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Postby CBBB » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:10 am

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CBBB wrote:The ECHR is not an EU institution.


:lol: He falls for it every time


Nice try at changing the discussion boys but the always refers to the commission and it was one of your ministers that complained to the EU that it was making decisions against you... :roll:


Now the land...This will not go away girls so please explain.....I will be going to work soon but please, all my TC brothers.....Keep this going and ask the question......WHOSE LAND!!! :wink:


Pot.....kettle......black?
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:16 am

CBBB wrote:
zan wrote:
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CBBB wrote:The ECHR is not an EU institution.


:lol: He falls for it every time


Nice try at changing the discussion boys but the always refers to the commission and it was one of your ministers that complained to the EU that it was making decisions against you... :roll:


Now the land...This will not go away girls so please explain.....I will be going to work soon but please, all my TC brothers.....Keep this going and ask the question......WHOSE LAND!!! :wink:


Pot.....kettle......black?

Not at all.......It is not me that has tried to whitewash the problems and the intents.....Only you purists......Of the GC world anyway....

Just because we did it does not absolve you mate...The numbers will all change again.....What is your excuse...Ours obviously is because we are animals :roll: :lol: What is yours...This is a big issue..Why is the so called legitimate "RoC" allowed to do this but still scream rape...Flying he Greek flag but still screams rape....Singing the Greek national anthem and still scream rape....Giving away land for good and still screams rape...How much of this FREE land has been sold on and how many are occupied by settlers/foreigners???? ow has this complicated the talks??????
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:12 pm

This refugee estate is about a mile away from where I sit now. It is within the boundaries of Agios Athanasios municipality, and Agios Athanasios was shown to be 100% Greek Cypriot in the 1960 census. If you are trying to imply that this is Turkish Cypriot owned land, you are factually incorrect. Time to go back to the drawing board and google up some fresh stuff!
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Re: How many refugees????

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:25 pm

zan wrote:the GC refugees seem to have either been given a house to be passed over to their family or it seems a silly amount of money to keep them happy...Money aside.....How do they stand in the grand scheme of "Refugees" in the homeless sense and if they now have property in the "RoC" what happens to their land in the TRNC????? Seems like something else significant that we have not been informed about.....

Thousands of refugees had spent 15 odd years in green wooden 3x4 shacks until the government finally started building ”refugee state housing” to relocate them. Eventually they all did get relocated but the houses remained the property of the government until quite recently when some sort of acquisition scheme was introduced for which I don’t know the details.

But anyway…

The land/houses of refugees in the occupied territory REMAIN THEIR RIGHTFUL PROPERTY, and when a refugee passes away the rightful owners of that land/property become their children, so don’t get any funny ideas…

NB: Even if the government was to gift them 20 free mansions each, it is none of your concern as they are still ENTITLED TO THEIR RIGHTFUL PROPERTIES in the occupied territory.
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:08 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:This refugee estate is about a mile away from where I sit now. It is within the boundaries of Agios Athanasios municipality, and Agios Athanasios was shown to be 100% Greek Cypriot in the 1960 census. If you are trying to imply that this is Turkish Cypriot owned land, you are factually incorrect. Time to go back to the drawing board and google up some fresh stuff!


Where did the extra houses go Tim...I am not at all saying that it is TC land..That has nothing to do with it...But somebody paid for the land and then built on it...Not only does the original land owner make money but so does the people moving in and owning it....Tax payers money...I could understand putting them up but that is not the case.
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Re: How many refugees????

Postby zan » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:the GC refugees seem to have either been given a house to be passed over to their family or it seems a silly amount of money to keep them happy...Money aside.....How do they stand in the grand scheme of "Refugees" in the homeless sense and if they now have property in the "RoC" what happens to their land in the TRNC????? Seems like something else significant that we have not been informed about.....

Thousands of refugees had spent 15 odd years in green wooden 3x4 shacks until the government finally started building ”refugee state housing” to relocate them. Eventually they all did get relocated but the houses remained the property of the government until quite recently when some sort of acquisition scheme was introduced for which I don’t know the details.

But anyway…

The land/houses of refugees in the occupied territory REMAIN THEIR RIGHTFUL PROPERTY, and when a refugee passes away the rightful owners of that land/property become their children, so don’t get any funny ideas…

NB: Even if the government was to gift them 20 free mansions each, it is none of your concern as they are still ENTITLED TO THEIR RIGHTFUL PROPERTIES in the occupied territory.



Aren't you going to ask for your money back????
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Re: How many refugees????

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:14 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:the GC refugees seem to have either been given a house to be passed over to their family or it seems a silly amount of money to keep them happy...Money aside.....How do they stand in the grand scheme of "Refugees" in the homeless sense and if they now have property in the "RoC" what happens to their land in the TRNC????? Seems like something else significant that we have not been informed about.....

