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[zan]

Glad you have a sense of humour this Monday morning. What infamous text are you talking about anyway? I specifically talked about the Organisation (which you seem to know nothing about) and members of which were responsible for taking sick, innocent TC's away from their hospital beds and execute them. Yiorgadjis was the leader and Papadopoulos the deputy of the Organisation which was armed by Makarios. Do you not feel any disgust about this?

Really?

You make a very big sweeping statement by claiming that Papadopoulos and Yiorgadjis were responsible for taking innocent sick TCs from their hospital beds and executing them. Such an event should be recording somewhere.

I hope you have the proof to back it up?

The infamous text I am talking about is the one that was allegedly authored by "Defkalion".

And no, I do not feel any disgust about the actions of Makarios, Pappadopoulos, or Yiorgadjis who were merely protecting Cypriot sovereignty from TMT separatists.

He certainly does have a sense of humor this morning...

Re Bafitis....You really need a new line of attack mate...Your tactics have been taught to you by an old master and you need to think outside the box.....Evolve..These old ways are just showing your level of propaganda is at its infancy...


You have been in charge of "Telling" the history of these people for a long time now....Do you have any reference as to where this information is going to come from or shall we wait for you to dismiss any and all forms of proof for being: To British...Too American....Too nationalistic a site....Too white a background...Too many words....Not the right words...


My brother inlaws village/district, of Kucuk Kaymacli, was cleared out by Sampson and Tpap......Any papers on that.....Only on the sacrificial lamb Sampson.....You think hat one of the most prevalent and aggressive people in he EOKA movement is going to allow any works about his exploits to even get near a poor demented fool like you...What you have is denial..What I have is an eye witness who was locked up in a concentration camp along with his family until his sister was nearly dead from starvation and disease...Another reason to be thankful to Dr. Kucuk for saving her life and that of many more destined for mass graves by the GC regime...

[Bananiot]

Try this too:

To this end, the former EOKA leaders founded paramilitary groups – the three main ones were headed by Polycarpos Georgadjis and Tassos Papadopoulos, the Interior and Labour ministers respectively; Vassos Lyssarides, Makarios’ physician; and Nikos Sampson, an unsavoury and fanatical nationalist thug. It is quite amazing that Georgadjis and Sampson are mentioned only twice and Lyssarides not at all. The person who orchestrated the tragedy of 1963-64 was Georgadjis. As Droushiotis has shown, Georgadjis believed that the quickest way to show that the Zurich-London accords were unworkable was to provoke the Turkish Cypriot extremists, which he knew were armed, to challenge the state. The inter-communal violence that gripped Cyprus from thereon has its roots in Georgadjis’ desire to dominate the island.

Full article at:
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 5&cat_id=9

Author: Andrekos Varnava, member of the History Department at the University of Melbourne

[Paphitis]

How convenient!

The organisation was set up to deal with TMT separtists.

Greek Cypriots attacked Kokkina for security and defensive purposes, as the TMT, the TCs and Turkey were smuggling weapons through the Kokkina Beachhead:

The First Cyprus Crisis

In the night from 20 to 21 December 1963, a car carrying weapons for Turkish Cypriots in the Omorfita, a district of Nicosia – where armed resistance was organized – was halted on a police roadblock. After a few minutes a large crowd, mainly consisting of Turkish Cypriots, assembled nearby and the situation heated up, resulting in exchange of fire in which one policeman and two Turks were killed. This mini-uprising of Turkish Cypriots ended by Christmas of the same year, but there more skirmishes followed, as since that time Turkey began systematically organising and arming students and men younger than 30 into small units, equipped with personal weapons, bazookas and mortars. Several loads of food and ammunition were shipped from Turkey to Cyprus during the following winter, mainly by small boats and by night, which were landing in the Kokkina area.

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_454.shtml

You also seem to forget about the August airstrikes against GCs around Kokkina and Polis when the TAF conducted napalm airstrikes against civilians.

So any action undertaken by Makarios, Papadopoulos, and Yiorgadjis was for the security and defence of the RoC. Any other sovereign nation would have done the same.

[Paphitis]

Try this too:

To this end, the former EOKA leaders founded paramilitary groups – the three main ones were headed by Polycarpos Georgadjis and Tassos Papadopoulos, the Interior and Labour ministers respectively; Vassos Lyssarides, Makarios’ physician; and Nikos Sampson, an unsavoury and fanatical nationalist thug. It is quite amazing that Georgadjis and Sampson are mentioned only twice and Lyssarides not at all. The person who orchestrated the tragedy of 1963-64 was Georgadjis. As Droushiotis has shown, Georgadjis believed that the quickest way to show that the Zurich-London accords were unworkable was to provoke the Turkish Cypriot extremists, which he knew were armed, to challenge the state. The inter-communal violence that gripped Cyprus from thereon has its roots in Georgadjis’ desire to dominate the island.

