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[Get Real!]

New villages were mainly created by shepherds of an existing nearby village who would start out by building a little shack or two in which they sought refuge during the winters. In time more shepherds would raise a shack next to it and gradually it would become a community and entire families move there to live permanently.

What constituted a village back then is different to what constitutes one today… ie: Two or three shepherd shacks may have been enough to earn a spot on a middle ages map but totally ignored today, etc.

The other issue is that cartography was in its infancy and full of errors. If you compare these old maps with a modern one you’ll find that most towns & villages are out of place, in fact the whole island has the wrong shape and size.

That many names are in Latin only suggests that the cartographer of this map was Latin educated and aimed to present his work to Latin readers. Even the very recent British changed the capital’s name from “Lefkosia” to “Nicosia” to suit their tongues so the change in names shouldn’t be taken too seriously just as the modified Turkish names today shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

It seems that every Tom, Dick, and Harry who landed on Cyprus wanted to reinvent the wheel, yet one by one they fell in the obscurity of history.

[denizaksulu]

I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.

It is interesting to know that Cyprus existed further back than the beginning of your history here, 1571 (BO .... Before Ottomans).

But yes I agree, lovely maps.

Oracle dearest, do you have to put your mark on all statements one puts here. Many maps of those days were dated as 1570, but re-printed with added Ottoman flags on them. Some printed at later dates had Latin insignias on them. I am not one to deny Cyprus its history. As a Cypriot I am proud of our history.
I was merely wondering how far back these villages existed. Most made their first appearance on these maps during the sixteenth century, but must have existed long before. Perhaps our Chiroikhitian friend might shed some light on these.

Well how else can I tease out more information from you

Are you saying there are no Byzantine Maps of Cyprus? BTW ... have you caught the exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts yet? My son described it as "Skillage!" ... so worth seeing then!

Methinks our Choirokitian friend is nursing a sore head from being out on the razz with the wild bunch

Good for our Chiroikitian friend. He knows how to enjoy life.

I have 'The History of the Cartography of Cyprus' by Styllianou. I refer to the Italian made maps simply because place names are more readily recognisable with current names

Thank you for the info re: RAA exhibition. I will check it out.

[Get Real!]

Methinks our Choirokitian friend is nursing a sore head from being out on the razz with the wild bunch

It’s just as well the party had pre-paid Jack Daniels (yuck!) bottles on the tables so nobody has a hangover today!

[halil]

Does anyone have any information regarding who by and when was lurucina created. I have seen some historical maps where Lurucina is not mentioned.

Damalia, Lorthis na, Mallura, S. Zorzi are villages between Lurucina and Piroi. What happend to these vilages?

If anyone has any information to share, please do.

YFred,

did you hear anything about Lüricina Yaşıyor Derneği ?

If you can read Turkish here it is for you from Lüricina (Akıncılar)
http://images.google.com.tr/imgres?imgu ... r%26sa%3DG

[YFred]

I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.

It is interesting to know that Cyprus existed further back than the beginning of your history here, 1571 (BO .... Before Ottomans).

But yes I agree, lovely maps.

Oracle dearest, do you have to put your mark on all statements one puts here. Many maps of those days were dated as 1570, but re-printed with added Ottoman flags on them. Some printed at later dates had Latin insignias on them. I am not one to deny Cyprus its history. As a Cypriot I am proud of our history.
I was merely wondering how far back these villages existed. Most made their first appearance on these maps during the sixteenth century, but must have existed long before. Perhaps our Chiroikhitian friend might shed some light on these.

Well how else can I tease out more information from you

Are you saying there are no Byzantine Maps of Cyprus? BTW ... have you caught the exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts yet? My son described it as "Skillage!" ... so worth seeing then!

Methinks our Choirokitian friend is nursing a sore head from being out on the razz with the wild bunch

Have you tried asking. You may be surprised at the reply.
If you have any maps of any country with cyprus villages please share them. I don't want this forum to develop into point scoring. It would be greatly appriciated if all contributions are of positive nature to help us understand this lovely country of ours.

Thanks

[Oracle]

I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.

It is interesting to know that Cyprus existed further back than the beginning of your history here, 1571 (BO .... Before Ottomans).

But yes I agree, lovely maps.

Oracle dearest, do you have to put your mark on all statements one puts here. Many maps of those days were dated as 1570, but re-printed with added Ottoman flags on them. Some printed at later dates had Latin insignias on them. I am not one to deny Cyprus its history. As a Cypriot I am proud of our history.
I was merely wondering how far back these villages existed. Most made their first appearance on these maps during the sixteenth century, but must have existed long before. Perhaps our Chiroikhitian friend might shed some light on these.

Well how else can I tease out more information from you

Are you saying there are no Byzantine Maps of Cyprus? BTW ... have you caught the exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts yet? My son described it as "Skillage!" ... so worth seeing then!

