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[DT.]

Still not able to see eye to eye, the chasm is to wide to bridge neither side will budge so you can kiss any solution goodbye.

According to you and the rest of the divisionists , those that want permanent partition.The vast majority , as shown by the last referendum , want a unified Cyprus .

From last referendum ,I ungerstood that majority of the GC's does not want to live with us my dear Miltiades .

I am afraid, That is what majority of the peoples thinks in the streets my dear friend . I don't know what will happen in next one .

You have learned Turkey's propaganda well Halil. You yourself agreed with me on the reasons the GC's said no to AP. Even a TC friend of our said at the time that had he been a GC he would never had voted for the plan. You've now taken the party line that GC's did not want to live with the TC's to make an impression?

It took a lot especially for us from Morphou to say NO to our homes being given back. Think for a second how bad a plan for us it was.

[zan]

Still not able to see eye to eye, the chasm is to wide to bridge neither side will budge so you can kiss any solution goodbye.

According to you and the rest of the divisionists , those that want permanent partition.The vast majority , as shown by the last referendum , want a unified Cyprus .

From last referendum ,I ungerstood that majority of the GC's does not want to live with us my dear Miltiades .

I am afraid, That is what majority of the peoples thinks in the streets my dear friend . I don't know what will happen in next one .

You have learned Turkey's propaganda well Halil. You yourself agreed with me on the reasons the GC's said no to AP. Even a TC friend of our said at the time that had he been a GC he would never had voted for the plan. You've now taken the party line that GC's did not want to live with the TC's to make an impression?

It took a lot especially for us from Morphou to say NO to our homes being given back. Think for a second how bad a plan for us it was.

An all or nothing policy pursued by Tpap and you guys thought that he would deliver the ALL......You got duped mate.

[DT.]

Still not able to see eye to eye, the chasm is to wide to bridge neither side will budge so you can kiss any solution goodbye.

According to you and the rest of the divisionists , those that want permanent partition.The vast majority , as shown by the last referendum , want a unified Cyprus .

From last referendum ,I ungerstood that majority of the GC's does not want to live with us my dear Miltiades .

I am afraid, That is what majority of the peoples thinks in the streets my dear friend . I don't know what will happen in next one .

You have learned Turkey's propaganda well Halil. You yourself agreed with me on the reasons the GC's said no to AP. Even a TC friend of our said at the time that had he been a GC he would never had voted for the plan. You've now taken the party line that GC's did not want to live with the TC's to make an impression?

It took a lot especially for us from Morphou to say NO to our homes being given back. Think for a second how bad a plan for us it was.

An all or nothing policy pursued by Tpap and you guys thought that he would deliver the ALL......You got duped mate.

Turkey gave 11 points to the UN (not the TC's, not the GC's but Turkey) and all 11 were incoorporated into the plan. These points were for Turkey's own self interest yet took priority over any points that lame duck talat could have included.

At least we negotiated for Cyprus and not for Greece.


You tell me Zan....how would a continental shelf gifted to Turkey have benefited our island?

[zan]

Still not able to see eye to eye, the chasm is to wide to bridge neither side will budge so you can kiss any solution goodbye.

According to you and the rest of the divisionists , those that want permanent partition.The vast majority , as shown by the last referendum , want a unified Cyprus .

From last referendum ,I ungerstood that majority of the GC's does not want to live with us my dear Miltiades .

I am afraid, That is what majority of the peoples thinks in the streets my dear friend . I don't know what will happen in next one .

You have learned Turkey's propaganda well Halil. You yourself agreed with me on the reasons the GC's said no to AP. Even a TC friend of our said at the time that had he been a GC he would never had voted for the plan. You've now taken the party line that GC's did not want to live with the TC's to make an impression?

It took a lot especially for us from Morphou to say NO to our homes being given back. Think for a second how bad a plan for us it was.

An all or nothing policy pursued by Tpap and you guys thought that he would deliver the ALL......You got duped mate.

Turkey gave 11 points to the UN (not the TC's, not the GC's but Turkey) and all 11 were incoorporated into the plan. These points were for Turkey's own self interest yet took priority over any points that lame duck talat could have included.

At least we negotiated for Cyprus and not for Greece.


You tell me Zan....how would a continental shelf gifted to Turkey have benefited our island?

I am sure that Tpaps visits to Greece were just for the coffee...


I know that Makarios set the trend hat TCs did not matter in any decisions that he took for Cyprus but to expect the AP to be scrapped just because we had some things that we wanted in the plain is just pig headedness on your behalf...

As I have said many times.....Why didn't Tpap make more of an issue to the UN but decide to trick them with the OXI vote campaign......All or nothing mate....That is what you have gone for.

[DT.]

Still not able to see eye to eye, the chasm is to wide to bridge neither side will budge so you can kiss any solution goodbye.

According to you and the rest of the divisionists , those that want permanent partition.The vast majority , as shown by the last referendum , want a unified Cyprus .

From last referendum ,I ungerstood that majority of the GC's does not want to live with us my dear Miltiades .

I am afraid, That is what majority of the peoples thinks in the streets my dear friend . I don't know what will happen in next one .

You have learned Turkey's propaganda well Halil. You yourself agreed with me on the reasons the GC's said no to AP. Even a TC friend of our said at the time that had he been a GC he would never had voted for the plan. You've now taken the party line that GC's did not want to live with the TC's to make an impression?

It took a lot especially for us from Morphou to say NO to our homes being given back. Think for a second how bad a plan for us it was.

