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[RAFAELLA]

‘Mystery backers’ helping Orams fight
By Jean Christou

THE British couple at the centre of a legal battle over their purchase of Greek Cypriot property in the north are to receive help from a mystery financial backer, Turkish Cypriot papers have reported.

Under the title “Mystery backer to boost Orams fight”, Turkish Cypriot weekly Cyprus Today quoted Linda Orams, 62, saying she and her 64-year old husband David were receiving financial help from “people with an interest in North Cyprus” to pay their mounting legal bills.

“We have backers who wish to remain anonymous’, said Mrs Orams. “This is about politics – it is not really about us. We have just been caught up in it.”

Last month in a non-binding opinion, the Advocate General of the Court of Justice of the European Communities said the Orams should demolish the house they built on land in Lapithos belonging to Greek Cypriot refugee Meletios Apostolides.

Apostolides had lost his battle to win back his land through the UK courts in September 2006 after a judge ruled that the earlier Nicosia court decision to evict the British couple was unenforceable due to protocol 10, which suspends the EU acquis in the north.

But Advocate General of the Court of Justice of the European Communities, Juliane Kokkot, said a judgment issued by a court of the Republic of Cyprus must be recognised and enforced in the other EU member states, even where it relates to land in the occupied areas.

Although Kokkot’s opinion is not biding on the Court’s judges, in 85 per cent of cases they do follow the recommendations of the Advocate General.

A decision is expected in the next three to six months.

Baris Mamali, Chairman of the Turkish Cypriot bar association, said residents of the north could pay a heavy price if the ruling went against the Orams.

“The British Court of Appeal has referred the issue to the Court of Justice for an opinion in order to be able to make a decision on whether the ruling of the Greek Cypriot court can be implemented. The decision will be an intermediary decision and will be binding,” he told Cyprus Today.

“If the European Court of Justice rules that such cases can be implemented in all EU member states it is obvious that such a decision will cause great upheaval in our society. Dangerous days will be in store for many of our citizens,” he added.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008
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Για χρηματοδότες με συμφέροντα στα κατεχόμενα μίλησε η Λίντα Όραμς
Έχει σπόνσορες το ζεύγος Όραμς

Το αυτονόητο παραδέχθηκε η Λίντα Όραμς, η οποία επιβεβαίωσε τις πληροφορίες που την ήθελαν να «σπονσάρεται» προκειμένου να αντεπεξέλθει στη νομική μάχη έναντι του Μ. Αποστολίδη. Σε δηλώσεις της στην «Cyprus Today» παραδέχθηκε ότι τυγχάνει οικονομικής στήριξης, λέγοντας πως η βοήθεια για αποπληρωμή των δυσβάσταχτων δικηγορικών εξόδων έρχεται «από άτομα που έχουν συμφέροντα στην βόρεια Κύπρο». «Έχουμε υποστηρικτές που επιθυμούν να παραμείνουν ανώνυμοι» είπε.
Να θυμίσουμε ότι στη νομική ομάδα των Όραμς συγκαταλέγεται και η «ακριβή» νομικός Σερί Μπουθ Μπλερ. Τ/κ δημοσιεύματα ανέφεραν ότι τα χρήματα για τα έξοδα έρχονται απευθείας από την τουρκική κυβέρνηση.

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[Oracle]

The Orams' escalating moral decline must be deeply embarrassing to right-minded British folk.

To plead ignorance to the history and politics of the country in which they chose to build a "holiday home" can be almost forgivable. But to relentlessly pursue to justify their crime, merely exposes their degenerated state, as well as those who help them, such as Cherie Blair.

Accepting money from some unknown corrupting source, to buy them tainted justice, disgraces them yet further, and all who deal with them.

"Out, damned spot." ... they will never wash the guilt from their hands!

[zan]

The Orams' escalating moral decline must be deeply embarrassing to right-minded British folk.

To plead ignorance to the history and politics of the country in which they chose to build a "holiday home" can be almost forgivable. But to relentlessly pursue to justify their crime, merely exposes their degenerated state, as well as those who help them, such as Cherie Blair.

Accepting money from some unknown corrupting source, to buy them tainted justice, disgraces them yet further, and all who deal with them.

"Out, damned spot." ... they will never wash the guilt from their hands!

