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[Kyrenia]

So who was calling TC's brainwashed?

How the hell you can ask this kid to live together,play football together with TCs in the future?

[Piratis]

So who was calling TC's brainwashed?

How the hell you can ask this kid to live together,play football together with TCs in the future?

Did you understand what they kid said? Or you just assumed because you are brainwashed?

[DT.]

Re lemeshiane.....we're coming after you next Gamw thn Lemesso

[DT.]

See if you can understand what they're saying

[CBBB]

See if you can understand what they're saying

Especially for our Limassolian members.

[Paphitis]

It certainly does not make it hypocritical. If the TCs want to play internationally recognised football, then the least they could do is abide by certain reasonable guidelines such as not using the sport to upgrade their illegal state, allow teams to utilise illegal ports of entry into Cyprus, and using football pitches or hotels which are legitimately owned by GC refugees.

The ball is clearly in their court. They can play football if they wish, and we support them to do this, but do not use the sport to further their aims and objectives. FIFA affiliate rules imply that there will only ever be one recognised football authority which means that the TCs need to join the auspices of the CFA to play football in much the same way as the Palestinian football teams are affiliated with the Israeli Football Federation.

Sorry, Paphitis. It IS hypocritical. The FIFA statement regarding the denial of TCFF is that only one central controlling body in any recognized country can be members of FIFA and it's continental affilitates. The 'One China' policy means that FIFA technically cannot have both Chinas compete. By your logic regarding CFA, the teams in Taiwan would have to join the Chinese Football Association, and it's even more so in the case of Palestine. Independence has not been declared for that state and therefore, it is not a country. But FIFA recognizes the Palestinian Soccer Federation as a national football body, even though the CFA excample would dictate that Palestinian football clubs are obliged to join the Israeli Football Association.

IMHO, the Taiwan example should have been used, as it allows participation without conceding formal recognition. They use a neutralist flag, anthem, team emblem, and a different name ("Chinese Taipei"). Why can't this precedent be extended to the TCFF? Oh, and by the way, this should also IMHO be applied to Kosovo, Transdnistra, South Ossetia, Somaliland, and Abkhazia. Sporting exclusion on political grounds is wrong!

It is true that only one central controlling body in any recognised country can become an affiliate to FIFA.

The Chinese Taipei Football Association was an affiliate of The Chinese Football Federation and gained FIFA affiliation in 1954 as part of the China Football Association.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Ta ... ssociation

The Palestinian Football Association was founded in 1928 and became a FIFA affiliate in 1929. In 1948, The Palestinian Football Association became the Israel Football Association. The new Palestinian Football Association was formed in 1962, but never became a FIFA affiliate until 1998 when The Palestinian Authority was created.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinia ... Federation

You cannot use the Taiwanese model because you would effectively be granting an occupation regime legitimacy and recognition. There is no way the CFA would allow this, but what they would possibly allow is for the TCs to join and affiliate with the CFA, which would give them the legitimacy to play football unrestricted, provided the guidelines were not contravened.

FIFA is obligated to recognise only one central governing body, and in Cyprus this is the CFA. It cannot recognise the football association of the "trnc". The only way the TCs can end their football isolation is to join the CFA or await until the Cyprus problem is solved.

[paliometoxo]

lollllll gamw to apoeeeeeel .. good boy omonoia forever

[DT.]

lollllll gamw to apoeeeeeel .. good boy omonoia forever

i used to like you kiddo...you're in the black book now.

[utu]

It is true that only one central controlling body in any recognised country can become an affiliate to FIFA.

The Chinese Taipei Football Association was an affiliate of The Chinese Football Federation and gained FIFA affiliation in 1954 as part of the China Football Association.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Ta ... ssociation

The Palestinian Football Association was founded in 1928 and became a FIFA affiliate in 1929. In 1948, The Palestinian Football Association became the Israel Football Association. The new Palestinian Football Association was formed in 1962, but never became a FIFA affiliate until 1998 when The Palestinian Authority was created.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinia ... Federation

You cannot use the Taiwanese model because you would effectively be granting an occupation regime legitimacy and recognition. There is no way the CFA would allow this, but what they would possibly allow is for the TCs to join and affiliate with the CFA, which would give them the legitimacy to play football unrestricted, provided the guidelines were not contravened.

