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[Kifeas]

Is the reason you are asking, because you want to consider joining?

When you tell me that you managed to convince Erolz for even one importand thing, then I might.( if you make the meeting on a weekend or in limassol )

Can you claim that you have ever convinced anyone of the TCs in this forum via your postings and arguments on any such issue?

[Piratis]

Can you claim that you have ever convinced anyone of the TCs in this forum via your postings and arguments on any such issue?

Some TCs that don't have as an aim the partition (standard or disguised) can be convinced. No offence, but I don't thing this group includes Erolz.

[-mikkie2-]

I am in Cyprus at the moment but unfortunately I am leaving on the 31st of May so I can't participate.

[Kifeas]

Can you claim that you have ever convinced anyone of the TCs in this forum via your postings and arguments on any such issue?

Some TCs that don't have as an aim the partition (standard or disguised) can be convinced. No offence, but I don't thing this group includes Erolz.

I think you make a mistake here. I do not think Erol is among those who necessarily favour partition, be it standard or disguised.

[erolz]

You know erolz, when I was younger I dreamed of a better world. Then I found out the factor called "human nature" and I learned about the dirty politics driven by the interests of tiny elites.

Now I believe its all about power politics and everything else matters very little.

When I was younger I dreamed of a better world. Now I am older I still dream of a better world. I hope I die in a better world or still dreaming of a better world.

[erolz]

I think you make a mistake here. I do not think Erol is among those who necessarily favour partition, be it standard or disguised.

Ah but you have the advantage of knowing me better by having met me in person

[Piratis]

I hope I die in a better world or still dreaming of a better world.

Maybe you should say that you dream something better for you because the violations of our human and democratic rights that you support are not better for us.

This is the human nature I was talking about. You want something better for you, and yet you have the illusion that what you dream about is better for everybody. Illusions can make us feel better, but the fact is that the "better world" does not exist since we can not agree on how a better world should be, let alone apply anything that would make this world a better one.

[erolz]

Maybe you should say that you dream something better for you because the violations of our human and democratic rights that you support are not better for us.

You have no idea what I dream off and frankly you have no desire to really know what I dream off. You prefer to choose what you want to believe I dream off such that it fits your own purposes.

For yor information I dream of a world where 2/3 of the people of the world do not live in abject poverty, dying from hunger or lack of clean water or basic healthcare so that the other 1/3 can in live surrounded by meaningless material possesions. I dream of a world where developing the greatness in every human being is more important than how much that human being can consume and produce and accumalte private wealth.In short I dream of things much bigger than opressing GC for my own benefit. I dream of them not because they are possible. I dream of them because without dreams we are nothing but souless production consumption cogs in a global machine (imo) and I do not wish to be such a souless cog. That is my human nature.

[turkcyp]

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