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[Kikapu]

Happy new year to people in here that I like.
Same to those I dislike.
Same to those I don’t know.
Same to those I bittered, and then regreted.
Same to those I bittered, but never regreted.
Happy new year to the winner of the stupid-idiot award too, (…what was his name?)

Anyways, the matter and the meaning of the political equality within the Federal structure has already been agreed and it is this:




Hope this clears up some funny ideas most TCs have about this concept. The same goes for some GC stomachs who refuse to digest it.

Welcome back stranger and Happy New Year to you too my friend.

I'm in the process of writing a full explanation of how the above Federal structure USA style can be implemented to safeguard every one's political rights as well as their Democratic and Human Rights. I'll post it soon.

I hope you will be staying for a while.!

Hope u won't skip the part how USA evolved from confederation to federation.

Was that before the Ottomam empire or after?

It doesn't matter when was it. The matter is USA evolved from confederation to federation. The reason they first began with confederation has nothing to do with the date.

And that's the reason why we don't want a Confederation for Cyprus, because temptations will be too great to seek for independence and become a sovereign state, which may lead to another war.

And they had their civil war and moved on to become a Federation and we have had our war and it's time to move forward to our Federation.

What else do you want.? We don't have any slaves to free, just a lot of settlers to repatriate to their home land, Turkey.!

[Viewpoint]

Happy new year to people in here that I like.
Same to those I dislike.
Same to those I don’t know.
Same to those I bittered, and then regreted.
Same to those I bittered, but never regreted.
Happy new year to the winner of the stupid-idiot award too, (…what was his name?)

Anyways, the matter and the meaning of the political equality within the Federal structure has already been agreed and it is this:




Hope this clears up some funny ideas most TCs have about this concept. The same goes for some GC stomachs who refuse to digest it.

Welcome back stranger and Happy New Year to you too my friend.

I'm in the process of writing a full explanation of how the above Federal structure USA style can be implemented to safeguard every one's political rights as well as their Democratic and Human Rights. I'll post it soon.

I hope you will be staying for a while.!

Hope u won't skip the part how USA evolved from confederation to federation.

There's no need to re-invent the wheel here Insan. The Americans have perfected their Federal system, so there's no need to go back to the "stone-age" times when we can take it over for ourselves from here and now times.!

The UN document appears to rubber stamp what I have been saying all along about safeguards needed to ensure everyone behaves.

[insan]

Happy new year to people in here that I like.
Same to those I dislike.
Same to those I don’t know.
Same to those I bittered, and then regreted.
Same to those I bittered, but never regreted.
Happy new year to the winner of the stupid-idiot award too, (…what was his name?)

Anyways, the matter and the meaning of the political equality within the Federal structure has already been agreed and it is this:




Hope this clears up some funny ideas most TCs have about this concept. The same goes for some GC stomachs who refuse to digest it.

Welcome back stranger and Happy New Year to you too my friend.

I'm in the process of writing a full explanation of how the above Federal structure USA style can be implemented to safeguard every one's political rights as well as their Democratic and Human Rights. I'll post it soon.

I hope you will be staying for a while.!

Hope u won't skip the part how USA evolved from confederation to federation.

Was that before the Ottomam empire or after?

It doesn't matter when was it. The matter is USA evolved from confederation to federation. The reason they first began with confederation has nothing to do with the date.

And that's the reason why we don't want a Confederation for Cyprus, because temptations will be too great to seek for independence and become a sovereign state, which may lead to another war.

And they had their civil war and moved on to become a Federation and we have had our war and it's time to move forward to our Federation.

What else do you want.? We don't have any slaves to free, just a lot of settlers to repatriate to their home land, Turkey.!

Did I imply that i want anything else? why u r tended so much to use every opportunity to change ur attitude into an attacking style?

Ok. Doesn't matter. Let's move forward to our federation. I'm looking forward to hear abt it.

[Pyrpolizer]

It doesn't matter when was it. The matter is USA evolved from confederation to federation. The reason they first began with confederation has nothing to do with the date.

It does because you can't really expect from us to go back to the way countries were formed 300 years ago.

Jeez we are ALREADY a EUROPEAN 21st Century Country now, we will not even accept the formation of a new partnership state from virgin birth of 2 existing states. If anything will ever happen it has to be a transformation of the existing Republic into a Federal structure.
Confederal (?) just forget it....

We want a solution not an experiment, with a 99% risk factor to lose even the one and only thing we have now!

[Kikapu]

Happy new year to people in here that I like.
Same to those I dislike.
Same to those I don’t know.
Same to those I bittered, and then regreted.
Same to those I bittered, but never regreted.
Happy new year to the winner of the stupid-idiot award too, (…what was his name?)

Anyways, the matter and the meaning of the political equality within the Federal structure has already been agreed and it is this:




Hope this clears up some funny ideas most TCs have about this concept. The same goes for some GC stomachs who refuse to digest it.

Welcome back stranger and Happy New Year to you too my friend.

I'm in the process of writing a full explanation of how the above Federal structure USA style can be implemented to safeguard every one's political rights as well as their Democratic and Human Rights. I'll post it soon.

I hope you will be staying for a while.!

Hope u won't skip the part how USA evolved from confederation to federation.

Was that before the Ottomam empire or after?

It doesn't matter when was it. The matter is USA evolved from confederation to federation. The reason they first began with confederation has nothing to do with the date.