An all or nothing policy pursued by Tpap and you guys thought that he would deliver the ALL......You got duped mate.

Turkey gave 11 points to the UN (not the TC's, not the GC's but Turkey) and all 11 were incoorporated into the plan. These points were for Turkey's own self interest yet took priority over any points that lame duck talat could have included.

At least we negotiated for Cyprus and not for Greece.


You tell me Zan....how would a continental shelf gifted to Turkey have benefited our island?

[zan]

Still not able to see eye to eye, the chasm is to wide to bridge neither side will budge so you can kiss any solution goodbye.

According to you and the rest of the divisionists , those that want permanent partition.The vast majority , as shown by the last referendum , want a unified Cyprus .

From last referendum ,I ungerstood that majority of the GC's does not want to live with us my dear Miltiades .

I am afraid, That is what majority of the peoples thinks in the streets my dear friend . I don't know what will happen in next one .

You have learned Turkey's propaganda well Halil. You yourself agreed with me on the reasons the GC's said no to AP. Even a TC friend of our said at the time that had he been a GC he would never had voted for the plan. You've now taken the party line that GC's did not want to live with the TC's to make an impression?

It took a lot especially for us from Morphou to say NO to our homes being given back. Think for a second how bad a plan for us it was.

An all or nothing policy pursued by Tpap and you guys thought that he would deliver the ALL......You got duped mate.

Turkey gave 11 points to the UN (not the TC's, not the GC's but Turkey) and all 11 were incoorporated into the plan. These points were for Turkey's own self interest yet took priority over any points that lame duck talat could have included.

At least we negotiated for Cyprus and not for Greece.


You tell me Zan....how would a continental shelf gifted to Turkey have benefited our island?

It would have got Turkey off the island...Isn't that your biggest bugbear???

[DT.]

Still not able to see eye to eye, the chasm is to wide to bridge neither side will budge so you can kiss any solution goodbye.

According to you and the rest of the divisionists , those that want permanent partition.The vast majority , as shown by the last referendum , want a unified Cyprus .

From last referendum ,I ungerstood that majority of the GC's does not want to live with us my dear Miltiades .

I am afraid, That is what majority of the peoples thinks in the streets my dear friend . I don't know what will happen in next one .

You have learned Turkey's propaganda well Halil. You yourself agreed with me on the reasons the GC's said no to AP. Even a TC friend of our said at the time that had he been a GC he would never had voted for the plan. You've now taken the party line that GC's did not want to live with the TC's to make an impression?

It took a lot especially for us from Morphou to say NO to our homes being given back. Think for a second how bad a plan for us it was.

An all or nothing policy pursued by Tpap and you guys thought that he would deliver the ALL......You got duped mate.

Turkey gave 11 points to the UN (not the TC's, not the GC's but Turkey) and all 11 were incoorporated into the plan. These points were for Turkey's own self interest yet took priority over any points that lame duck talat could have included.

At least we negotiated for Cyprus and not for Greece.


You tell me Zan....how would a continental shelf gifted to Turkey have benefited our island?

It would have got Turkey off the island...Isn't that your biggest bugbear???

By giving Turkey permanent direct financial interests you think would have got it off the island?????

[zan]

Still not able to see eye to eye, the chasm is to wide to bridge neither side will budge so you can kiss any solution goodbye.

According to you and the rest of the divisionists , those that want permanent partition.The vast majority , as shown by the last referendum , want a unified Cyprus .

From last referendum ,I ungerstood that majority of the GC's does not want to live with us my dear Miltiades .

I am afraid, That is what majority of the peoples thinks in the streets my dear friend . I don't know what will happen in next one .

You have learned Turkey's propaganda well Halil. You yourself agreed with me on the reasons the GC's said no to AP. Even a TC friend of our said at the time that had he been a GC he would never had voted for the plan. You've now taken the party line that GC's did not want to live with the TC's to make an impression?

It took a lot especially for us from Morphou to say NO to our homes being given back. Think for a second how bad a plan for us it was.

An all or nothing policy pursued by Tpap and you guys thought that he would deliver the ALL......You got duped mate.

Turkey gave 11 points to the UN (not the TC's, not the GC's but Turkey) and all 11 were incoorporated into the plan. These points were for Turkey's own self interest yet took priority over any points that lame duck talat could have included.

At least we negotiated for Cyprus and not for Greece.


You tell me Zan....how would a continental shelf gifted to Turkey have benefited our island?

It would have got Turkey off the island...Isn't that your biggest bugbear???

By giving Turkey permanent direct financial interests you think would have got it off the island?????

As I said DT...All or nothing.....Forget that there are TCs on the island..Forget Turkeys interests.....You have secured Greeces interests and then you went for the rest of the ALL.......You can't have the ALL DT.....Learn that and some relations will work better!!!

[DT.]

ANd whats wrong with the islands wealth belonging JUST to the Cypriots?

How am I being selfish there?

[CopperLine]

DT,
I don't know whether you are being selfish or not. Your conscience is the judge of that.

For myself I really don't care where anyone's father or mother came from, whether they claim that they've a heritage on the island for 3,000 years or 3 days, whether they speak Greek, Turkish, English or Tamil. The principles of equality and human rights are good enough for me. I can't see how one can appeal to human rights with one breath and then in the next breath say that, actually the guy who has a Turkish parent, or who has immigrated from Sri Lanka, or who retired to Cyprus from Koln has lesser human rights than a guy who claims an unbroken family line to some Lusignan serf. (Incidentally an argument I'd have regarding any country : no one is illegal).