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Postby MicAtCyp » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:58 pm

By the way who gave me the link of the www.ottomans.org? I wonder whether people in here read the links before advicing others to do so.
All I could see in there is that during that 600 year Ottoman period there were a handful of scholars, most of which were simply compiling books based on already existing knowledge. Here are some extracts:

wrote: Mehmed the Conqueror patronized the Islamic
scholars and at the same time he ordered the Greek scholar from
Trabzon Georgios Amirutzes and his son to translate the Geography
book of Ptolemy
into Arabic and to draw a world map


I wonder what would happen to the guy if he did not obey the order.

wrote: No doubt the most notable scientist of the
Conqueror's period is Ali Kuώηu, a representative of the Samarkand
tradition. The total number of his works on mathematics and
astronomy is twelve. One of them is his commentary on the Zij-i Uluπ
Bey in Persian. His two works in persian, namely, Risala fi'l-Hay'a
(Treatise on Astronomy) and Risala Fi'l-Hisab (Treatise on
Arithmetic) were taught in the Ottoman medreses


Hmm another compiling(?) and comentary work?

wrote: Another noteworthy
scholar of the Bayezid II period (1481-1512) was Molla Lϋtfi. He
wrote a treatise about the classification of sciences titled
Mawdu'at-Ulum (Subjects of the Sciences) in Arabic and compiled a
book on geometry titled Tad'if al-Madhbah (Duplication of Cube)
which was partly translated from Greek.


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wrote: Musa b. Hamun (d. 1554), one of
the famous Jewish physicians from Andalusian descent, was appointed
as Sultan Sόleymβn's physician and wrote the first Turkish and one
of the earliest independent works on dentistry which is based on
Greek, Islamic, and Uighur Turkish medical sources
and in particular
Sabuncuoπlu Ceerefeddin's works (Terzioπlu, 1977)


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Who complained that the Turks (meaning to say "Ottomans") were not good for anything other than copy-paste? Murtaza was it you?
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:13 pm

Mr MitAtCyp

I do not believe that the gentlemen you mentioned "Copied and Pasted",
in the sense you mean.

They all seem to have been well educated and did what Professors do today.

That is, they took the available knowledge and added tbeir own thoughts and developed the ideas into new knowledge.

I must admit I am only familiar with some of the work of Moses Maimonides, a Jew expelled from Spain and welcomed into the Ottoman Empire.( The last gentleman you mention).

In his own right he was an Astronomer, a Physicist, a Doctor of Medicine and a leading Philosopher in Judaic and Talmudic theory.

He was able to live in peace and develop knowledge in the Ottoman Empire.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:17 pm

You do have a point Sir Tony. :wink:

Anyway I think this discussion has gone too far. On a side note I would like to provoke Erol a little bit:

Erol my friend any comments on the originator of this thread.Nobody other than me was so polite with him telling him an early goodbye :wink:
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Postby erolz » Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:41 pm

MicAtCyp wrote:On a side note I would like to provoke Erol a little bit:


Whatever lights your fire :)

MicAtCyp wrote:Erol my friend any comments on the originator of this thread.Nobody other than me was so polite with him telling him an early goodbye :wink:


I try (not always sucsessfuly) my best not to comment on posters but on their posts instead - a good rule of thumb for forums in general.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:59 pm

Erol wrote: I try (not always sucsessfuly) my best not to comment on posters but on their posts instead - a good rule of thumb for forums in general.


Don't forget your 50% "cold" British blood Erol. Pure Cypriots like me cannot live without fuss...
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