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Self - Determination right and the balance of the powers

Postby insan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:00 am

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... /19/cyprus

Almost nothing has changed in its essence. ;d

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"We have been told that love of honour inspires the Greeks today. In my view, their efforts to persuade the world that they are entitled to Cyprus is the biggest ramp in modern history except, perhaps, the Italian claim to Abyssinia. Cyprus has never in the whole long course of its varied history belonged to Greece and in the Treaty of Lausanne Greece herself acknowledged that the sovereignty should pass to us. If there were to be any revision of that Treaty I think that the only honourable course for Her Majesty's Government to take would be to return Cyprus to Turkey. The attitude of Greece today is quite as hostile to this country as if she had declared war upon us, and that might have been the more honourable course. It will be a very long time before the British people will forget Athens radio."

Just a small extract of the conversation from a very interesting think-tank.
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Re: Self - Determination right and the balance of the powers

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:05 am

insan wrote:http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1956/jul/19/cyprus

Almost nothing has changed in its essence. ;d

Cheers :)

"We have been told that love of honour inspires the Greeks today. In my view, their efforts to persuade the world that they are entitled to Cyprus is the biggest ramp in modern history except, perhaps, the Italian claim to Abyssinia. Cyprus has never in the whole long course of its varied history belonged to Greece and in the Treaty of Lausanne Greece herself acknowledged that the sovereignty should pass to us. If there were to be any revision of that Treaty I think that the only honourable course for Her Majesty's Government to take would be to return Cyprus to Turkey. The attitude of Greece today is quite as hostile to this country as if she had declared war upon us, and that might have been the more honourable course. It will be a very long time before the British people will forget Athens radio."

Just a small extract of the conversation from a very interesting think-tank.


Nice avatar! :D As for the for the post can't say the same! :?
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Postby insan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:31 am

Have u read the whole conversation?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:35 am

insan wrote:Have u read the whole conversation?

I haven't but your thread's title is interesting...

"Self - Determination right "

...who are you implying has such a right?
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Postby insan » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:48 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Have u read the whole conversation?

I haven't but your thread's title is interesting...

"Self - Determination right "

...who are you implying has such a right?


if u read the whole conversation, u will get it. It's really a very cool and multi- dimensional conversation regarding Cyprus issue in the year 1956. After i'd read the whole converstaion i came to a conlusion that nothing has changed in its essence and that's why international community does not force either side much abt the solution of the problem. Though i had this conviction before i read it but 1 more time it was consolidated.

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Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:55 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Have u read the whole conversation?

I haven't but your thread's title is interesting...


You are well known to "debate" without first reading. :roll:

"Self - Determination right "

...who are you implying has such a right?


Read it and find out.
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Re: Self - Determination right and the balance of the powers

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:05 am

insan wrote:Just a small extract of the conversation from a very interesting think-tank.

If this fool and his colleagues could “think” Cyprus wouldn't be in this mess today...
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Re: Self - Determination right and the balance of the powers

Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:49 am

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Just a small extract of the conversation from a very interesting think-tank.

If this fool and his colleagues could “think” Cyprus wouldn't be in this mess today...


If you Greeks could for once keep your word and honour your signature, we definitely would not be in this mess. :roll:
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Re: Self - Determination right and the balance of the powers

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:55 am

doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Just a small extract of the conversation from a very interesting think-tank.

If this fool and his colleagues could “think” Cyprus wouldn't be in this mess today...

If you Greeks could for once keep your word and honour your signature, we definitely would not be in this mess. :roll:

If you want to go by dishonored signatures I might start with that of Turkey's in 1923... Are you sure you want to go in this direction? :lol:
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Re: Self - Determination right and the balance of the powers

Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:08 am

Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Just a small extract of the conversation from a very interesting think-tank.

If this fool and his colleagues could “think” Cyprus wouldn't be in this mess today...

If you Greeks could for once keep your word and honour your signature, we definitely would not be in this mess. :roll:

If you want to go by dishonored signatures I might start with that of Turkey's in 1923... Are you sure you want to go in this direction? :lol:


You could if you want to but even you should know that Turkey had no choice right after the "kurtulus savasi", you Greeks did but never had any intentions of honouring it.

You signed and started you enosis war just three years later. Turkey signed and kept it's word and honoured it's signature for 51 years and only set foot in Cyprus 11 years after you Greeks started the war to fulfill your dream. And even then it never took the whole island or annexed the north although it could have done very easily.

That is the difference between Turkey and you Greeks, they keep their word, you Greeks don't.
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