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[zan]

The Turkish settlers entered Cyprus illegally , since Cyprus is recognised the world over as the legitimate sovereignty over all of Cyprus. Importing 40 thousand occupying troops and allowing the settlement of Turkish citizens into Cyprus is illegal . The T/Cs , most of them , see it as such. They are under the occupation of a foreign country.

Copperline , as usual offers his own brand of what constitutes legal and illegal behaviour.
The fact of the matter is that the settlers entered Cyprus illegally via entry points controlled by the occupying army.

Can you provide proof or do we have to just trust you?

Yes I can : UNITED NATIONS , EUROPEAN UNION , ALL INTERNATIONAL ENTITIES AND THE MAJORITY OF TURKISH CYPRIOTS WHO HAVE LEFT THE ISLAND BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE OCCUPATION AND CORRUPTION.
What other proof would you like VP ? The occupying power is the only one recognising a corrupt system . ALL THE WORLD , recognises the Roc , not Greek Cyprus NOT South Cyprus but the free Cyprus known as the RoC.

Of course you would read it like that...Not that those leaving were looking for work or just fed up with your isolation....That is the real prof...There is also proof that ALL my sisters have returned and many more like them....Even without the use of my fathers land.....You see what you want to see mate....Keep fooling yourself and lose the TRNC for ever.

[Viewpoint]

The Turkish settlers entered Cyprus illegally , since Cyprus is recognised the world over as the legitimate sovereignty over all of Cyprus. Importing 40 thousand occupying troops and allowing the settlement of Turkish citizens into Cyprus is illegal . The T/Cs , most of them , see it as such. They are under the occupation of a foreign country.

Copperline , as usual offers his own brand of what constitutes legal and illegal behaviour.
The fact of the matter is that the settlers entered Cyprus illegally via entry points controlled by the occupying army.

Can you provide proof or do we have to just trust you?

Yes I can : UNITED NATIONS , EUROPEAN UNION , ALL INTERNATIONAL ENTITIES AND THE MAJORITY OF TURKISH CYPRIOTS WHO HAVE LEFT THE ISLAND BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE OCCUPATION AND CORRUPTION.
What other proof would you like VP ? The occupying power is the only one recognising a corrupt system . ALL THE WORLD , recognises the Roc , not Greek Cyprus NOT South Cyprus but the free Cyprus known as the RoC.

The majority of TC part interests me the most have you spoken to them all?

[skipper]

Copperline, whatever the outcome of the talks, territory will be traded for autonomy. Talat seems to want a weak central government (Cyprus Mail yesterday), the only way he will get this is by giving back more land. We will end up with a situation where the GCs see Talat's position as just one step away from partition. Annan proposed 29% for the northern State with return of some refugees.

The 29% proposed in the Annan plan is not a clear cut as it seems because from what I remember the plan allowed for around 30% population fors GC's to live and vote in the TC state except for federal elections where their votes would count for the GC federal state and vice versa. The thing is however that there is no hard research on the actual numbers who would be willing to live under the other community probably because it would precieved to weaken their negotiating position but atleast we can say the TCs have n't been migrating to the south in large numbers since the green line opened.

If they start haggling around the 22-23% mark I think the GCs would go for it and at an even lower figure partition may even be agreed.

That depends on what that 22-23% actually means, how many GC's will be allowed to return etc etc.

Settlers and would be offered financial inducements to leave the land returned to the ROC. Those that remained on GC property would, presumably, be open to action in the ROC Courts, as Orams. Forewarned with the consequences of staying I'm sure most settlers would leave.

It would probably come down to if people are being made homeless or not, so it would have to be deemed "fair". Of course what is fair depends on which side on the fence you are on.

On the assumption that the northern State became fully autonomous I don't think too many in the south would care how many stayed there. How this would fit in with Turkey's EU application is anyone's guess, a thumbs up from the ROC for a bit more land perhaps?

I dont understand what "fully autonomous" would be even, do you mean a TC canton within Cyprus? If so how could it be fully autonomous? To TC's it would resemble the situation between 63-74 but just with a much larger area.

One other element that has not been considered is how many settlers would leave for other places in the EU if given citizenship after a settlement. I would speculate those jobless youths you mentioned would be amongst the first to leave.

[miltiades]

The Turkish settlers entered Cyprus illegally , since Cyprus is recognised the world over as the legitimate sovereignty over all of Cyprus. Importing 40 thousand occupying troops and allowing the settlement of Turkish citizens into Cyprus is illegal . The T/Cs , most of them , see it as such. They are under the occupation of a foreign country.

Copperline , as usual offers his own brand of what constitutes legal and illegal behaviour.
The fact of the matter is that the settlers entered Cyprus illegally via entry points controlled by the occupying army.

Can you provide proof or do we have to just trust you?

Yes I can : UNITED NATIONS , EUROPEAN UNION , ALL INTERNATIONAL ENTITIES AND THE MAJORITY OF TURKISH CYPRIOTS WHO HAVE LEFT THE ISLAND BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE OCCUPATION AND CORRUPTION.
What other proof would you like VP ? The occupying power is the only one recognising a corrupt system . ALL THE WORLD , recognises the Roc , not Greek Cyprus NOT South Cyprus but the free Cyprus known as the RoC.

The majority of TC part interests me the most have you spoken to them all?

As a matter of fact I have , and they are all sick and tired of the continued Turkification of their island under occupation , most of them have sworn NEVER to go back just as long as Cyprus is divided. Some have said they would even prefer to live in Cyprus as a minority rather than be under Turkish occupation. Yes mate , I know lots and lots of T/Cs , more than you and Zan put together. I did tell you a few times that in my extended family we have a T/C and his family as part of my family.
They are CYPRIOT Above all else !!

