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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Sat May 28, 2005 11:37 pm

Murtaza wrote:What I want to say is that. You dont know (Turks are not only ottomans)Turks Culture and history.
So stop to make comment about Turkish Culture.


Don't tell us we don't know Turkish culture and history. We have been experiencing the sharp end of "Turkish culture and history" for centuries now ...

You are free to comment on Greek culture, just as I am free to comment on Turkish culture. If you disagree with my comments, you are entitled to argue against them but you are not entitled to silence me.

Have a good night :wink:
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Postby Murtaza » Sat May 28, 2005 11:39 pm

Alexandros Lordos wrote:
Murtaza wrote:What I want to say is that. You dont know (Turks are not only ottomans)Turks Culture and history.
So stop to make comment about Turkish Culture.


Don't tell us we don't know Turkish culture and history. We have been experiencing the sharp end of "Turkish culture and history" for centuries now ...

You are free to comment on Greek culture, just as I am free to comment on Turkish culture. If you disagree with my comments, you are entitled to argue against them but you are not entitled to silence me.

Have a good night :wink:


ah
nevermind
I lost my hope.
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Just a snipet for you to digest

Postby Turks » Sat May 28, 2005 11:46 pm

The examples of Turkish architecture can be found all across the vast Ottoman Empire covering the time span of over 600 years. The extent of this architectural heritage has been fully documented only in the Europen lands of the Empire in Balkans, thanks to the work of Ekrem Hakki Ayverdi. His work, published between 1980 and 1982, documented Turkish architectural examples of 235 in Romenia, 725 in Hungary, 6941 in former Yugoslavia, 1015 in Albenia, 3370 in Greece and 3340 in Bulgaria. These, totaling about sixteen thousand, do not include the examples in Rodos, Istankoy, Sakiz, Limni and other islans in the Agean Sea as well as the island of Cyprus. If one looks at the breakdown of these at just two contries, Bulgaria and Greece, the folowing picture emerges: In Bulgaria, 2356 mosques, 420 schools, 42 buildings for charity (imaret), 174 religious meeting houses (tekke), 116 inns, 113 Turkish bath houses, 27 mousoleums, 24 bridges, 75 fountains, 26 kervansarays. In addition, there are clock towers, bazaars, tombs, forts and castles and uncountable number of houses. If we look at Greece, a similar picture emerges with 2336 mosques, 504 varius types of schools, 307 religious meeting houses, 207 various buildings for charity, 171 inns, 134 Turkish bath houses, 30 mousoleums, 25 bridges, 22 castles, 10 kervansarays, 10 fountains, 6 aquaducts, 5 watch towers. As in everywhere else, there are also uncountable number of markets or bazaars, tombs and houses. Examples to some of these historical heritage can be found in the link below.

Examples of Ottoman and Seljuk structures represent many centuries long Turkish heritage and culture over vast areas of these empires. Some still survive today despite mindless cultural barbarism exercised in many countries

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Postby erolz » Sat May 28, 2005 11:56 pm

Turks wrote:Hi all

I have decided to return


Welcome back.

Unlike some here I hate to see any poster that is not here with the intent of trying to damage the forums leave - be they Greek, Turkish or any other nationality.

If you behave with respect, which I am sure you will, then I am also sure that you will not be censored for saying things that may not be liked by GC (please don't let me down here mr admin :) )
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Postby MicAtCyp » Sun May 29, 2005 12:00 am

Magik,

Can you enlighten us a bit more? What do you mean they were dying from European diseases? You mean they did not have anti-bodies for common diseases? What happened to the Europeans then, did they not die from American diseases?

Also can you tell us if there was ever an estimate of how many the aboriginals were?

PS.What did you find "partially" wrong in my quoted part?????
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Postby erolz » Sun May 29, 2005 12:15 am

MicAtCyp wrote: Can you enlighten us a bit more? What do you mean they were dying from European diseases? You mean they did not have anti-bodies for common diseases? What happened to the Europeans then, did they not die from American diseases?


No european did not die (in any significant numbers) from 'american diseases'. In fact their is evidence that Europeans purposely traded blankets to native people that they had wrapped round europeans infected with diseases with the intent of spreading death to these natives (one of earliest forms of germ warfare - something later refined and perfected by the 'civilised' western nations with their 'greek based' civilisations).

More info here

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_100.html

MicAtCyp wrote:
Also can you tell us if there was ever an estimate of how many the aboriginals were?


also from the above link

Even so we're talking 94 percent mortality for central Mexico, maybe 87 percent for the Americas overall, reducing the population from 80 million in 1500 to 10 million 50 years later.


or from here

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/v/w/vwf101/con.html

Over 300 million indigenous peoples were brutally tortured or murdered by an invasion of foreign forces in an act to exterminate the indigenous people so as to steal their land and resources. Those who were not exterminated were forcibly removed from their land (either at gunpoint, bayonet point, or forced treaties) and driven off to federal camps called reservations." (Native American Holocaust Museum, pg. 2)



MicAtCyp wrote:
PS.What did you find "partially" wrong in my quoted part?????


Hmm - I wonder!
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Postby MicAtCyp » Sun May 29, 2005 12:47 am

Turks wrote: The examples of Turkish architecture can be found all across the vast Ottoman Empire covering the time span of over 600 years.....


Great contribution so far. Seems you don't know the difference between building and excels of architecture.
Two examples to ring some bells to you: La Tour Eiffel, and Ayia Sophia at Constantinoupolis.
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for get all this

Postby Turks » Sun May 29, 2005 12:51 am

Forget all this look at what is really important
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2177

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Postby Murtaza » Sun May 29, 2005 12:54 am

MicAtCyp wrote:
Turks wrote: The examples of Turkish architecture can be found all across the vast Ottoman Empire covering the time span of over 600 years.....


Great contribution so far. Seems you don't know the difference between building and excels of architecture.
Two examples to ring some bells to you: La Tour Eiffel, and Ayia Sophia at Constantinoupolis.


Or Taj Mahal?
Blue Mosque?
So It looks like you are the one dont know.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Sun May 29, 2005 1:00 am

Erol wrote: The actions of Turkey in 74 were political acts in response to an ongoing poltical crisis that had existed since the formation of an independent Cypriot nation.


wrote: Similar poltical mass movements of people litter out common history as human beings


POLITICAL???? You still insist?


MicAtCyp wrote: because to be a state, the people living in it must own the land and the properties on which this state is founded.


Erol wrote: Absolutely not the case, not in international law or in real world reality.


What ARE YOU talking about man? Are you referring to the middle ages again? Or to what the EU Aquis, the UN charter

Erol wrote: If we could that would not be 'fine' for you.


It is fine for us because you couldn’t

Oh, there is much more in your reply.Sorry enough of time wasting...
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