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With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
• Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).

Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report...

Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"…

[Oracle]

With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
• Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).

Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report...

Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"…

.... It's shameful! Every table of Turks and Settlers you find has a load of Turkish Soldiers hidden in the statistics ... whether reliable or unreliable!

No smoke without fire!

[insan]

With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
• Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).

Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report...

Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"…

.... It's shameful! Every table of Turks and Settlers you find has a load of Turkish Soldiers hidden in the statistics ... whether reliable or unreliable!

No smoke without fire!

[Oracle]

With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
• Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).

Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report...

Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"…

.... It's shameful! Every table of Turks and Settlers you find has a load of Turkish Soldiers hidden in the statistics ... whether reliable or unreliable!

No smoke without fire!

Hello dear! Finished work?

Kalinihta ....

[insan]

With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
• Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).

Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report...

Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"…

.... It's shameful! Every table of Turks and Settlers you find has a load of Turkish Soldiers hidden in the statistics ... whether reliable or unreliable!

No smoke without fire!

Hello dear! Finished work?

Kalinihta ....

Hello dear, kalinihta. Still abt 3 and a half hour to go How abt u ? I'm getting confused abt the number of Turkis troops stationed in Cyprus.

The Government Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides, invited to comment on a report by the US Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute which refers to the strengthening of the Turkish army of occupation in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus and on whether the Government has any indication that the number of occupation troops has reached 58,000 soldiers said: “It is clear that there is a continuous strengthening of the Turkish occupation army. The Ministry of Defence has recently quoted the figure of 46,000 Turkish troops. Of course there is a very large number of Turkish troops in Cyprus. I do not know if it has reached 56,000. This is what the Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute based in Virginia, US says, I have seen the news report today, and it also says that there are American weapons. It is well known that there many American weapons and armaments at the disposal of the occupation army. This proves one more time what we have been saying about the illegality of the continuing occupation and the illegality of the regime which is based on the bayonets of the Turkish occupation army.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... endocument


It seems either Turks going paranoiac or the Greeks

[bill cobbett]

With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
• Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).

Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report...

Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"…

.... It's shameful! Every table of Turks and Settlers you find has a load of Turkish Soldiers hidden in the statistics ... whether reliable or unreliable!

No smoke without fire!

Hello dear! Finished work?

Kalinihta ....

Hello dear, kalinihta. Still abt 3 and a half hour to go How abt u ? I'm getting confused abt the number of Turkis troops stationed in Cyprus.

The Government Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides, invited to comment on a report by the US Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute which refers to the strengthening of the Turkish army of occupation in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus and on whether the Government has any indication that the number of occupation troops has reached 58,000 soldiers said: “It is clear that there is a continuous strengthening of the Turkish occupation army. The Ministry of Defence has recently quoted the figure of 46,000 Turkish troops. Of course there is a very large number of Turkish troops in Cyprus. I do not know if it has reached 56,000. This is what the Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute based in Virginia, US says, I have seen the news report today, and it also says that there are American weapons. It is well known that there many American weapons and armaments at the disposal of the occupation army. This proves one more time what we have been saying about the illegality of the continuing occupation and the illegality of the regime which is based on the bayonets of the Turkish occupation army.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/All/7768471AACA444C0C22570BB002EAEE7?Opendocument


It seems either Turks going paranoiac or the Greeks

The document in this link is dated 16/11/2005.

[insan]

With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
• Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).

Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report...

Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"…

.... It's shameful! Every table of Turks and Settlers you find has a load of Turkish Soldiers hidden in the statistics ... whether reliable or unreliable!

No smoke without fire!

Hello dear! Finished work?

Kalinihta ....

Hello dear, kalinihta. Still abt 3 and a half hour to go How abt u ? I'm getting confused abt the number of Turkis troops stationed in Cyprus.