What is better is that it will highlight your crimes against the TC people.......

[RAFAELLA]

What is better is that it will highlight your crimes against the TC people.......

[Oracle]

What is better is that it will highlight your crimes against the TC people.......

It's Zan-Logic!

[wallace]

The Orams' escalating moral decline must be deeply embarrassing to right-minded British folk.

To plead ignorance to the history and politics of the country in which they chose to build a "holiday home" can be almost forgivable. But to relentlessly pursue to justify their crime, merely exposes their degenerated state, as well as those who help them, such as Cherie Blair.

Accepting money from some unknown corrupting source, to buy them tainted justice, disgraces them yet further, and all who deal with them.

"Out, damned spot." ... they will never wash the guilt from their hands!

What is better is that it will highlight your crimes against the TC people.......

What crimes?

[zan]

What is better is that it will highlight your crimes against the TC people.......

At least you have had a warning....Otherwise yours eyes would open up even more than that emoticon....

[Kikapu]

I was talking to my TC brother in law the other day from the UK, which he informed me, that there are a lot of UK TC's who have bought GC properties in the north and now were getting very nervous with the above legal opinion. First the GC properties are about to become "radioactive" where no one will want to buy it off them, and secondly, they are worried, that they believe in the last 5+ years since the crossings have been opened, that the RoC authorities have compiled the names of all the "new" owners of the GC properties and that they are now afraid, that once this legal opinion becomes law, they will be getting a knock on the door to be served with court papers to appear in Nicosia courts. I guess one can serve court papers anywhere within the EU club. Perhaps someone can clarify that for us. Anyway, the reason why he feels that the RoC knows who are all these who bought GC properties, is because my B-I-L knows a TC lady with 4 children from a man she married who is a settler, was refused entry for the children into the RoC because she was told that the children were from a settler, but she was allowed to cross if she wanted. So the question is, how does the RoC know for sure who the TC woman is married to, since the husband was not with them at the time of the crossing when this incident occurred.?? If the RoC knows who she is married to, they must also know all those who bought GC properties in the north.

[zan]

I was talking to my TC brother in law the other day from the UK, which he informed me, that there are a lot of UK TC's who have bought GC properties in the north and now were getting very nervous with the above legal opinion. First the GC properties are about to become "radioactive" where no one will want to buy it off them, and secondly, they are worried, that they believe in the last 5+ years since the crossings have been opened, that the RoC authorities have compiled the names of all the "new" owners of the GC properties and that they are now afraid, that once this legal opinion becomes law, they will be getting a knock on the door to be served with court papers to appear in Nicosia courts. I guess one can serve court papers anywhere within the EU club. Perhaps someone can clarify that for us. Anyway, the reason why he feels that the RoC knows who are all these who bought GC properties, is because my B-I-L knows a TC lady with 4 children from a man she married who is a settler, was refused entry for the children into the RoC because she was told that the children were from a settler, but she was allowed to cross if she wanted. So the question is, how does the RoC know for sure who the TC woman is married to, since the husband was not with them at the time of the crossing when this incident occurred.?? If the RoC knows who she is married to, they must also know all those who bought GC properties in the north.

They are the last ones to worry about this Kikapu.....The "RoC" cannot touch them...The Orams case will be contested and as the EU have decreed all other claims have to be exhausted by the property commission in the TRNC first.

At worst they will still be living in their homes.....There is no short cut to the property problem short of a solution.

[miltiades]

The Orams' escalating moral decline must be deeply embarrassing to right-minded British folk.

To plead ignorance to the history and politics of the country in which they chose to build a "holiday home" can be almost forgivable. But to relentlessly pursue to justify their crime, merely exposes their degenerated state, as well as those who help them, such as Cherie Blair.

Accepting money from some unknown corrupting source, to buy them tainted justice, disgraces them yet further, and all who deal with them.

"Out, damned spot." ... they will never wash the guilt from their hands!

What is better is that it will highlight your crimes against the TC people.......

What crimes?

Crimes such as expelling by force 200 thousand Cypriots , changing demographics of the Northern part of Cyprus by bringing thousands of settlers , selling properties to people like the Orams , and maintaining on Cypriot soil 40 thousand occupying troops. Oh lets not forget the gradual "extermination" of the species known thus far as T/Cs.