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[Pyrpolizer]

The UN document appears to rubber stamp what I have been saying all along about safeguards needed to ensure everyone behaves.

VP, what you've always been saying is in your signature.

As for the safeguards: You may ask for a million safeguards if you like, but don't forget that we can ask for another million ourselves. That's the perfect recipe for NO SOLUTION.

Imo the best safeguard is a democratic constitution, and the existing EU Aquis.

[insan]

"If something is not broken, don't break it.!"

I second this view. How abt if it is already broken? Repair or throw it away or..?

I was of course referring to the US Federal system.!

Now, if you are referring to things in general, some fix it and others get new lovers.!

I got it as for the things in general just to make converstaion. Now u based it on love affairs

I must stop here we went off topic

[Viewpoint]

Happy new year to people in here that I like.
Same to those I dislike.
Same to those I don’t know.
Same to those I bittered, and then regreted.
Same to those I bittered, but never regreted.
Happy new year to the winner of the stupid-idiot award too, (…what was his name?)

Anyways, the matter and the meaning of the political equality within the Federal structure has already been agreed and it is this:




Hope this clears up some funny ideas most TCs have about this concept. The same goes for some GC stomachs who refuse to digest it.

Welcome back stranger and Happy New Year to you too my friend.

I'm in the process of writing a full explanation of how the above Federal structure USA style can be implemented to safeguard every one's political rights as well as their Democratic and Human Rights. I'll post it soon.

I hope you will be staying for a while.!

Hope u won't skip the part how USA evolved from confederation to federation.

There's no need to re-invent the wheel here Insan. The Americans have perfected their Federal system, so there's no need to go back to the "stone-age" times when we can take it over for ourselves from here and now times.!

The UN document appears to rubber stamp what I have been saying all along about safeguards needed to ensure everyone behaves.

VP,

Would you agree that the 1960 Constitution had all the "safeguards" the TC's wanted, albeit at the expense of the overwhelming majority, and would you also agree, that it did not provide the protections we thought we had, and it's not because the GC's did not keep up their end of the bargain, it's because it went against all human nature of fairness and justice, and that's the reason why those "safeguards" did not work. AP was the same if not worse. What we need is fairness with "safeguards" and a True Federation can deliver that.

If everyone had stuck to the agreement it would have worked but the GCs did not want it to work they even put forward the changes they demanded and unless those were met they would not play ball, this time if such an attmept is made the island should be divided fullstop no buts of ifs.

[Viewpoint]

The UN document appears to rubber stamp what I have been saying all along about safeguards needed to ensure everyone behaves.

VP, what you've always been saying is in your signature.

As for the safeguards: You may ask for a million safeguards if you like, but don't forget that we can ask for another million ourselves. That's the perfect recipe for NO SOLUTION.

Imo the best safeguard is a democratic constitution, and the existing EU Aquis.

Can you refrain from responding to my posts as I will yours.

[Kikapu]

"If something is not broken, don't break it.!"

I second this view. How abt if it is already broken? Repair or throw it away or..?

I was of course referring to the US Federal system.!

Now, if you are referring to things in general, some fix it and others get new lovers.!

I got it as for the things in general just to make converstaion. Now u based it on love affairs

I must stop here we went off topic

Seems to happen quite a lot around here.!

[Kikapu]

If everyone had stuck to the agreement it would have worked but the GCs did not want it to work they even put forward the changes they demanded and unless those were met they would not play ball, this time if such an attmept is made the island should be divided fullstop no buts of ifs.

Well, that will never fly to make such a clear cut agreement, since it can easily be manipulated by either side who wants out.

[Viewpoint]

If everyone had stuck to the agreement it would have worked but the GCs did not want it to work they even put forward the changes they demanded and unless those were met they would not play ball, this time if such an attmept is made the island should be divided fullstop no buts of ifs.

Well, that will never fly to make such a clear cut agreement, since it can easily be manipulated by either side who wants out.

The penalities this time should be deterrants for both sides.

[Pyrpolizer]

Oracle, just to finalise the matter.It is true that the number of "real" TCs is getting less and less. In fact I even mentioned that when I told Insan that their "new Cypriots"=settlers, now outnumber them by 7:6 if not 8:6.

So if you are referring to the percentage of real TCs compared to the the total of GCs then even your 12% (1995 est) is too high. Propably the real TCs are not even 9% of the total TODAY.
Propably TC members can give you figures of how TC emmigration evolved during the past decade.They did that for economic reasons and the vast majority of them will repatriate if there will be a solution soon. There are large numbers of them in Turkey and UK who can'' wait for the day the will pack everything and leave.

So their percentage is estimated to become more or less the same as it was before. It will be a tragedy for us
to have the TCs be repaced by settlers, TCs are like us, the settlers are totally different culture and too many of them uneducated.

[Pyrpolizer]

If everyone had stuck to the agreement it would have worked but the GCs did not want it to work they even put forward the changes they demanded and unless those were met they would not play ball, this time if such an attmept is made the island should be divided fullstop no buts of ifs.

As if you were angels yourselves....

And what will happen if the GCs stick to the agreement and YOU start creating problems once again?

What will happen if we have Turkey as quarantor and she starts planting bombs killing TCs and then blaming the GCs?

[Viewpoint]

If everyone had stuck to the agreement it would have worked but the GCs did not want it to work they even put forward the changes they demanded and unless those were met they would not play ball, this time if such an attmept is made the island should be divided fullstop no buts of ifs.

As if you were angels yourselves....

And what will happen if the GCs stick to the agreement and YOU start creating problems once again?

What will happen if we have Turkey as quarantor and she starts planting bombs killing TCs and then blaming the GCs?

Were we on speaking terms? can you refrain from responding to my posts.