[zan]

The Turkish settlers entered Cyprus illegally , since Cyprus is recognised the world over as the legitimate sovereignty over all of Cyprus. Importing 40 thousand occupying troops and allowing the settlement of Turkish citizens into Cyprus is illegal . The T/Cs , most of them , see it as such. They are under the occupation of a foreign country.

Copperline , as usual offers his own brand of what constitutes legal and illegal behaviour.
The fact of the matter is that the settlers entered Cyprus illegally via entry points controlled by the occupying army.

Can you provide proof or do we have to just trust you?

Yes I can : UNITED NATIONS , EUROPEAN UNION , ALL INTERNATIONAL ENTITIES AND THE MAJORITY OF TURKISH CYPRIOTS WHO HAVE LEFT THE ISLAND BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE OCCUPATION AND CORRUPTION.
What other proof would you like VP ? The occupying power is the only one recognising a corrupt system . ALL THE WORLD , recognises the Roc , not Greek Cyprus NOT South Cyprus but the free Cyprus known as the RoC.

The majority of TC part interests me the most have you spoken to them all?

As a matter of fact I have , and they are all sick and tired of the continued Turkification of their island under occupation , most of them have sworn NEVER to go back just as long as Cyprus is divided. Some have said they would even prefer to live in Cyprus as a minority rather than be under Turkish occupation. Yes mate , I know lots and lots of T/Cs , more than you and Zan put together. I did tell you a few times that in my extended family we have a T/C and his family as part of my family.
They are CYPRIOT Above all else !!

Even more than your few brain cells I suppose...

You plonker Miltiades....My extended family would be greater than your imaginary friends...What a plonker.....

[yasemin]

Are Greeks in the "GRSC" Illegal??

They should be

[Viewpoint]

The Turkish settlers entered Cyprus illegally , since Cyprus is recognised the world over as the legitimate sovereignty over all of Cyprus. Importing 40 thousand occupying troops and allowing the settlement of Turkish citizens into Cyprus is illegal . The T/Cs , most of them , see it as such. They are under the occupation of a foreign country.

Copperline , as usual offers his own brand of what constitutes legal and illegal behaviour.
The fact of the matter is that the settlers entered Cyprus illegally via entry points controlled by the occupying army.

Can you provide proof or do we have to just trust you?

Yes I can : UNITED NATIONS , EUROPEAN UNION , ALL INTERNATIONAL ENTITIES AND THE MAJORITY OF TURKISH CYPRIOTS WHO HAVE LEFT THE ISLAND BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE OCCUPATION AND CORRUPTION.
What other proof would you like VP ? The occupying power is the only one recognising a corrupt system . ALL THE WORLD , recognises the Roc , not Greek Cyprus NOT South Cyprus but the free Cyprus known as the RoC.

The majority of TC part interests me the most have you spoken to them all?

As a matter of fact I have , and they are all sick and tired of the continued Turkification of their island under occupation , most of them have sworn NEVER to go back just as long as Cyprus is divided. Some have said they would even prefer to live in Cyprus as a minority rather than be under Turkish occupation. Yes mate , I know lots and lots of T/Cs , more than you and Zan put together. I did tell you a few times that in my extended family we have a T/C and his family as part of my family.
They are CYPRIOT Above all else !!

I live in the TRNC maybe possible only just that I know and talk to more TCs than you do.

[zan]

Are Greeks in the "GRSC" Illegal??

They should be

They should be but they have managed to trick the Un and then the EU and the world into recognising them.....

[zan]

The Turkish settlers entered Cyprus illegally , since Cyprus is recognised the world over as the legitimate sovereignty over all of Cyprus. Importing 40 thousand occupying troops and allowing the settlement of Turkish citizens into Cyprus is illegal . The T/Cs , most of them , see it as such. They are under the occupation of a foreign country.

Copperline , as usual offers his own brand of what constitutes legal and illegal behaviour.
The fact of the matter is that the settlers entered Cyprus illegally via entry points controlled by the occupying army.

Can you provide proof or do we have to just trust you?

Yes I can : UNITED NATIONS , EUROPEAN UNION , ALL INTERNATIONAL ENTITIES AND THE MAJORITY OF TURKISH CYPRIOTS WHO HAVE LEFT THE ISLAND BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE OCCUPATION AND CORRUPTION.
What other proof would you like VP ? The occupying power is the only one recognising a corrupt system . ALL THE WORLD , recognises the Roc , not Greek Cyprus NOT South Cyprus but the free Cyprus known as the RoC.

The majority of TC part interests me the most have you spoken to them all?

As a matter of fact I have , and they are all sick and tired of the continued Turkification of their island under occupation , most of them have sworn NEVER to go back just as long as Cyprus is divided. Some have said they would even prefer to live in Cyprus as a minority rather than be under Turkish occupation. Yes mate , I know lots and lots of T/Cs , more than you and Zan put together. I did tell you a few times that in my extended family we have a T/C and his family as part of my family.
They are CYPRIOT Above all else !!

I live in the TRNC maybe possible only just that I know and talk to more TCs than you do.

Not in Mltiades maths it don't VP.....His got nearly a room full....

[Oracle]

Are Greeks in the "GRSC" Illegal??

They should be

Rule number one ... is to convince the rest of the world of your terminology before you assume it is correct!

Your stems are rotting ......