The Government Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides, invited to comment on a report by the US Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute which refers to the strengthening of the Turkish army of occupation in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus and on whether the Government has any indication that the number of occupation troops has reached 58,000 soldiers said: “It is clear that there is a continuous strengthening of the Turkish occupation army. The Ministry of Defence has recently quoted the figure of 46,000 Turkish troops. Of course there is a very large number of Turkish troops in Cyprus. I do not know if it has reached 56,000. This is what the Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute based in Virginia, US says, I have seen the news report today, and it also says that there are American weapons. It is well known that there many American weapons and armaments at the disposal of the occupation army. This proves one more time what we have been saying about the illegality of the continuing occupation and the illegality of the regime which is based on the bayonets of the Turkish occupation army.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/All/7768471AACA444C0C22570BB002EAEE7?Opendocument


It seems either Turks going paranoiac or the Greeks

The document in this link is dated 16/11/2005.

so, number of Turkish troops reduced or increased?

[bill cobbett]

With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
• Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).

Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report...

Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"…

.... It's shameful! Every table of Turks and Settlers you find has a load of Turkish Soldiers hidden in the statistics ... whether reliable or unreliable!

No smoke without fire!

Hello dear! Finished work?

Kalinihta ....

Hello dear, kalinihta. Still abt 3 and a half hour to go How abt u ? I'm getting confused abt the number of Turkis troops stationed in Cyprus.

The Government Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides, invited to comment on a report by the US Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute which refers to the strengthening of the Turkish army of occupation in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus and on whether the Government has any indication that the number of occupation troops has reached 58,000 soldiers said: “It is clear that there is a continuous strengthening of the Turkish occupation army. The Ministry of Defence has recently quoted the figure of 46,000 Turkish troops. Of course there is a very large number of Turkish troops in Cyprus. I do not know if it has reached 56,000. This is what the Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute based in Virginia, US says, I have seen the news report today, and it also says that there are American weapons. It is well known that there many American weapons and armaments at the disposal of the occupation army. This proves one more time what we have been saying about the illegality of the continuing occupation and the illegality of the regime which is based on the bayonets of the Turkish occupation army.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/All/7768471AACA444C0C22570BB002EAEE7?Opendocument


It seems either Turks going paranoiac or the Greeks

The document in this link is dated 16/11/2005.

so, number of Turkish troops reduced or increased?

Not sure that the actual number on the Island is terribly important. They can be reinforced in a matter of hours. Sure there are contigency plans to do this.

[insan]

With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
• Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).

Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report...

Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"…

.... It's shameful! Every table of Turks and Settlers you find has a load of Turkish Soldiers hidden in the statistics ... whether reliable or unreliable!

No smoke without fire!

Hello dear! Finished work?

Kalinihta ....

Hello dear, kalinihta. Still abt 3 and a half hour to go How abt u ? I'm getting confused abt the number of Turkis troops stationed in Cyprus.

The Government Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides, invited to comment on a report by the US Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute which refers to the strengthening of the Turkish army of occupation in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus and on whether the Government has any indication that the number of occupation troops has reached 58,000 soldiers said: “It is clear that there is a continuous strengthening of the Turkish occupation army. The Ministry of Defence has recently quoted the figure of 46,000 Turkish troops. Of course there is a very large number of Turkish troops in Cyprus. I do not know if it has reached 56,000. This is what the Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute based in Virginia, US says, I have seen the news report today, and it also says that there are American weapons. It is well known that there many American weapons and armaments at the disposal of the occupation army. This proves one more time what we have been saying about the illegality of the continuing occupation and the illegality of the regime which is based on the bayonets of the Turkish occupation army.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/All/7768471AACA444C0C22570BB002EAEE7?Opendocument


It seems either Turks going paranoiac or the Greeks

The document in this link is dated 16/11/2005.

so, number of Turkish troops reduced or increased?

Not sure that the actual number on the Island is terribly important. They can be reinforced in a matter of hours. Sure there are contigency plans to do this.

Oddly enough, I've been googling this institute for abt half an hour but couldn't find it. It seems only Canada and TRNC have an institute called Defence and Foreign Affairs.

[utu]

Oddly enough, I've been googling this institute for abt half an hour but couldn't find it. It seems only Canada and TRNC have an institute called Defence and Foreign Affairs.

Yay Canada!