FIFA is obligated to recognise only one central governing body, and in Cyprus this is the CFA. It cannot recognise the football association of the "trnc". The only way the TCs can end their football isolation is to join the CFA or await until the Cyprus problem is solved.

You're forgetting that when China-Taipei was allowed to compete, FIFA made it clear that their doing so was in no way an endorsement or recognition of the Republic of China. By wyour logic as stated above, that means that the former South Vietnam oculd still compete as it was a recognized enitity before their country was erased off the map in 1975! Emigres could re-form it and thus ligitimately play! You could say the same for the former East Germany, the USSR, and Yemen would be able to ligimately have two national soccer bodies. Sorry, Paphitis, but your argument doesn't cut much ice with me. Palestine was done simply as a sop to the Arab countries, and Taiwan had a number of supporters in FIFA, and their altered status was simply done as a sop to China. Political expediency in FIFA is shown very clearly by the Taiwan and Palestine examples.

[Paphitis]

It is true that only one central controlling body in any recognised country can become an affiliate to FIFA.

The Chinese Taipei Football Association was an affiliate of The Chinese Football Federation and gained FIFA affiliation in 1954 as part of the China Football Association.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Ta ... ssociation

The Palestinian Football Association was founded in 1928 and became a FIFA affiliate in 1929. In 1948, The Palestinian Football Association became the Israel Football Association. The new Palestinian Football Association was formed in 1962, but never became a FIFA affiliate until 1998 when The Palestinian Authority was created.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinia ... Federation

You cannot use the Taiwanese model because you would effectively be granting an occupation regime legitimacy and recognition. There is no way the CFA would allow this, but what they would possibly allow is for the TCs to join and affiliate with the CFA, which would give them the legitimacy to play football unrestricted, provided the guidelines were not contravened.

FIFA is obligated to recognise only one central governing body, and in Cyprus this is the CFA. It cannot recognise the football association of the "trnc". The only way the TCs can end their football isolation is to join the CFA or await until the Cyprus problem is solved.

You're forgetting that when China-Taipei was allowed to compete, FIFA made it clear that their doing so was in no way an endorsement or recognition of the Republic of China. By wyour logic as stated above, that means that the former South Vietnam oculd still compete as it was a recognized enitity before their country was erased off the map in 1975! Emigres could re-form it and thus ligitimately play! You could say the same for the former East Germany, the USSR, and Yemen would be able to ligimately have two national soccer bodies. Sorry, Paphitis, but your argument doesn't cut much ice with me. Palestine was done simply as a sop to the Arab countries, and Taiwan had a number of supporters in FIFA, and their altered status was simply done as a sop to China. Political expediency in FIFA is shown very clearly by the Taiwan and Palestine examples.

The realities are very differant to what you have been told, and my argument still stands because the TCs had an opportunity to end their football isolation, and they turned it down...

NICOSIA, Cyprus: The Cyprus Football Association says talks with the breakaway Turkish Cypriots to unify football on the ethnically divided island have collapsed.

The CFA said in a statement Friday it considers "the matter over" after the Cyprus Turkish Football Association turned down a FIFA- and UEFA-brokered deal on ending its decades-old exclusion from international football.

The CFA said a Feb. 2 meeting in Zurich to sign the deal has been canceled.

FIFA and UEFA only recognize the Greek Cypriot-run CFA. The breakaway Turkish Cypriot state is recognized only by Turkey, and FIFA rules don't allow for two associations to operate in one country.

Cyprus was split in 1974 when Turkey invaded in response to a coup by supporters of a union with Greece.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/01/ ... otball.php