Full article at:
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 5&cat_id=9

Author: Andrekos Varnava, member of the History Department at the University of Melbourne

And here you can read some real facts from reliable sources:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

Sorry Bananiot, but the Cyprus Mail isn't even worth cutting into 4 inch squares.....

[zan]

How convenient!

The organisation was set up to deal with TMT separtists.

Greek Cypriots attacked Kokkina for security and defensive purposes, as the TMT, the TCs and Turkey were smuggling weapons through the Kokkina Beachhead:

The First Cyprus Crisis

In the night from 20 to 21 December 1963, a car carrying weapons for Turkish Cypriots in the Omorfita, a district of Nicosia – where armed resistance was organized – was halted on a police roadblock. After a few minutes a large crowd, mainly consisting of Turkish Cypriots, assembled nearby and the situation heated up, resulting in exchange of fire in which one policeman and two Turks were killed. This mini-uprising of Turkish Cypriots ended by Christmas of the same year, but there more skirmishes followed, as since that time Turkey began systematically organising and arming students and men younger than 30 into small units, equipped with personal weapons, bazookas and mortars. Several loads of food and ammunition were shipped from Turkey to Cyprus during the following winter, mainly by small boats and by night, which were landing in the Kokkina area.

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_454.shtml

You also seem to forget about the August airstrikes against GCs around Kokkina and Polis when the TAF conducted napalm airstrikes against civilians.

So any action undertaken by Makarios, Papadopoulos, and Yiorgadjis was for the security and defence of the RoC. Any other sovereign nation would have done the same.

And the Nazis killed milliions of jews because they were taking away the jobs of the German people....FFS You funny guy Mr. Bafidis...

[Bananiot]

Really, are the Swedes any more reliable?

Perhaps you can try this:

The U.N. in Cyprus, Swedish peace-keeping operations, 1964 - 1993, by Gustav Welin and Christer Eculand.
Warning: you may not like what you will read.

[Paphitis]

Zan Wrote:

My brother inlaws village/district, of Kucuk Kaymacli, was cleared out by Sampson and Tpap......Any papers on that.....Only on the sacrificial lamb Sampson.....You think hat one of the most prevalent and aggressive people in he EOKA movement is going to allow any works about his exploits to even get near a poor demented fool like you...What you have is denial..What I have is an eye witness who was locked up in a concentration camp along with his family until his sister was nearly dead from starvation and disease...Another reason to be thankful to Dr. Kucuk for saving her life and that of many more destined for mass graves by the GC regime...

Tassos Papadopoulos was only involved in EOKA's political wing between 55-59. He was never a combatant.

By 1963 he was a Government Minister in the Makarios Presidency. He was not involved in any intercommunal violence other than the fact that he, along with Makarios, were trying to mobilise the CNG to defend Cypriot Sovereignty from TMT separatists, TAF napalm bombardments and also prevent Turkish Arms smuggling through Kokkina.

[Paphitis]

Really, are the Swedes any more reliable?

Perhaps you can try this:

The U.N. in Cyprus, Swedish peace-keeping operations, 1964 - 1993, by Gustav Welin and Christer Eculand.
Warning: you may not like what you will read.

Your link doesn't work...

[zan]

Zan Wrote:

My brother inlaws village/district, of Kucuk Kaymacli, was cleared out by Sampson and Tpap......Any papers on that.....Only on the sacrificial lamb Sampson.....You think hat one of the most prevalent and aggressive people in he EOKA movement is going to allow any works about his exploits to even get near a poor demented fool like you...What you have is denial..What I have is an eye witness who was locked up in a concentration camp along with his family until his sister was nearly dead from starvation and disease...Another reason to be thankful to Dr. Kucuk for saving her life and that of many more destined for mass graves by the GC regime...

Tassos Papadopoulos was only involved in EOKA's political wing between 55-59. He was never a combatant.

By 1963 he was a Government Minister in the Makarios Presidency. He was not involved in any intercommunal violence other than the fact that he, along with Makarios, were trying to mobilise the CNG to defend Cypriot Sovereignty from TMT separatists, TAF napalm bombardments and also prevent Turkish Arms smuggling through Kokkina.

Can we see a copy of his diary that you have had a chance to see!!

[Bananiot]

Books do not have links ...