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Postby Viewpoint » Sun May 29, 2005 5:37 pm

Alexandros Lordos
I am just a Greek


always thought you were a Greek Cypriot.

The arguements about the past just seem to going around in circles and becoming very degrading for both Turks and Greeks. Nothing is being achieved and everyone is way off the topic.
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Postby garbitsch » Sun May 29, 2005 5:55 pm

Alex, can you show me one source that the Blue mosque was built with the taxes given by Greeks? No other subjects (including Muslims) did not contribute to its construction?? Besides I do not see much similarities between two mosques (blue mosque + hagia sophia mosque)... So blue mosque is not a "perfect" copy of hagia sopia. Just because you are Greek, this should not bar you from thinking objectively :wink:
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Postby Murtaza » Sun May 29, 2005 6:06 pm

garbitsch wrote:Alex, can you show me one source that the Blue mosque was built with the taxes given by Greeks? No other subjects (including Muslims) did not contribute to its construction?? Besides I do not see much similarities between two mosques (blue mosque + hagia sophia mosque)... So blue mosque is not a "perfect" copy of hagia sopia. Just because you are Greek, this should not bar you from thinking objectively :wink:


In fact what I know about blue Mosque is that.
Blue mosque is built for showing Turks can do better architect than Greeks:)
And I remember a letter wroten by Architect, which compare two building.

By the way, I think If Alex, you approach topic with this way, It would be beneficial for us too. You can criticize our culture.
But I dont like to hear somepeople despising our culture, without knowledge.

And yes you know little think about Turkish History :wink:
In fact half ot the Turkish history full with the war Turks agains Turks.
Half of The Ottoman(made at east) wars are against other Turkish Countries.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Sun May 29, 2005 6:12 pm

Murtaza wrote: Or Taj Mahal?
Blue Mosque?
So It looks like you are the one dont know.


Since you seem to know so many thousands of examples please:

Can you tell us what’s so special about the blue mosque? The fact that it was built 1069 years after Ayia Sophia was built? The fact that it has no Architectural originality? The fact that out of jelousy was built next to Ayia Sophia? The fact that it copied all the architecture of Ayia Sophia that was built 1069 years before? The fact that it has 6 minarets instead of the 4 "palloukia" you stuck on Ayia Sophia? Or the fact that is is a living space of worship compared to Ayia Sophia whose glory you turned into a shit?

As for Taj Mahal are you referring to the building in INDIA built by the Mongol Emperor or what? I thought you said the Ottomans were not Mongols.
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Postby cannedmoose » Sun May 29, 2005 6:17 pm

Think you mean the Mughal's MicAtCyp...
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Postby garbitsch » Sun May 29, 2005 6:28 pm

The Sultan Ahmed Mosque (in Turkish Sultanahmet Camii, in English commonly called the Blue Mosque) is a mosque in Istanbul, the largest city in Turkey and the capital of the Ottoman Empire from 1453 to 1923. It is regarded as one of the greatest masterpieces of Islamic architecture.
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Postby garbitsch » Sun May 29, 2005 6:30 pm

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Postby Murtaza » Sun May 29, 2005 6:36 pm

MicAtCyp wrote:
Murtaza wrote: Or Taj Mahal?
Blue Mosque?
So It looks like you are the one dont know.


Since you seem to know so many thousands of examples please:

Can you tell us what’s so special about the blue mosque? The fact that it was built 1069 years after Ayia Sophia was built? The fact that it has no Architectural originality? The fact that out of jelousy was built next to Ayia Sophia? The fact that it copied all the architecture of Ayia Sophia that was built 1069 years before? The fact that it has 6 minarets instead of the 4 "palloukia" you stuck on Ayia Sophia? Or the fact that is is a living space of worship compared to Ayia Sophia whose glory you turned into a shit?

As for Taj Mahal are you referring to the building in INDIA built by the Mongol Emperor or what? I thought you said the Ottomans were not Mongols.


"The Sultanahmet mosque, known as the Blue Mosque, is the central element of the complex built by Ahmed I (1603-1617) and was completed after the sultan's death in 1617. Its architect is Mehmed Aga (d.1622), whose epithet "Sedefkar" refers to his mastery in mother-of-pearl. The mosque is considered to be the last example of Ottoman classical architecture; Mehmed Aga was an apprentice under Sinan (1450?-1588) and Davud Aga (d.1598), two architects whose works have defined the style of this period."

http://archnet.org/library/sites/one-si ... r_by=title
Learn about blue mosque.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taj_Mahal
Read who made it.
I think who made Taj_Mahal is also Student of who made Blue Mosque.

http://uk.encarta.msn.com/text_76156425 ... mpire.html

"Babur, a Central Asian Chaghtai Turk, founded the empire in 1526 after he had defeated the Lodi ruler of Delhi, Ibrahim, and occupied his capital at Agra; in 1527 he consolidated his position by defeating a Rajput confederacy under Rana Sanga of Udaipur. He died in 1530 before he had completely subjugated the Afghans. His son, Humayun, faced difficulties from the Afghans, the sultan of Gujarat, and above all, in his own camp from his brothers and nobles. He was routed by the new Afghan leader, Sher Khan Sur, wandered in exile in Persia, and then settled in Kabul. After 15 years, by which time the Sur regime was in a shambles, he recaptured Hindustan just before his death in 1556. His young son Akbar soon recovered the lost empire, expanding its frontiers almost to the entire upper India, barring Assam and Gondvana. He laid the grounds for the significant economic growth and the fabulous art and building activities of his successors."

Want to learn Turkish Ruler at Iran also?
If you want to learn just ask me.
I will help you If I can.

Know Topkapı Palace?
Or Selimiye mosque?
Dolmabahçe Palace?
Dont be shy, Just ask.
I know I dont know much about Turkish history.But I will try to help you.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun May 29, 2005 9:19 pm



Do not give this site as a reference because everybody can simply log into it and edit, add and delete the text.
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Postby TVSET » Sun May 29, 2005 9:26 pm

Kifeas wrote:


Do not give this site as a reference because everybody can simply log into it and edit, add and delete the text.


That's exactly why this site should be used as a reference. Those bad seeds that you mention don't stay in the encyclopedia all that long. Check the editing logs for examples.
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