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[zan]

You know...I have no idea why you guys lost the war in 74...With such organisation and gentlemanly behavior that Kifeas has portrayed here it will always be a mystery...

[insan]

Some further news now. The Association of ex EOKA fighters has come up with a gem. They now reckon that EOKA B had nothing to do with the coup against Makarios because "EOKA B had disbanded six moths earlier". These are the people who are accusing the Minister of distorting history.

It is a true fact that Eoka B' did not carry the coup, nor it had the means to have done so. The coup, in the form and fashion it was conceived, needed tanks and organized army units to attack the presidential palace and confront the presidential guard, which in 1974 was numbering to some 700-800 fully armed and reasonably trained policemen. The coup was executed by the 21 EMA (cavalry battalion) and selected members of the 3 commando battalions -31, 32 and 33 MK, all under the orders of the mainland Greek officer in charge of all commando units, Demetrios Mpompokis, and other mainland Greek officers seconded in Cyprus to serve in the National Guard. (Mpompokis is now a retired officer and a Chicken Farmer /producer somewhere in NE Greece.)

Of course, after the coup was executed, Makarios overthrown and Sampson "sworn" as "president," Eoka B' came out in the aid of the coupists in its role as "guardians" of the "revolution." However, the truth is they were not the ones that planned, decided or executed the coup, but the Junta in Greece and some of its officers seconded in Cyprus, in the NG. The Chief of the National Guard -who was also a Greek officer, was not part of the plot, and he was recalled in Athens on purpose, during the days before the coup, so that he would not have been present. It is a fact that most likely the Junta would not have attempted the coup, had it not counted on the internal support and aid it would have received from the Eoka B' and other anti-Makarios and pro-union elements of the GC society. Their existence and their active anti-Makarios stance and positions, encouraged the Greek Junta and made their decision more easy and plausible.

The truth therefore, lies in the middle. The coup and the overthrowing of Makarios were not executed by Eoka B,’ as such, but their mere existence and role encouraged and facilitated the decision taken by the junta.

Thx for the detailed info abt the coup and other events in correlation. It sounds sensible. I've never read such detailed, brief info abt the coup.

[Kifeas]

Thanks Insan! I always try my best to be as responsibly factual, accurate and objective as possible!

[Oracle]

Without prejudice to Kifeas, and at the risk of another silly comment from Bananiot, I would just like to state that Kifeas' assessment rings true with what I have heard about the coup (from the son of the horse's mouth).

The Greek junta instigated the coup on their own (+CIA), albeit knowing, they could have insider support from some pro-enosis GCs ... although Enosis was not on the cards, but a handover of Cyprus to America was, instead, the prize!.

[Kifeas]

Without prejudice to Kifeas, and at the risk of another silly comment from Bananiot, I would just like to state that Kifeas' assessment rings true with what I have heard about the coup (from the son of the horse's mouth).

The Greek junta instigated the coup on their own (+CIA), albeit knowing, they could have insider support from some pro-enosis GCs ... although Enosis was not on the cards, but a handover of Cyprus to America was, instead, the prize!.

Who is this "son of the horse's mouth" that you have heard it from?

[Kifeas]

You know...I have no idea why you guys lost the war in 74...With such organisation and gentlemanly behavior that Kifeas has portrayed here it will always be a mystery...

With "war in 74..." you probably mean the illegal invasion of Turkey against a country 100 times smaller, at a time this smaller country was tormented by internal fighting and disorganization of its security forces and society.

[Oracle]

Without prejudice to Kifeas, and at the risk of another silly comment from Bananiot, I would just like to state that Kifeas' assessment rings true with what I have heard about the coup (from the son of the horse's mouth).

The Greek junta instigated the coup on their own (+CIA), albeit knowing, they could have insider support from some pro-enosis GCs ... although Enosis was not on the cards, but a handover of Cyprus to America was, instead, the prize!.

Who is this "son of the horse's mouth" that you have heard it from?

"****" .... the Greek!

[Get Real!]

Another great response by the Education Minister yesterday. The new history books, he said, may even be critical of Makarios.

The day when Makarios and Grivas cease to be holy cows we can boast that democracy is beginning to take a grip in Cyprus.

They are clearly going to sack him.

So far the idiot has displayed a lot of arrogance and thankfully the guy will be isolated and banished into the political wilderness where he belongs.

Got a link where we can verify your post. Not that I don't believe you, but you do have a habit of telling some pretty big lies or manipulating the context.

Send my regards to your son - a fellow Apoelistas extremist. At least you have one member of the family with an IQ in excess of 80.

Let's leave forum member's family members out of it...

[Get Real!]

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You are the one apologising for the junta by making out they needed help from EOKA B.

Never seen a stupidest statement. Are you trying to get Kifeas interested in you again?

That's below the belt!

[insan]

You know...I have no idea why you guys lost the war in 74...With such organisation and gentlemanly behavior that Kifeas has portrayed here it will always be a mystery...

With "war in 74..." you probably mean the illegal invasion of Turkey against a country 100 times smaller, at a time this smaller country was tormented by internal fighting and disorganization of its security forces and society.

If the GC leadership, Greek leadership, official and unofficial pressure groups of Hellenes(refers all Greek descendant people) had accepted TC community as a politically equal state partner of Cyprus most probably Hellenes and Turks would become the strongest allies in mediterrenan region.