And that's the reason why we don't want a Confederation for Cyprus, because temptations will be too great to seek for independence and become a sovereign state, which may lead to another war.

And they had their civil war and moved on to become a Federation and we have had our war and it's time to move forward to our Federation.

What else do you want.? We don't have any slaves to free, just a lot of settlers to repatriate to their home land, Turkey.!

Did I imply that i want anything else? why u r tended so much to use every opportunity to change ur attitude into an attacking style?

Ok. Doesn't matter. Let's move forward to our federation. I'm looking forward to hear abt it.

I was not attacking you and if it came across that way, I apologise. I was merely asking, what else do you want, as if Federation is not enough, considering that's what's on the table for us right now. As I said, why re-invent the wheel.!

"If something is not broken, don't break it.!"

[Pyrpolizer]

Precisely! ... There is no meaning to political equality between two groups, one of which is represented by 85% of the civilians and the other by a mere, laughable 12%. Wake up, you are a tiny proportion of a multicultural society. Accept, and fit in; otherwise depart for more suitable political climes

Where did you get those numbers from?
a)Last official census GC 78% TCs 18% others 4%.

b)Anan plan voting: The number of "TC" votes where about 33%!!! of the GC votes. Of course "TC" = TC + setlers who voted

Regardless, an 18% population even under normal conditions is not something you can ignore.You need some possitive discrimination to fix things. The situation we are now is far from normal, so the concept of political equality (as described by UN resolutions) under a Federal structure, is the equivalent of THAT possitive discrimination.

I am very sorry to say that unfortunately the majority of TCs, did not appreciate this GC concession, and they think they can go even further from that...

It all has to be backed with Credible Evidence now, thanks to GR!

Not like your day, when you espoused "genetic" racial theories without a shred of evidence ... then disappeared when you didn't like the research results!

Those numbers are from the most credible of sources (GR!) ...

Here:

Cyprus Profile from the UN…
http://www.un.int/cyprus/profile.htm

Read 'em and weep ....

Yeah, I am already weeping by the 1995 est. figures...

[Oracle]

Precisely! ... There is no meaning to political equality between two groups, one of which is represented by 85% of the civilians and the other by a mere, laughable 12%. Wake up, you are a tiny proportion of a multicultural society. Accept, and fit in; otherwise depart for more suitable political climes

Where did you get those numbers from?
a)Last official census GC 78% TCs 18% others 4%.

b)Anan plan voting: The number of "TC" votes where about 33%!!! of the GC votes. Of course "TC" = TC + setlers who voted

Regardless, an 18% population even under normal conditions is not something you can ignore.You need some possitive discrimination to fix things. The situation we are now is far from normal, so the concept of political equality (as described by UN resolutions) under a Federal structure, is the equivalent of THAT possitive discrimination.

I am very sorry to say that unfortunately the majority of TCs, did not appreciate this GC concession, and they think they can go even further from that...

It all has to be backed with Credible Evidence now, thanks to GR!

Not like your day, when you espoused "genetic" racial theories without a shred of evidence ... then disappeared when you didn't like the research results!

Those numbers are from the most credible of sources (GR!) ...

Here:

Cyprus Profile from the UN…
http://www.un.int/cyprus/profile.htm

Read 'em and weep ....

Yeah, I am already weeping by the 1995 est. figures...

Do you think the TC numbers have gone up or down since then?

After all, 1 or 2% is neither here nor there for GCs, but TCs getting below double digits .....

[Kikapu]

Happy new year to people in here that I like.
Same to those I dislike.
Same to those I don’t know.
Same to those I bittered, and then regreted.
Same to those I bittered, but never regreted.
Happy new year to the winner of the stupid-idiot award too, (…what was his name?)

Anyways, the matter and the meaning of the political equality within the Federal structure has already been agreed and it is this:




Hope this clears up some funny ideas most TCs have about this concept. The same goes for some GC stomachs who refuse to digest it.

Welcome back stranger and Happy New Year to you too my friend.

I'm in the process of writing a full explanation of how the above Federal structure USA style can be implemented to safeguard every one's political rights as well as their Democratic and Human Rights. I'll post it soon.

I hope you will be staying for a while.!

Hope u won't skip the part how USA evolved from confederation to federation.

There's no need to re-invent the wheel here Insan. The Americans have perfected their Federal system, so there's no need to go back to the "stone-age" times when we can take it over for ourselves from here and now times.!

The UN document appears to rubber stamp what I have been saying all along about safeguards needed to ensure everyone behaves.

VP,

Would you agree that the 1960 Constitution had all the "safeguards" the TC's wanted, albeit at the expense of the overwhelming majority, and would you also agree, that it did not provide the protections we thought we had, and it's not because the GC's did not keep up their end of the bargain, it's because it went against all human nature of fairness and justice, and that's the reason why those "safeguards" did not work. AP was the same if not worse. What we need is fairness with "safeguards" and a True Federation can deliver that.

[insan]

"If something is not broken, don't break it.!"

I second this view. How abt if it is already broken? Repair or throw it away or..?

[Kikapu]

"If something is not broken, don't break it.!"

I second this view. How abt if it is already broken? Repair or throw it away or..?

I was of course referring to the US Federal system.!

Now, if you are referring to things in general, some fix it and others get new lovers.!