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[Viewpoint]

...you read into the replies what you want vp. i am not "Greek", and just because "Turks" are unliked by all does not mean Greeks and Turks are a part of the Problem, except as victims of "their" intolerance.

regardless the anthems played, (or not played), neutrality, a love for soccer, is demonstrated with acts, so is Goodwill, act accordingly.

...go ahead, vp, say, "i love Cyprus, first". it will give you pleasure, and it will piss off the ones who are the "others".

So you do not support neutrality and that a new national anthem be played at international matches, you want to force the GREEK national anthem on Cypriots.....speak up or you prove to everyone that your love for Cyprus is not genuine.

[Maximus]

...you read into the replies what you want vp. i am not "Greek", and just because "Turks" are unliked by all does not mean Greeks and Turks are a part of the Problem, except as victims of "their" intolerance.

regardless the anthems played, (or not played), neutrality, a love for soccer, is demonstrated with acts, so is Goodwill, act accordingly.

...go ahead, vp, say, "i love Cyprus, first". it will give you pleasure, and it will piss off the ones who are the "others".

So you do not support neutrality and that a new national anthem be played at international matches, you want to force the GREEK national anthem on Cypriots.....speak up or you prove to everyone that your love for Cyprus is not genuine.

This is backwards, it was only the other day that you was telling us all that you are TURKISH. It is YOU who is trying to force Cypriots to adopt something else just to suit YOU. You are doing it now.

You don't know what it is to be Cypriot anyway, except for when you are referring to colonial paper or the continued existence of "TRNC".

[repulsewarrior]

...you read into the replies what you want vp. i am not "Greek", and just because "Turks" are unliked by all does not mean Greeks and Turks are a part of the Problem, except as victims of "their" intolerance.

regardless the anthems played, (or not played), neutrality, a love for soccer, is demonstrated with acts, so is Goodwill, act accordingly.

...go ahead, vp, say, "i love Cyprus, first". it will give you pleasure, and it will piss off the ones who are the "others".

So you do not support neutrality and that a new national anthem be played at international matches, you want to force the GREEK national anthem on Cypriots.....speak up or you prove to everyone that your love for Cyprus is not genuine.

...the words speak for themselves. it is obvious that you read into the words what you want, in essence their meaning is valueless except as a springboard for the twisting of them you insist on foisting on the readership.

again, if you are a Cypriot, rather than "Turkish", can you say, "i love Cyprus, first"?

[Kikapu]

Sertoglu has the support of the majority of TCs but his stance is not to pour petrol onto the fire as suggested by the GCs but remind people that the agreement with the consent GCs can be adjusted over time if found to be unworkable or unfair, it can even be cancelled altogether, so he has not really sold the TRNC out it still remains as is and our football teams are in tact, we can look forward to watching how the CFA will implement the agreement in front of the world it will serve as an example of how they would deal with an comprehensive agreement. So in reality now the south have a lot to prove and we have the opportunity for our youth and teams to play internationally. Can you imagine Cetinkaya beating Omonia and going to Europe as a Cypriot team....we look forward to seeing this do you? how will it make you GCs feel or will you do as you did in the past and manipulate the system to your own benefit? now in front of the EU.

Will Cetinkaya players then stand for the Cyprus National Anthem or will they walk off the pitch and will you as a fan sing along in the stands?

Do you think this is fair? doesnt the Cyprus constitution include both Turkish and Greek national anthems, best solution would be to get one of our own then there would be no problems.

The question is not whether it's fair or not regarding the National Anthem, but whether or not TC teams and fans will salute the present National Anthem of the RoC? There are many unfair situations in Cyprus today, so lets not cherry pick the ones you don't like only. Considering almost all of the TCs players in the "trnc" are RoC passport holders, must have accepted the RoC's National Anthem by accepting the RoC's passport, so where is the issue? After all, these TC players in the "trnc" are not saluting a New Cypriot Anthem now but instead a foreign Turkish National Anthem. What difference will it make to them if they were to salute another foreign National Anthem in Cyprus, except this time one from Greece? As DT stated, once there is a settlement, there will be a new Cyprus National Anthem, but in the interim, we are were we are, which means TC players will need to do what ever the CFA has in it's rules if they wish to play under the CFA's umbrella, NO?

