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What Percentage for each community?

European Union Principals
4
40%
Other to be negotiated
6
60%
 
Total votes : 10

Postby Oracle » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:04 pm

Y oh Y oh Y ...

This is the idiot that thinks there are more than ONE countries that have Cyprus villages.

His partitionist agenda will come out drip by drip.
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Postby Cem » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:14 pm

Office of the President of the new Republic of Cyprus is....here:


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By way of his immense contributions to Cyprus Forum, Get Real is running for presidency....
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:17 pm

A wise man by the name of Albert Camus once said…

“When injustice becomes law, revolt becomes moral duty…”

...and although it always takes fools a lot longer to appreciate this quote eventually EVERYONE comes to the realization that unjust stupidities quite simply...

DO NOT WORK!
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Postby YFred » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:18 pm

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Your poll is based on the assumption that everyone agrees with a community based political arrangement in the 21st century! :roll:

As if someone agreed with a community based political arrangement in the 19th or 20th century. :lol:

Communal arrangements are methodologies from the middle ages but civilization has since moved on to nationwide democracy…


The question is very simple and you guys are complicating it. The negotiations may be taking place currently to agree on a percentage of split in terms of length of time in office to be included in the constitution.

1 Either you agree on a European way – equal length served no matter what size population

2 Or a different percentage depending on population to be negotiated.

3 The only other consideration is two states.

Lets play the devils advocate and say if there is an agreement which one would you favour? But lets here some arguments for and against each one, as well as reasons and suggestions please.

What the current president of Cyprus agrees to is one thing, and what ends up getting approved and accepted is entirely another.

The only two REALISTIC outcomes in this day and age are…

1. Democracy
2. War that leads to Democracy.

Trust unkie GR who learns from the past…


All I can say to that is that if there is an agreement and AKEL and DISY actively promote it, and the other side of that coin is two states, I cannot see the Greek Cypriot community refusing it, after considering the political split in the last election.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:19 pm

YFred wrote:All I can say to that is that if there is an agreement and AKEL and DISY actively promote it, and the other side of that coin is two states, I cannot see the Greek Cypriot community refusing it, after considering the political split in the last election.

:? Why, did you go around and asked them?
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Postby Cem » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:20 pm

Cem wrote:Office of the President of the new Republic of Cyprus is....here:


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Re: Office of the President of the new Republic of Cyprus

Postby Piratis » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:25 pm

YFred wrote:How should the Office of the President of the new Republic of Cyprus be split between the to communities. Should we have a new arrangement or should we be using European Union principals. I hope its the latter because it means 50/50.

Come on all Cypriots. Lets hear you.


What you refer to is the European way between countries, not within countries. So it is not applicable for Cyprus which is a country and not a union of separate countries.

Cyprus will use the European principles in the same way they apply within any other EU country, and the TC minority will get what minorities get in any other EU country. This way we will fully apply the European Union principals as they are applied in every other EU country.
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Postby YFred » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:28 pm

Oracle wrote:Y oh Y oh Y ...

This is the idiot that thinks there are more than ONE countries that have Cyprus villages.

His partitionist agenda will come out drip by drip.


Y not! Y not! Y not!

Usual meaningful fantastic contribution as ever.

Congratulations.

Personal attacks are not allowed - Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack.

I thought you may find the first rule of this forum interesting, unless of course it is not Hellenistic in which case it will be ignored like everything else.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:39 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:Y oh Y oh Y ...

This is the idiot that thinks there are more than ONE countries that have Cyprus villages.

His partitionist agenda will come out drip by drip.


Y not! Y not! Y not!

Usual meaningful fantastic contribution as ever.

Congratulations.

Personal attacks are not allowed - Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack.

I thought you may find the first rule of this forum interesting, unless of course it is not Hellenistic in which case it will be ignored like everything else.


It's a personal attack (since you recognised yourself), only if untrue.

Perhaps you need to concentrate on more important rules, such as respecting the Government of the RoC before you hypocritically throw rules at others.
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Re: Office of the President of the new Republic of Cyprus

Postby YFred » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:48 pm

Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:How should the Office of the President of the new Republic of Cyprus be split between the to communities. Should we have a new arrangement or should we be using European Union principals. I hope its the latter because it means 50/50.

Come on all Cypriots. Lets hear you.


What you refer to is the European way between countries, not within countries. So it is not applicable for Cyprus which is a country and not a union of separate countries.

Cyprus will use the European principles in the same way they apply within any other EU country, and the TC minority will get what minorities get in any other EU country. This way we will fully apply the European Union principals as they are applied in every other EU country.


The problem with your point of view is that Cyprus is already a special case. It is already in that pigeon hole by the treatment of the Turkish Community currently by the EU, with all that went on in the recent past.

The split in the occupation of office may be included in the new constitution to be put in front of the Cypriots whether we like it or not. That’s assuming of course that Talat will win the next election. We may be running out of time on that one because if Eroglu wins, he will do exactly what Dengtas has been doing since time begun. Especially if Turkey gets the impression that there is no EU membership any time soon.
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