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Postby saravakos » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:18 am

Free Spirit wrote:See Hamas has been at it again today, naughty Isaraelis fancy letting themselves get blown up; whatever next; surely they won't even think of retaliating that would be very naughty of them.

Yeah, funny how they keep it to small print that a Palestinian died too.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:28 am

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Free Spirit wrote:See Hamas has been at it again today, naughty Isaraelis fancy letting themselves get blown up; whatever next; surely they won't even think of retaliating that would be very naughty of them.

Yeah, funny how they keep it to small print that a Palestinian died too.

You should be appointed the Hamas spokesperson in charge of excusing any rockets launched at Israel :lol:
You have confused my views so let me tell you straight.
I believe in a peaceful solution one that respects the rights of the Palestinians and the rights of the Israelis. A solution that Palestine is helped both by Israel and the USA as well as the UN to establish a solid state for the Palestinian people , a nation of Palestinians that will be free of the cancer that grips them at the moment , violence and more violence , young children growing up mentally raped and full of hatred and vengeance , ready to blow themselves up just as long as they take as many innocents with them as possible.
Remove from their little minds the filthy notion that killing is holy , that they are martyrs and that Paradise is awaiting.
This vicious circle has been continuing for more than half a century.
Israel mus be recognised and must then be put under all pressure possible to withdraw back to its pre 1967 borders.
Continuing on the present road will only mean more and more innocents dying .
Renounce violence , negotiate with heads held high , use diplomacy instead of guns.
What is your solution mate ?
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Postby saravakos » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:53 am

Look, i agree with you but if you watch Occupation 101 (I'll send you a DVD copy if you like) you realise these people are desperate to do what they're doing. They've been reduced to these suicide bombings cause of the way they are treated. I'm not condoing it but i can understand it. In the West Bank where they have jewish settlements, that land has been bulldozed and any Palestinian houses have gone. The jews get fresh running water, swimming pools, electric...everything we have and more while just a few 100 metres away the Palestinians live in poverty. The jew settlers are also required to carry weapons and have repeatedly shot at the PAlestinian towns and villages randomnly. Just please watch the documentary and have an open mind.

At the end of the day its a question of humanity. We are all equals in this world.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:33 am

saravakos wrote:Look, i agree with you but if you watch Occupation 101 (I'll send you a DVD copy if you like) you realise these people are desperate to do what they're doing. They've been reduced to these suicide bombings cause of the way they are treated. I'm not condoing it but i can understand it. In the West Bank where they have jewish settlements, that land has been bulldozed and any Palestinian houses have gone. The jews get fresh running water, swimming pools, electric...everything we have and more while just a few 100 metres away the Palestinians live in poverty. The jew settlers are also required to carry weapons and have repeatedly shot at the PAlestinian towns and villages randomnly. Just please watch the documentary and have an open mind.

At the end of the day its a question of humanity. We are all equals in this world.

Diplomacy and a Palestinian statesman is what is needed.
The Israelis will be in a corner if the Palestinian authorities issue a proclamation recognising the state of Israel and at the same time demanding that Israel returns to its pre 1967 borders , a notion that most of the world will support. Struggle with diplomacy and score a victory against Israel , a victory in the field of diplomacy will achieve far more than launching rockets at it and inviting retributions.
A brave new leader might be the medicine that Palestine needs so much.
Hamas and Hezbollah have been a catastrophe to the Palestinian people.
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Postby saravakos » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:42 pm

You say that but the PLO were shit too. Arafat stole loads of money for himself and that deal which was supposed to end the occupation was a fake. The Israelis used the PLO's own police force to do their dirty work for them. I cant remember but i think thats what led to the 2nd Intifada.

But you're right they do need someone strong and above decent...is there anyone like that in the world though?!
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:52 pm

saravakos wrote:You say that but the PLO were shit too. Arafat stole loads of money for himself and that deal which was supposed to end the occupation was a fake. The Israelis used the PLO's own police force to do their dirty work for them. I cant remember but i think thats what led to the 2nd Intifada.

But you're right they do need someone strong and above decent...is there anyone like that in the world though?!

I used to have a great amount of respect for Arafat , until he was confirmed as a money pinching selfish womaniser.
The Palestinians really do need a true statesman and it will not come from either Hamas or Hezbollah . Who and when nobody knows until then the innocent will suffer.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:09 pm

Israeli troops killed Gaza children carrying white flag, witnesses say
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/world/story/60853.html

Border Closes, Israel Promises More Gaza Strikes
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/27/bord ... a-strikes/
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Postby Free Spirit » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:Blah Blah Blah Israelis this! Blah Blah Blah Israelis That!


How informative from the spokesthing for worldwide terrorism and all other trolls.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:15 pm

Free Spirit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Blah Blah Blah Israelis this! Blah Blah Blah Israelis That!

How informative from the spokesthing for worldwide terrorism and all other trolls.

That you’re a fanatic supporter of the gutless and spineless tormentors of the impoverished citizens of 3rd world countries, while masquerading behind the “terrorism” deceitful mask is a well known fact on this forum FoulSpirit…


Israel Continues Gaza Attacks: Insists It Isn’t Violating Ceasefire
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/28/isra ... ceasefire/

France Summons Israeli Ambassador Over Convoy Attack
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/28/fran ... oy-attack/

Gaza detainees held bound for days
http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/Articl ... 33,00.html
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Postby tranquill » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:39 pm

I was surprised to learn that Israel censors military info and even banned international reporters from conflict areas. Here is an underground site called Israeli Uncensored News http://samsonblinded.org/news which runs some very odd reports.
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