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Origin of Lurucina

Postby YFred » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:53 am

Does anyone have any information regarding who by and when was lurucina created. I have seen some historical maps where Lurucina is not mentioned.

Damalia, Lorthis na, Mallura, S. Zorzi are villages between Lurucina and Piroi. What happend to these vilages?

If anyone has any information to share, please do.

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Postby iceman » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:35 am

Lorthis na on your map is todays Louroudjina (Akincilar)

I believe the two dots after Lorthis is not an "s" and the village was named Lorthina.
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Postby iceman » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:57 am

This map also has the village down as Lorthina..
The village and its name is definately from Latin days of Cyprus.


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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:33 pm

I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:15 pm

denizaksulu wrote:I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.


It is interesting to know that Cyprus existed further back than the beginning of your history here, 1571 (BO .... Before Ottomans).

But yes I agree, lovely maps.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:35 pm

The ending -ides is characteristically Greek, not Latin. Elisides would be of Greek etymology.

Was there a swamp nearby? That would justify a name like Elosides, or Eloides. On the other hand Alysides is chains, a name that might have come about if the inhabitnts were blacksmiths or chain makers. Just speculating.

The Cop in Copno denotes a cut, a pass, a gap. As far as I can remember Kophinou is the second pass between hills on the old Nicosia Limassol road. Skarinou being the first one, Kophinou the second.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:16 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.


It is interesting to know that Cyprus existed further back than the beginning of your history here, 1571 (BO .... Before Ottomans).

But yes I agree, lovely maps.



Oracle dearest, do you have to put your mark on all statements one puts here. :lol: Many maps of those days were dated as 1570, but re-printed with added Ottoman flags on them. Some printed at later dates had Latin insignias on them. I am not one to deny Cyprus its history. As a Cypriot I am proud of our history.
I was merely wondering how far back these villages existed. Most made their first appearance on these maps during the sixteenth century, but must have existed long before. Perhaps our Chiroikhitian friend might shed some light on these. :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:21 pm

Nikitas wrote:The ending -ides is characteristically Greek, not Latin. Elisides would be of Greek etymology.

Was there a swamp nearby? That would justify a name like Elosides, or Eloides. On the other hand Alysides is chains, a name that might have come about if the inhabitnts were blacksmiths or chain makers. Just speculating.

The Cop in Copno denotes a cut, a pass, a gap. As far as I can remember Kophinou is the second pass between hills on the old Nicosia Limassol road. Skarinou being the first one, Kophinou the second.



Your analysis makes sense regarding Kophinou.

Elisides in todays language sounds very different from what is written in the Latin printed maps. It sounds more like Anklissides rather than Elisides. I accept that the cartographers might have been Italian and wrote the names suited to their own dialect.

Thanks for the above.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:29 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.


It is interesting to know that Cyprus existed further back than the beginning of your history here, 1571 (BO .... Before Ottomans).

But yes I agree, lovely maps.



Oracle dearest, do you have to put your mark on all statements one puts here. :lol: Many maps of those days were dated as 1570, but re-printed with added Ottoman flags on them. Some printed at later dates had Latin insignias on them. I am not one to deny Cyprus its history. As a Cypriot I am proud of our history.
I was merely wondering how far back these villages existed. Most made their first appearance on these maps during the sixteenth century, but must have existed long before. Perhaps our Chiroikhitian friend might shed some light on these. :wink:


Well how else can I tease out more information from you :D

Are you saying there are no Byzantine Maps of Cyprus? BTW ... have you caught the exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts yet? My son described it as "Skillage!" ... so worth seeing then!

Methinks our Choirokitian friend is nursing a sore head from being out on the razz with the wild bunch :lol:
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Postby zan » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:44 pm

I saw the "Master Chef" program yesterday when one of the presenters congratulated a LEBANESE woman for being clever and using GREEK ingredients in her cooking.....The ingredient was Tahin (Tahini)....I wonder how long the LEBANESE have been using Tahin before they knew it was Greek!!!! :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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