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[doesntmatter]

How many Greek troops do we have, is it anywhere near 40,000?

What have the British troops got to do with anything relating to our power balance with the occupation forces? Are they under our command?

You don't want to mention the UN forces that we have to call on?

What a load of bollocks.

I'll answer you first before I move on to Rafaella.

Here's a reminder of her question you claim the answer Murataga gave is "a load of bollocks".

[b]1- Name the foreign troops in CyR.[/b]

If you don't understand the question I'd suggest you ask her what she is really asking.

As usual you didn't answer anything.

I want to make sure you understand Rafaella's question first before you jump in and make comments or ask questions.

Again, I suggest you to her and understand her question exactly, then we'll talk.

[doesntmatter]

There are no more than 1500 Greek troops in the south. Saying that this justifies keeping 40 000 Turks in the north, is obviously insinuating that 1500 Greeks are a force they cannot deal with.

What was the "justification" for bringing in 20,000 (confirmed by Papitis) Greek soldiers in to Cyprus to force a handfull of TCs to surrender to your enosis dream?

[Oracle]

There are no more than 1500 Greek troops in the south. Saying that this justifies keeping 40 000 Turks in the north, is obviously insinuating that 1500 Greeks are a force they cannot deal with.

What was the "justification" for bringing in 20,000 (confirmed by Papitis) Greek soldiers in to Cyprus to force a handfull of TCs to surrender to your enosis dream?

They were nearer 8,000, and were needed to counter Turkish Bombardment and Napalming of civilians, in 1964.

[doesntmatter]

There are no more than 1500 Greek troops in the south. Saying that this justifies keeping 40 000 Turks in the north, is obviously insinuating that 1500 Greeks are a force they cannot deal with.

What was the "justification" for bringing in 20,000 (confirmed by Papitis) Greek soldiers in to Cyprus to force a handfull of TCs to surrender to your enosis dream?

They were nearer 8,000,

You Greeks tell so many lies that even the internet is not fast enough for you to spread and update your new propaganda to your comrades.

and were needed to counter Turkish Bombardment and Napalming of civilians, in 1964.

There you go again.

The foreign Greek troops were in Cyprus helping the GCs to murder us TCs before the jets came in and put a stop to the massacres committed against our people.

[doesntmatter]

There are no more than 1500 Greek troops in the south. Saying that this justifies keeping 40 000 Turks in the north, is obviously insinuating that 1500 Greeks are a force they cannot deal with.

Don't forget the 300!!

They never made it to Cyprus.

[Oracle]

The foreign Greek troops were in Cyprus helping the GCs to murder us TCs before the jets came in and put a stop to the massacres committed against our people.

I think this calls for some major validation!

[RAFAELLA]

DM, from what I see you avoid answering my questions by giving a general answer hiding behind Mura's fabricated history comments.

Dear Murataga,

My questions were to doesnt(...whatever) but thank you for taking the time to answer.

"doesnt(...whatever)" is much longer than doesntmatter and takes longer to type, you can call me "DM" if it makes it easier for you.

I wouldn't like to comment now, I'll give you a second chance to more accurate/correct replies.

What is the point of you asking these questions when we all know that any answer that is not to your satisfaction and fits within your agenda will not be "accurate/correct". - an answer that fits my agenda is an answer based on facts and proofs, this is an accurate and correct answer.

I'll also wait for doesnt to reply as well.

My answers are no different to Murataga's except that I would say the foreign troops in the "CyR" are those from Greece only. - You really surprise me! ...and I have another question for you, (that makes us 6 in total): Why the only foreign troops are those of Greece?

Now my question to you is, if you didn't want foreign troops on the island, why did you invite foreign Greek troops to invade the island in 1963/64 in the first place? -...I do not know any Gr troops invading in 1963.

I'm still waiting for your answers to my questions, now 6 in total

[doesntmatter]

DM, from what I see you avoid answering my questions by giving a general answer hiding behind Mura's fabricated history comments.

I am not hiding, my answer would have been exactly the same maybe only worded differently. You can accept them as mine or not, please yourself.

Dear Murataga,

My questions were to doesnt(...whatever) but thank you for taking the time to answer.

"doesnt(...whatever)" is much longer than doesntmatter and takes longer to type, you can call me "DM" if it makes it easier for you.

I wouldn't like to comment now, I'll give you a second chance to more accurate/correct replies.

What is the point of you asking these questions when we all know that any answer that is not to your satisfaction and fits within your agenda will not be "accurate/correct". - an answer that fits my agenda is an answer based on facts and proofs, this is an accurate and correct answer.

Then I suggest you read Murataga's answers and accept them also as my own.

I'll also wait for doesnt to reply as well.

My answers are no different to Murataga's except that I would say the foreign troops in the "CyR" are those from Greece only. - You really surprise me! ...and I have another question for you, (that makes us 6 in total): Why the only foreign troops are those of Greece?

For the simple reason that I write "CyR" in inverted commas and TRNC not.

