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Did the “enosis” agenda really justify Turkey’s reactions

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:05 am

Did the “enosis” agenda really justify Turkey’s reactions?

Some of you seem to think that the 20th century GC nostalgia and agenda for enosis with Greece was a justifiable excuse for Turkey to act militarily in one way or another but…

Cyprus in the 20th century was all about a Muslim Ottoman minority being completely out of place on a Christian island as a result of past crimes and stupidities of the Ottomans themselves!

On two occasions serious efforts were made for this minority to be transferred back to their homeland, or what became of it in the form of modern Turkey, yet the majority chose to stay on Cyprus knowing only too well that they now seriously had to blend in with the overwhelming Christian majority and that the Ottoman games were well and truly over!

Therefore, if this predominantly Christian island was to later decide to align itself with another country such as Greece or Iceland for that matter, then it was entirely the overwhelming indigenous majority’s prerogative to do so and for the Muslim Ottoman minority to treat it once again as an opportunity to return to their homeland or go along with it. After all, the indigenous Christian population of Cyprus did not invite or cause this Muslim Ottoman minority to be on this island in this predicament.

If Turkey was so concerned about the fate of this Muslim Ottoman minority why did she not propose to send three-four ships a mere 40 miles across the sea, and take these “unfortunate” people to their homeland where she could squeeze them on her bosom till the cows come home? Surely if you love someone so much you’d want them to be near you and well looked after!

Unfortunately, she did not and decided that these “treasured” people outnumbered by 4 or 5 to one, be provided with arms so that they could “liberate” themselves through an armed struggle!

Now those of you who have read this far and consider yourselves "intelligent" work out the rest of this story…

Regards, GR.
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Re: Did the “enosis” agenda really justify Turkey’s reaction

Postby wallace » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:32 am

Get Real! wrote:Did the “enosis” agenda really justify Turkey’s reactions?

Some of you seem to think that the 20th century GC nostalgia and agenda for enosis with Greece was a justifiable excuse for Turkey to act militarily in one way or another but…

Cyprus in the 20th century was all about a Muslim Ottoman minority being completely out of place on a Christian island as a result of past crimes and stupidities of the Ottomans themselves!

On two occasions serious efforts were made for this minority to be transferred back to their homeland, or what became of it in the form of modern Turkey, yet the majority chose to stay on Cyprus knowing only too well that they now seriously had to blend in with the overwhelming Christian majority and that the Ottoman games were well and truly over!

Therefore, if this predominantly Christian island was to later decide to align itself with another country such as Greece or Iceland for that matter, then it was entirely the overwhelming indigenous majority’s prerogative to do so and for the Muslim Ottoman minority to treat it once again as an opportunity to return to their homeland or go along with it. After all, the indigenous Christian population of Cyprus did not invite or cause this Muslim Ottoman minority to be on this island in this predicament.

If Turkey was so concerned about the fate of this Muslim Ottoman minority why did she not propose to send three-four ships a mere 40 miles across the sea, and take these “unfortunate” people to their homeland where she could squeeze them on her bosom till the cows come home? Surely if you love someone so much you’d want them to be near you and well looked after!

Unfortunately, she did not and decided that these “treasured” people outnumbered by 4 or 5 to one, be provided with arms so that they could “liberate” themselves through an armed struggle!

Now those of you who have read this far and consider yourselves "intelligent" work out the rest of this story…

Regards, GR.


Seconded :lol: :lol:
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Postby CopperLine » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:33 am

work out the rest of this story…


What ? Continue in the same idiotic vein as it has done so far ?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:22 am

CopperLine wrote:
work out the rest of this story…


What ? Continue in the same idiotic vein as it has done so far ?

I suspect it has left you speechless because it makes perfect sense...
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Re: Did the “enosis” agenda really justify Turkey’s reaction

Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:50 am

Get Real! wrote:Did the “enosis” agenda really justify Turkey’s reactions?


Definitely YES!
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Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:53 am

Get Real! wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
work out the rest of this story…


What ? Continue in the same idiotic vein as it has done so far ?

I suspect it has left you speechless because it makes perfect sense...


It only makes sense to the Greeks who tried to gain enosis by force and murdering even it's own citizens.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:13 am

doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
work out the rest of this story…


What ? Continue in the same idiotic vein as it has done so far ?

I suspect it has left you speechless because it makes perfect sense...

It only makes sense to the Greeks who tried to gain enosis by force and murdering even it's own citizens.

The article is asking... why didn't Turkey take you away to the close safety but chose to throw you in a fight against such a monster?
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Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:43 am

Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
work out the rest of this story…


What ? Continue in the same idiotic vein as it has done so far ?

I suspect it has left you speechless because it makes perfect sense...

It only makes sense to the Greeks who tried to gain enosis by force and murdering even it's own citizens.

The article is asking... why didn't Turkey take you away to the close safety but chose to throw you in a fight against such a monster?


Because it's less then 40 miles away and can run to help if the monster becomes too bothersome?

The monster was suppose to be a partner but his greed got the better of him and had to be tamed.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:52 am

doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
work out the rest of this story…

What ? Continue in the same idiotic vein as it has done so far ?

I suspect it has left you speechless because it makes perfect sense...

It only makes sense to the Greeks who tried to gain enosis by force and murdering even it's own citizens.

The article is asking... why didn't Turkey take you away to the close safety but chose to throw you in a fight against such a monster?

Because it's less then 40 miles away and can run to help if the monster becomes too bothersome?

The monster was suppose to be a partner but his greed got the better of him and had to be tamed.

If the monster BECOMES too bothersome???

Surely you weren’t expecting to win without Turkey's help were you… :?:

Do you suppose Turkey ALSO KNEW that you could not win and thus “justify” her coming here? :wink:
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Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:17 am

Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
work out the rest of this story…

What ? Continue in the same idiotic vein as it has done so far ?

I suspect it has left you speechless because it makes perfect sense...

It only makes sense to the Greeks who tried to gain enosis by force and murdering even it's own citizens.

The article is asking... why didn't Turkey take you away to the close safety but chose to throw you in a fight against such a monster?

Because it's less then 40 miles away and can run to help if the monster becomes too bothersome?

The monster was suppose to be a partner but his greed got the better of him and had to be tamed.

If the monster BECOMES too bothersome???


or simply put, a pest.

Surely you weren’t expecting to win without Turkey's help were you… :?:


No but after 11 years of trying, even without Turkey's help, you didn't win either. :wink:

Do you suppose Turkey ALSO KNEW that you could not win and thus “justify” her coming here? :wink:


If you see your little brother or sister getting a kicking by a bunch of bullies I can only assume that you'd go to her aid and slap a few of them. That's exactly what happend after Turkey waited for you to stop, you didn't stop until you got slapped.
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