[bill cobbett]

One of the chief partitionists in "trnc", one whose family has made a good living out of separatism for decades, is the Son of the Extremely Big One known as something like Sardos Donktosh. A chap who wanders aimlessly around the Occupied Areas trying to pass himself off as some kind of "minister for culture and sport".

The man is recorded in almost all the press of the Occupied Areas of the past few days as being dead against the Agreement twixt CFA and "t"CFA.

Obviously in a panic, he has come up with a suitably ill-thought out Turk to Turk solution to the Isolation imposed on football by "trnc" and that's for teams to join the Turkish League.

One day and we can only live in the forlornest of forlorn hope that such a day comes, these second-rate politicians of "trnc", people who would have a hard time managing a public convenience, will do the research and even think a little before making these nonsensical suggestions.

Cos research of the EUFA rule-book and of football history going back over the decades will tell them there is only one way for "trnc" to end the Isolation of Football up there and that is through the good offices of the CFA as per the recent Football Agreement.

[DT.]

There are a few realities that the tc's need to understand first regarding this deal.

1) Non of the TC teams are eligible financially or otherwise to meet the UEFA criteria at this moment so cannot play international games.
2) The TC teams have requested they instead be eligible to enter the Regional Cup competition which caters for amateur clubs and an agreement has been reached that this will be examined closely.
3) All players that will compete abroad need to have a valid passport. If they are TC then they will either require a Cypriot or a Turkish passport.
4) The CFA has not objected to TC's playing for the national side in the same spirit that Palestinians play for the Israeli team.

[B25]

A turkish passport wont get them into the EU without a visa. Anything other than a RoC passport is BS and should NOT be acceptable. Period. This is Cyprus not f turkey.

[Demonax]

Unsurprisingly, Ankara is trying to get the Turkish Cypriots to abandon the deal and to keep the TCs embargoed from international sport:

(Article in Greek)
http://www.kathimerini.com.cy/index.php ... id=153635#

Google translate:

According to the information, which did impact the earlier hours in the headlines of some t / c media last Tuesday, Ankara lobbied the leadership of T / C association with a view to rejecting the historic agreement. According to the T / C inside, the vice of the Turkish government, Bashir Atalay telephoned the president of T / C Hassan Sertoglou federation, the moment he met in Switzerland with representatives KOP, UEFA and FIFA. Mr. Atalay reportedly pointed to their own that the new agreement is unacceptable from the perspective of Ankara. According to the Turkish side, the new agreement provides for the integration of the T / C football structures, which are controlled by the E / C community, a fact which will not accept Ankara. Turkish Cypriot media highlight after speech by Mr Atalay, Mr. Sertoglou forced to reconsider its position. He, despite the fact that he signed the final text of the agreement, he argued that the future of Cypriot football will be decided after intensive consultations in Cyprus. Ankara expects the attitude of the T / C side in a time when the T / C guy brings forth important information which concerns the relations of the T / C side with Ankara, the Turkish government announced that it expects the final stop of the T / C leadership to be mounted on the matter. Previous hours, the Turkish Foreign Ministry announced that the Turkish government is awaiting the final decision of the T / C side to put more on the future of Cypriot football.

[B25]

This just confirms what i said earlier, as soon as superglu returned to Cyprus, Ankara put the brakes on him. And the TCs think its us that maintain the embargoes ffs.
Plonkers

[bill cobbett]

There are a few realities that the tc's need to understand first regarding this deal.

1) Non of the TC teams are eligible financially or otherwise to meet the UEFA criteria at this moment so cannot play international games.
2) The TC teams have requested they instead be eligible to enter the Regional Cup competition which caters for amateur clubs and an agreement has been reached that this will be examined closely.
3) All players that will compete abroad need to have a valid passport. If they are TC then they will either require a Cypriot or a Turkish passport.
4) The CFA has not objected to TC's playing for the national side in the same spirit that Palestinians play for the Israeli team.

At last we're getting a few details of the Agreement that "trnc" and Turkey's Deputy PM are trying to kill in order to maintain their Embargoes.