Thousands of refugees had spent 15 odd years in green wooden 3x4 shacks until the government finally started building ”refugee state housing” to relocate them. Eventually they all did get relocated but the houses remained the property of the government until quite recently when some sort of acquisition scheme was introduced for which I don’t know the details.

But anyway…

The land/houses of refugees in the occupied territory REMAIN THEIR RIGHTFUL PROPERTY, and when a refugee passes away the rightful owners of that land/property become their children, so don’t get any funny ideas…

NB: Even if the government was to gift them 20 free mansions each, it is none of your concern as they are still ENTITLED TO THEIR RIGHTFUL PROPERTIES in the occupied territory.

Aren't you going to ask for your money back????

What money? I never got a dime from nobody.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:19 pm

zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:This refugee estate is about a mile away from where I sit now. It is within the boundaries of Agios Athanasios municipality, and Agios Athanasios was shown to be 100% Greek Cypriot in the 1960 census. If you are trying to imply that this is Turkish Cypriot owned land, you are factually incorrect. Time to go back to the drawing board and google up some fresh stuff!


Where did the extra houses go Tim...I am not at all saying that it is TC land..That has nothing to do with it...But somebody paid for the land and then built on it...Not only does the original land owner make money but so does the people moving in and owning it....Tax payers money...I could understand putting them up but that is not the case.


Well, there is another refugee estate very close to where I live (Agios Athanasios Refugee Estate), and I am on speaking terms with one refugee from Morphou who lives there. He says that years ago local people were always pestering them to buy their plots of land, but nobody on the estate was interested. Land locally was apparently going for a song in the 1970's. This same man says that if he had bought land then, he would be a millionaire now. The point is that at that time land in this area was cheap and people were only too happy to sell - Limassol was a small town several miles downhill at that time, and the land here only had agricultural value. The government must have been able to acquire the land to build this estate, and others like it, quite cheaply. That is my guess.
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Postby CBBB » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:24 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:This refugee estate is about a mile away from where I sit now. It is within the boundaries of Agios Athanasios municipality, and Agios Athanasios was shown to be 100% Greek Cypriot in the 1960 census. If you are trying to imply that this is Turkish Cypriot owned land, you are factually incorrect. Time to go back to the drawing board and google up some fresh stuff!


Where did the extra houses go Tim...I am not at all saying that it is TC land..That has nothing to do with it...But somebody paid for the land and then built on it...Not only does the original land owner make money but so does the people moving in and owning it....Tax payers money...I could understand putting them up but that is not the case.


Well, there is another refugee estate very close to where I live (Agios Athanasios Refugee Estate), and I am on speaking terms with one refugee from Morphou who lives there. He says that years ago local people were always pestering them to buy their plots of land, but nobody on the estate was interested. Land locally was apparently going for a song in the 1970's. This same man says that if he had bought land then, he would be a millionaire now. The point is that at that time land in this area was cheap and people were only too happy to sell - Limassol was a small town several miles downhill at that time, and the land here only had agricultural value. The government must have been able to acquire the land to build this estate, and others like it, quite cheaply. That is my guess.


It's obviously not zans taxes, so what is he worried about?

I suppose the point is that if you start a thread posing certain questions which then get shot out of the water, you have to start looking for a lifebelt!
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:50 pm

CBBB wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:This refugee estate is about a mile away from where I sit now. It is within the boundaries of Agios Athanasios municipality, and Agios Athanasios was shown to be 100% Greek Cypriot in the 1960 census. If you are trying to imply that this is Turkish Cypriot owned land, you are factually incorrect. Time to go back to the drawing board and google up some fresh stuff!


Where did the extra houses go Tim...I am not at all saying that it is TC land..That has nothing to do with it...But somebody paid for the land and then built on it...Not only does the original land owner make money but so does the people moving in and owning it....Tax payers money...I could understand putting them up but that is not the case.


Well, there is another refugee estate very close to where I live (Agios Athanasios Refugee Estate), and I am on speaking terms with one refugee from Morphou who lives there. He says that years ago local people were always pestering them to buy their plots of land, but nobody on the estate was interested. Land locally was apparently going for a song in the 1970's. This same man says that if he had bought land then, he would be a millionaire now. The point is that at that time land in this area was cheap and people were only too happy to sell - Limassol was a small town several miles downhill at that time, and the land here only had agricultural value. The government must have been able to acquire the land to build this estate, and others like it, quite cheaply. That is my guess.


It's obviously not zans taxes, so what is he worried about?

I suppose the point is that if you start a thread posing certain questions which then get shot out of the water, you have to start looking for a lifebelt!


That disease of GRs is catching I see...Prematureselfgratification.....


I am sure that many are built on government land also.............I am just wondering if your government knows something that makes them give land and homes away..... :lol:
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