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[DT.]

DT,
I don't know whether you are being selfish or not. Your conscience is the judge of that.

For myself I really don't care where anyone's father or mother came from, whether they claim that they've a heritage on the island for 3,000 years or 3 days, whether they speak Greek, Turkish, English or Tamil. The principles of equality and human rights are good enough for me. I can't see how one can appeal to human rights with one breath and then in the next breath say that, actually the guy who has a Turkish parent, or who has immigrated from Sri Lanka, or who retired to Cyprus from Koln has lesser human rights than a guy who claims an unbroken family line to some Lusignan serf. (Incidentally an argument I'd have regarding any country : no one is illegal).

SO you are also in favour of one unitary state with one man one vote?

[CBBB]

DT,
I don't know whether you are being selfish or not. Your conscience is the judge of that.

For myself I really don't care where anyone's father or mother came from, whether they claim that they've a heritage on the island for 3,000 years or 3 days, whether they speak Greek, Turkish, English or Tamil. The principles of equality and human rights are good enough for me. I can't see how one can appeal to human rights with one breath and then in the next breath say that, actually the guy who has a Turkish parent, or who has immigrated from Sri Lanka, or who retired to Cyprus from Koln has lesser human rights than a guy who claims an unbroken family line to some Lusignan serf. (Incidentally an argument I'd have regarding any country : no one is illegal).

That appears to be what he said.

SO you are also in favour of one unitary state with one man one vote?

[CopperLine]

Yes, though it would be one person one vote

[MrH]

Sotos,

You must be either very bored, or incredibly stupid and have no understanding of OUR TC history on the island of Cyprus.

Besides our history extending on the island from 1571, do not forget the 1960 Cyprus Agreement - PARTNERSHIP STATE.

That's 50/50. Regardless of Population size.

The TRNC is a Compromise, where we've reduced our Constitutional rights by 13% from our 50% Partnership on the 1960 agreement.

[Tony-4497]

Besides our history extending on the island from 1571, do not forget the 1960 Cyprus Agreement - PARTNERSHIP STATE.

That's 50/50. Regardless of Population size.

The TRNC is a Compromise, where we've reduced our Constitutional rights by 13% from our 50% Partnership on the 1960 agreement.

So presumably you would be quite happy to accept the 1960 agreements as a solution, would you?

[paliometoxo]

Zan, Viewpoint and some others convinced me that Turks are too different from us and that we can not live together but we should be separate. This is logical because all Turks that are in Cyprus today are Settlers from Turkish invasions. They are here because of Turkish expansionism not because Cyprus was the right place for them to be! Also these foreign Turks do not love Cyprus at all. They only care to rule it like invaders. Here is what Viewpoint said.

Its simple the south being 67% is GC dominated and therefore not my country. Its like visiting Spain Italy of the UK, another country.

Some of these Turkish Settlers lived for a couple of centuries in Cyprus but they never felt it as their own country. Now that they are not living in south Cyprus for 35 years it is foreign country for them already!!! Compare this with how much we love Cyprus because it is our own island. We never forgot north Cyprus because it is occupied illegally and temporarily by Turks! So I have the perfect solution that will solve the Cyprus problem: Take all the Turks back to Turkey. The problem was created by bringing Turks to Cyprus and it will be solved by taking them back where they belong. This is a win-win solution. We will get our land that we so much love back and we will get human rights and democracy. The Turkish Settlers will go back to Turkey and they will be among other Turks just like them and they will feel right at home. Not like Cyprus that they are so unfitting and problematic. There they will have all the protection of the Turkish army they want and they will also not be a minority because almost everybody there is a Turk! So everything they wanted will be true! The only thing is that they will have to be moved a few kilometers but I don't think that is a problem for them because they never understood how it could be a problem for us! And the reason they never understood is that they don't love Cyprus as we do! Move them to Turkey today and in a few decades the whole of Cyprus will be a foreign country to them like south is now!! Maybe Turkey should even give them a couple of villages to pretend that it is their own country or something so Talat and the other muppets can keep their titles! This way everybody should be happy in the end

perfect solution the turks are happy with their large army to protect them and everything is turkish as they wish to turn north cyprus into a little turkey. saves the hassle of them trying and failing

[Viewpoint]

Zan, Viewpoint and some others convinced me that Turks are too different from us and that we can not live together but we should be separate. This is logical because all Turks that are in Cyprus today are Settlers from Turkish invasions. They are here because of Turkish expansionism not because Cyprus was the right place for them to be! Also these foreign Turks do not love Cyprus at all. They only care to rule it like invaders. Here is what Viewpoint said.

Its simple the south being 67% is GC dominated and therefore not my country. Its like visiting Spain Italy of the UK, another country.

