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TC illegal again

Postby Turks » Fri May 27, 2005 8:24 pm

No Turk can contribute to this forum with such attitude see below

From: Admin
To: Turks
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:50 pm
Subject: Re: avatar
Hello Turks,

TRNC Flag is an illegal flag and the promotion of anything illegal is not allowed in this forum.

You can use the Turkish flag if you want. You can find it in the one of the avatars galleries.

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Postby cannedmoose » Fri May 27, 2005 9:54 pm

Although I see where admin is coming from, I do think this level of censorship is out of order and therefore I have sympathy with Turks' position. The likelihood is that the current flag of the TRNC could become a constituent state flag in any reunified future Cyprus. I also fail to see why the TRNC flag could be considered as illegal... there is no such thing as an illegal flag... just the state itself is illegal.

I think the admin has done an admirable job in getting rid of the more inflammatory elements such as signatures portraying the murder of TC or GC and provocative racist statements, but I think they've dropped the ball on this one... After all, GCs see the TRNC flag staring at them every day from Pendedactylos... how annoying can it really be as an avatar?

Strictly speaking, you could draw a line from this and say that any advocation of the TRNC isn't allowed since that would be promoting an illegal state. End of forum... Please rethink this decision admin.
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Postby Murtaza » Fri May 27, 2005 10:14 pm

cannedmoose wrote:Although I see where admin is coming from, I do think this level of censorship is out of order and therefore I have sympathy with Turks' position. The likelihood is that the current flag of the TRNC could become a constituent state flag in any reunified future Cyprus. I also fail to see why the TRNC flag could be considered as illegal... there is no such thing as an illegal flag... just the state itself is illegal.

I think the admin has done an admirable job in getting rid of the more inflammatory elements such as signatures portraying the murder of TC or GC and provocative racist statements, but I think they've dropped the ball on this one... After all, GCs see the TRNC flag staring at them every day from Pendedactylos... how annoying can it really be as an avatar?

Strictly speaking, you could draw a line from this and say that any advocation of the TRNC isn't allowed since that would be promoting an illegal state. End of forum... Please rethink this decision admin.



I think Admins of this posts should not support a politic side.
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Postby Piratis » Fri May 27, 2005 10:31 pm

I think Admins of this posts should not support a politic side.


How about the laws? You think they should not support them either?

Maybe we should start posting warez and child pornography here also because some people think such things are ok?
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Postby Murtaza » Fri May 27, 2005 10:35 pm

Piratis wrote:
I think Admins of this posts should not support a politic side.


How about the laws? You think they should not support them either?

Maybe we should start posting warez and child pornography here also because some people think such things are ok?


Piratis Flag is illegal for Greeks. It is legal for Turk.
And If this from is owned both by Turks and Greeks.
We cant call it illegal complately.
I am not agains law. But this is not law, this is politic.
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Postby Piratis » Fri May 27, 2005 10:40 pm

Piratis Flag is illegal for Greeks. It is legal for Turk.


What is illegal is not a matter of opinion. If it was like that nothing would be illegal.
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Postby Murtaza » Fri May 27, 2005 10:43 pm

Piratis wrote:
Piratis Flag is illegal for Greeks. It is legal for Turk.


What is illegal is not a matter of opinion. If it was like that nothing would be illegal.


Pirates this is complately politic.
If admin dont let any Flag, It becomes law.
If he just dont let TRNC flag, Because he thing it is illegal(If admin is turk, It would be legal), It is complately politic.
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Postby erolz » Fri May 27, 2005 10:48 pm

cannedmoose wrote:I think the admin has done an admirable job in getting rid of the more inflammatory elements such as signatures portraying the murder of TC or GC and provocative racist statements, but I think they've dropped the ball on this one... After all, GCs see the TRNC flag staring at them every day from Pendedactylos... how annoying can it really be as an avatar?


I tend to personaly agree that on this specific issue the admin has made a bad call. I also agree that in general he has done an admirable job of moderating what has to be one of the most difficult moderating roles you could imagine. Moderation even on non contentious sites is a thankless and difficult job that no will ever get 100% right (in the view of all the posters). Thus I think we should all (Turks, Piratis, myself and everyone else) keep things in this context. IE one 'bad call' does not a bad moderator or bad or biased site make. I stress this because I know how difficult moderation can be and think we should show our support for how the site has been moderated to date in the most general terms and not allow the rare occasion where we think a bad call has been made be blown out of proportion.

cannedmoose wrote:Strictly speaking, you could draw a line from this and say that any advocation of the TRNC isn't allowed since that would be promoting an illegal state. End of forum... Please rethink this decision admin.


but do you think there is ANY chance that the moderator would extend to this kind of behaviour based on his actions to date. I can not say I do.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Fri May 27, 2005 10:52 pm

The Trnc flag represends the pseudo therefore it is illegal. The pseudo itself is illegal because 85% of its land is stolen.Congratulations admin. 8)
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Postby Piratis » Fri May 27, 2005 10:53 pm

What you think and what you believe is one thing. What is legal and what is illegal is a totally different thing.

You can believe whatever you want, but "TRNC" is illegal and this is a fact.
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