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Geopolitical vs Geographic

Postby utu » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:41 am

I was reading a book on the Falklands War, when I came across a section about Argentina claiming not only the Falklands, but also South Georgia, on the grounds that it was a dependency of the Falkland Islands. The British pointed out (correctly) that this was done only because of political convenience, but geographically speaking, the island of South Georgia could not be considered part of the Falkland Islands.

Now, compare this to Cyprus' position in the Meditteranian. The argument about prior settlement aside, is Cyprus geographically part of Turkey or Greece? Cyprus is rather far from the rest of Greece, and close to Turkey - part of it's continental shelf, I believe - and if you cut out Cyprus from a map, the northern coast actually fits pretty well onto the southern coast of Turkey (for those who accept the continental drift theory). It's an interesting comparison... What do you folk think?
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Re: Geopolitical vs Geographic

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:06 am

utu wrote:Cyprus is rather far from the rest of Greece, and close to Turkey - part of it's continental shelf, I believe -

Silly thread… one could've just as easily called Turkey part of Cyprus' continental shelf!
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:22 am

And Turkey's European appendage fits rather nicely to Bulgaria and Greece! And the Hatay fits nicely in Syria. And when you draw in the mountain ranges of Kuristan they make a neat shape on the map.

Leave this kind of thinking aside, it leads to bad places.
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Postby utu » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:13 pm

Nikitas wrote:And Turkey's European appendage fits rather nicely to Bulgaria and Greece! And the Hatay fits nicely in Syria. And when you draw in the mountain ranges of Kuristan they make a neat shape on the map.

Leave this kind of thinking aside, it leads to bad places.


The resons I added this thread was that this paqrticular item could be debated. The Falklands/South Georgiz argument does set a precedent as it clearly is a debate between geopolitical considerations and geographic considerations. Geology is not my forte, but if Cyprus indeed was formed from breaking off from ancient Turkey (geological secession :D), it does lead weight to Turkey's argument of Cyprus being Turkish...

Oh, and GR... I can see where you're coming from. As all continents came from the ancient super-continent of Pangaea, then one could argue tongue-in-cheek - that we should all be under one government... Unlikely, that.
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:23 pm

utu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:And Turkey's European appendage fits rather nicely to Bulgaria and Greece! And the Hatay fits nicely in Syria. And when you draw in the mountain ranges of Kuristan they make a neat shape on the map.

Leave this kind of thinking aside, it leads to bad places.


The resons I added this thread was that this paqrticular item could be debated. The Falklands/South Georgiz argument does set a precedent as it clearly is a debate between geopolitical considerations and geographic considerations. Geology is not my forte, but if Cyprus indeed was formed from breaking off from ancient Turkey (geological secession :D), it does lead weight to Turkey's argument of Cyprus being Turkish...

Oh, and GR... I can see where you're coming from. As all continents came from the ancient super-continent of Pangaea, then one could argue tongue-in-cheek - that we should all be under one government... Unlikely, that.



There is a dinosaur going around saying that it all belongs to him... :lol:
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Postby utu » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:52 pm

zan wrote:There is a dinosaur going around saying that it all belongs to him... :lol:


Pobably two dinosaurs, and they're fighting over it... My money is on the meat-eater.
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:53 pm

utu wrote:
zan wrote:There is a dinosaur going around saying that it all belongs to him... :lol:


Pobably two dinosaurs, and they're fighting over it... My money is on the meat-eater.


Who said one was a female!! :wink: :lol:
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Postby utu » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:55 pm

zan wrote:
utu wrote:
zan wrote:There is a dinosaur going around saying that it all belongs to him... :lol:


Pobably two dinosaurs, and they're fighting over it... My money is on the meat-eater.


Who said one was a female!! :wink: :lol:


Maybe we'd better get off this train before it gets too off-color...
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:56 pm

utu wrote:
zan wrote:
utu wrote:
zan wrote:There is a dinosaur going around saying that it all belongs to him... :lol:


Pobably two dinosaurs, and they're fighting over it... My money is on the meat-eater.


Who said one was a female!! :wink: :lol:


Maybe we'd better get off this train before it gets too off-color...

I was hoping you would say that :oops: :lol:
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Postby kurupetos » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:18 pm

utu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:And Turkey's European appendage fits rather nicely to Bulgaria and Greece! And the Hatay fits nicely in Syria. And when you draw in the mountain ranges of Kuristan they make a neat shape on the map.

Leave this kind of thinking aside, it leads to bad places.


The resons I added this thread was that this paqrticular item could be debated. The Falklands/South Georgiz argument does set a precedent as it clearly is a debate between geopolitical considerations and geographic considerations. Geology is not my forte, but if Cyprus indeed was formed from breaking off from ancient Turkey (geological secession :D), it does lead weight to Turkey's argument of Cyprus being Turkish...

Oh, and GR... I can see where you're coming from. As all continents came from the ancient super-continent of Pangaea, then one could argue tongue-in-cheek - that we should all be under one government... Unlikely, that.


:shock: Priceless! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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