Now my question to you is, if you didn't want foreign troops on the island, why did you invite foreign Greek troops to invade the island in 1963/64 in the first place? -...I do not know any Gr troops invading in 1963.

Would you admit it even if you did?

BTW, I said 1963/64, you only respoanded to 1963, selective memory or an attempt to wiggle out of giving an honest answer?

I'm still waiting for your answers to my questions, now 6 in total

Even though written by Murataga, you have my answers. If you don't accept them as also my answers then I'm afraid that's your problem.

[RAFAELLA]

DM, from what I see you avoid answering my questions by giving a general answer hiding behind Mura's fabricated history comments.

I am not hiding, my answer would have been exactly the same maybe only worded differently. You can accept them as mine or not, please yourself.

Dear Murataga,

My questions were to doesnt(...whatever) but thank you for taking the time to answer.

"doesnt(...whatever)" is much longer than doesntmatter and takes longer to type, you can call me "DM" if it makes it easier for you.

I wouldn't like to comment now, I'll give you a second chance to more accurate/correct replies.

What is the point of you asking these questions when we all know that any answer that is not to your satisfaction and fits within your agenda will not be "accurate/correct". - an answer that fits my agenda is an answer based on facts and proofs, this is an accurate and correct answer.

Then I suggest you read Murataga's answers and accept them also as my own.

I'll also wait for doesnt to reply as well.

My answers are no different to Murataga's except that I would say the foreign troops in the "CyR" are those from Greece only. - You really surprise me! ...and I have another question for you, (that makes us 6 in total): Why the only foreign troops are those of Greece?

For the simple reason that I write "CyR" in inverted commas and TRNC not.

Now my question to you is, if you didn't want foreign troops on the island, why did you invite foreign Greek troops to invade the island in 1963/64 in the first place? -...I do not know any Gr troops invading in 1963.

Would you admit it even if you did?

BTW, I said 1963/64, you only respoanded to 1963, selective memory or an attempt to wiggle out of giving an honest answer? - I do not have any problem answering any question dear. I didn't write 1963-64 and I wrote 1963, what's the problem? I do not know any Gr troops invading CyR in 1963-64. The only Gr troops I know coming to CyR are those under agreement (consitution) in 1960, an infantry of about 950 men.
I do know though that in 1964 Tr's air force bombed Kokkina, the National Guard and neighboring Gr villages with napalm and threatened to invade.
You say that we invited Gr troops to invade Cy. So, would you be so kind and answer at least this question:
HOW, WHY and FOR WHAT OCCASION DID WE INVITE GR TROOPS TO "INVADE" IN 1963/64?

I'm still waiting for your answers to my questions, now 6 in total

Even though written by Murataga, you have my answers. If you don't accept them as also my answers then I'm afraid that's your problem.

Good morning dear DM!
I must say that you dissapointed me, I thought you can do better than Mura since what he refers to is equal to science fiction
Anyhow, I'll make things easier for you

1 - Name the foreign troops in CyR.
2 - Why these foreign troops are stationed in CyR?
Greek army & British army are in CyR under agreement/constitution. Illegal foreign troops are the occupation forces of your beloved Tr.

3 - Why do the CyR gov buys weapons?
Defence. Tr illegaly occupies part of CyR territory and from time to time threatens to cause more troubles.
EU CyR accesion-Hilmi Ozkiok 31/01/02:
"I would like to note that the Turkish Armed Forces have the power and the determination to achieve any duty to be given to them within a possible crisis. We think that it is necessary that the sides concerned take into consideration that as Turkey we shall strongly oppose a unilateral accession to the EU without establishing a solution based on the equal sovereignty of the two states in the island and contrary to the 1960 international agreements. Such a development will drag the Eastern Mediterranean into a crisis'.
CyR oil exploitation:
After the government of the Republic of Cyprus signed last week an agreement with Lebanon for the facilitation of future oil and gas exploration in the region, following the last year's agreement with Egypt, Turkey and the leadership of the Turkish Cypriot community reacted by launching threats . More specific, Ankara issued several warnings that Cyprus should not go ahead with any plans to explore oil and gas around the island, claiming that "the rights and interests of all parties should be taken into account". Provocations were also reflected by several tension-oriented articles published recently in the Turkish and Turkish Cypriot press on the issue.
What should also be noted is that early reports had claimed that Turkey sent battleships to the region to show that it was determined to "safeguard its rights" in the Eastern Mediterranean. This caused the imminent reaction of several actors of the international community.
European leaders denounce Turkey's war threats against Cyprus
Etc, etc.

4 - Why do Tcs don't want Tr to leave?
From what I know, from genuine Tcs I've met and became friends with, Tcs who became monority due to the imported settlers want Tr to leave and also take the settlers with her back to their caves.

5 - Can you explain what balance needs to be kept?
Only an idiot can tell that there's a balance between Tr army and Cy army.

[Oracle]

The foreign Greek troops were in Cyprus helping the GCs to murder us TCs before the jets came in and put a stop to the massacres committed against our people.

I think this calls for some major validation!

.... and don't forget this bit of homework too!

Doesntmatter needs to Doalotbetter!