Tim Drayton wrote:zan wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:zan wrote:Nikitas wrote:Zan,
Rest assured that no GC has made a fortune dealing in TC land, for the simple reason that he cannot. We know from experience that there are many pirate millionaires in the north, some of whom are not even TCs. They made their fortune dealing in stolen land, selling it to willing victims who are out for a bargain.
I am not referring to TCs who had to relocate in 1974. My grandfather's village in the Morphou area is occupied by TCs who were moved from Polis. These people, used to the semi mountainous areas of Polis find the lowlands ugly and stifling but they make do. A few miles further north, near the sea, the story is MUCH different. The land there was allocated to people with connections and to foreigners who made bundles of money.
This is not to say I forgive the "developers" in the south and their political patrons. Even on legally titled GC land most of the construction is downright ugly, unnecessary and in the long run harmful.
I don't think thats strictly true Nikitas....The things that are built on TC property and the back-handers, that are so prominent in Cyprus, would have seen the big boys making plenty of money.....
Zan, Isuggest you re-read the article by Turgut Afşaroğlu that I posted recently on another thread.
You cannot BOTH
- nationalise all abandoned Greek Cypriot immovable property under the TRNC constitution and proceed to issue title to it pursuant to the İTEM Law
(İskan, Topraklandırma ve Eşdeğer Mal Yasası - Law for Housing,
Allocation of Land, and Property of Equal Value)
AND
- complain about unauthorised use or expropriation of abandoned Turkish Cypriot immovable property in the south.
Similarly, you cannot BOTH
- defend the Orams in building on abandoned Greek Cypriot land
AND
- complain about unauthorised construction on abandoned Turkish Cypriot immovable property in the south.
Are you really incapable of seeing the contradiction?
Those same contradictions apply to the "RoC" Tim....You need to see that....I am fully aware of the situation...It is you guys that think its OK for you to do want you want regardless of whether your government is working under the Zurich agreement or not..What this has all been about is the double standards that you are trying t impose on us......The "RoC" should not be functioning and should not be in the EU......If you can do it so can we..If you can moan about it then so can we.....One sided attacks are over.......We operate under difficult if not impossible conditions...You operate without any restrictions and supposedly within the law....The only way you can do the undesired things in the Cyprob is to lie about them....
Then at the same time you moan about thngs ou do yourselves....And I'm looking for a fair deal.
I knew in advance that you would immediately defend yourself by pointing to similar contradictions, or alleged contradictions, on the part of the "other side". This is the reflex of extremists - to detract attention from their own indefensible positions by drawing attention to what
is indefensible, or what they perceiev to be indefensible, in others' positions.
In saying "Those same contradictions apply to the "RoC" ..." you are admitting that your arguments are based on a contradiction. Logically speaking, this invalidates your arguments, irrespective of whether the arguments adavnced by others are also based on contradictory premises or not. You arguments here have no validity, and you are admiting as such.
And at the same time yours mate...I do not waste my time on this Forum.......A balanced mentality is needed in the so called "RoC"....Perhaps this is one way to do it...I am no expert...Just a pissed off TC.....Look at your logic and see that I am right....
I will reply in kind to every accusation and if you are doing the same then we are cancelled out as a pair.....It is you lot that jump on the bandwagon when Turkey or the TRNC do something wrong...I have proved over and over again that you are o better but have even less excuse than we have....