Some of these Turkish Settlers lived for a couple of centuries in Cyprus but they never felt it as their own country. Now that they are not living in south Cyprus for 35 years it is foreign country for them already!!! Compare this with how much we love Cyprus because it is our own island. We never forgot north Cyprus because it is occupied illegally and temporarily by Turks! So I have the perfect solution that will solve the Cyprus problem: Take all the Turks back to Turkey. The problem was created by bringing Turks to Cyprus and it will be solved by taking them back where they belong. This is a win-win solution. We will get our land that we so much love back and we will get human rights and democracy. The Turkish Settlers will go back to Turkey and they will be among other Turks just like them and they will feel right at home. Not like Cyprus that they are so unfitting and problematic. There they will have all the protection of the Turkish army they want and they will also not be a minority because almost everybody there is a Turk! So everything they wanted will be true! The only thing is that they will have to be moved a few kilometers but I don't think that is a problem for them because they never understood how it could be a problem for us! And the reason they never understood is that they don't love Cyprus as we do! Move them to Turkey today and in a few decades the whole of Cyprus will be a foreign country to them like south is now!! Maybe Turkey should even give them a couple of villages to pretend that it is their own country or something so Talat and the other muppets can keep their titles! This way everybody should be happy in the end

perfect solution the turks are happy with their large army to protect them and everything is turkish as they wish to turn north cyprus into a little turkey. saves the hassle of them trying and failing

Dream on we love our country just as much even more than you as we have endured so much at the hands of greedy GCs like yourself.

[zan]

Zan, Viewpoint and some others convinced me that Turks are too different from us and that we can not live together but we should be separate. This is logical because all Turks that are in Cyprus today are Settlers from Turkish invasions. They are here because of Turkish expansionism not because Cyprus was the right place for them to be! Also these foreign Turks do not love Cyprus at all. They only care to rule it like invaders. Here is what Viewpoint said.

Its simple the south being 67% is GC dominated and therefore not my country. Its like visiting Spain Italy of the UK, another country.

Some of these Turkish Settlers lived for a couple of centuries in Cyprus but they never felt it as their own country. Now that they are not living in south Cyprus for 35 years it is foreign country for them already!!! Compare this with how much we love Cyprus because it is our own island. We never forgot north Cyprus because it is occupied illegally and temporarily by Turks! So I have the perfect solution that will solve the Cyprus problem: Take all the Turks back to Turkey. The problem was created by bringing Turks to Cyprus and it will be solved by taking them back where they belong. This is a win-win solution. We will get our land that we so much love back and we will get human rights and democracy. The Turkish Settlers will go back to Turkey and they will be among other Turks just like them and they will feel right at home. Not like Cyprus that they are so unfitting and problematic. There they will have all the protection of the Turkish army they want and they will also not be a minority because almost everybody there is a Turk! So everything they wanted will be true! The only thing is that they will have to be moved a few kilometers but I don't think that is a problem for them because they never understood how it could be a problem for us! And the reason they never understood is that they don't love Cyprus as we do! Move them to Turkey today and in a few decades the whole of Cyprus will be a foreign country to them like south is now!! Maybe Turkey should even give them a couple of villages to pretend that it is their own country or something so Talat and the other muppets can keep their titles! This way everybody should be happy in the end

perfect solution the turks are happy with their large army to protect them and everything is turkish as they wish to turn north cyprus into a little turkey. saves the hassle of them trying and failing

You two are waaaaaay toooooo late in that one my friends...Me and my family were chased off the island over 40 years ago.......I am now returning to claim what is mine not have you idiots try to sell it back to me.....The last time you tried to get rid of my people you lost a big chunk of Cyprus.......

[Oracle]

DT,
I don't know whether you are being selfish or not. Your conscience is the judge of that.

For myself I really don't care where anyone's father or mother came from, whether they claim that they've a heritage on the island for 3,000 years or 3 days, whether they speak Greek, Turkish, English or Tamil. The principles of equality and human rights are good enough for me. I can't see how one can appeal to human rights with one breath and then in the next breath say that, actually the guy who has a Turkish parent, or who has immigrated from Sri Lanka, or who retired to Cyprus from Koln has lesser human rights than a guy who claims an unbroken family line to some Lusignan serf. (Incidentally an argument I'd have regarding any country : no one is illegal).

Next time you return home from work to find a squatter has moved into your house .... just remember, they are not illegal according to you, and you should just go and sleep in the street. (Extrapolate to illegal immigrants or Settlers - their "foreignness" is irrelevant, their illegal behaviour is not!)

(If you don't "own" property, fine, just respect the wishes of those who do!)

However, the fact that you are attempting to mislead on the respect of Human Rights on the one hand, with the violation of others' Human Rights by illegal conduct against them, suggests you are, once again, trying to justify the act of colonisation.

[miltiades]

DT,
I don't know whether you are being selfish or not. Your conscience is the judge of that.

For myself I really don't care where anyone's father or mother came from, whether they claim that they've a heritage on the island for 3,000 years or 3 days, whether they speak Greek, Turkish, English or Tamil. The principles of equality and human rights are good enough for me. I can't see how one can appeal to human rights with one breath and then in the next breath say that, actually the guy who has a Turkish parent, or who has immigrated from Sri Lanka, or who retired to Cyprus from Koln has lesser human rights than a guy who claims an unbroken family line to some Lusignan serf. (Incidentally an argument I'd have regarding any country : no one is illegal).

Next time you return home from work to find a squatter has moved into your house .... just remember, they are not illegal according to you, and you should just go and sleep in the street. (Extrapolate to illegal immigrants or Settlers - their "foreignness" is irrelevant, their illegal behaviour is not!)

(If you don't "own" property, fine, just respect the wishes of those who do!)

However, the fact that you are attempting to mislead on the respect of Human Rights on the one hand, with the violation of others' Human Rights by illegal conduct against them, suggests you are, once again, trying to justify the act of colonisation.

Sometime back this guy was equating British people moving to other parts of the world to the Cuban boat people .This is the mentality of of Copperbrain !!
I bet this guy has a thin beard , weighs no more than 65 kg likes choc biscuits , into computers and still lives with mum. !!!