Methinks our Choirokitian friend is nursing a sore head from being out on the razz with the wild bunch

Have you tried asking. You may be surprised at the reply.
If you have any maps of any country with cyprus villages please share them. I don't want this forum to develop into point scoring. It would be greatly appriciated if all contributions are of positive nature to help us understand this lovely country of ours.

Thanks

What would these countries be, which have Cyprus villages then?

(P.S. Thank Iceman for saving you from ridicule!)

[YFred]

I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.

It is interesting to know that Cyprus existed further back than the beginning of your history here, 1571 (BO .... Before Ottomans).

But yes I agree, lovely maps.

Oracle dearest, do you have to put your mark on all statements one puts here. Many maps of those days were dated as 1570, but re-printed with added Ottoman flags on them. Some printed at later dates had Latin insignias on them. I am not one to deny Cyprus its history. As a Cypriot I am proud of our history.
I was merely wondering how far back these villages existed. Most made their first appearance on these maps during the sixteenth century, but must have existed long before. Perhaps our Chiroikhitian friend might shed some light on these.

Well how else can I tease out more information from you

Are you saying there are no Byzantine Maps of Cyprus? BTW ... have you caught the exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts yet? My son described it as "Skillage!" ... so worth seeing then!

Methinks our Choirokitian friend is nursing a sore head from being out on the razz with the wild bunch

Have you tried asking. You may be surprised at the reply.
If you have any maps of any country with cyprus villages please share them. I don't want this forum to develop into point scoring. It would be greatly appriciated if all contributions are of positive nature to help us understand this lovely country of ours.

Thanks

What would these countries be, which have Cyprus villages then?

(P.S. Thank Iceman for saving you from ridicule!)

So I've used of instead of from. Well done. Pitty you didn' read the rest. So now please go away.

[zan]

I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.

It is interesting to know that Cyprus existed further back than the beginning of your history here, 1571 (BO .... Before Ottomans).

But yes I agree, lovely maps.

Oracle dearest, do you have to put your mark on all statements one puts here. Many maps of those days were dated as 1570, but re-printed with added Ottoman flags on them. Some printed at later dates had Latin insignias on them. I am not one to deny Cyprus its history. As a Cypriot I am proud of our history.
I was merely wondering how far back these villages existed. Most made their first appearance on these maps during the sixteenth century, but must have existed long before. Perhaps our Chiroikhitian friend might shed some light on these.

Well how else can I tease out more information from you

Are you saying there are no Byzantine Maps of Cyprus? BTW ... have you caught the exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts yet? My son described it as "Skillage!" ... so worth seeing then!

Methinks our Choirokitian friend is nursing a sore head from being out on the razz with the wild bunch

Have you tried asking. You may be surprised at the reply.
If you have any maps of any country with cyprus villages please share them. I don't want this forum to develop into point scoring. It would be greatly appriciated if all contributions are of positive nature to help us understand this lovely country of ours.

Thanks

What would these countries be, which have Cyprus villages then?

(P.S. Thank Iceman for saving you from ridicule!)

So I've used of instead of from. Well done. Pitty you didn' read the rest. So now please go away.

Oh! You will have all your work scrutinized by a frustrated school mistress.........Obsessed with it she is!!!

[denizaksulu]

Your use of the Word Lurucadi has sang bells in my ears.

My understanding of the word, it means 'from Lurucina'. However in

Kophinou there also was a family of Lurucadis too. I am (so I am told)

related to them. They has lovely pomegranate trees in their 'orchards'.

The father 'Lurucadi' was killed in an accident when the tractor he was

driving toppled over him in 1958. He had two sons and a handful of daughters.Would that ring a bell?

Regards and sorry for hi-jacking your thread.

[Oracle]

I wonder what Copno(Kophinou) and Elisides(Anglissidhes) meant in Latin. It is interesting to know that our villages existed as far back as 1571.

A lovely map indeed. So much history, which should be preserved.

It is interesting to know that Cyprus existed further back than the beginning of your history here, 1571 (BO .... Before Ottomans).

But yes I agree, lovely maps.

Oracle dearest, do you have to put your mark on all statements one puts here. Many maps of those days were dated as 1570, but re-printed with added Ottoman flags on them. Some printed at later dates had Latin insignias on them. I am not one to deny Cyprus its history. As a Cypriot I am proud of our history.
I was merely wondering how far back these villages existed. Most made their first appearance on these maps during the sixteenth century, but must have existed long before. Perhaps our Chiroikhitian friend might shed some light on these.

Well how else can I tease out more information from you

Are you saying there are no Byzantine Maps of Cyprus? BTW ... have you caught the exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts yet? My son described it as "Skillage!" ... so worth seeing then!

Methinks our Choirokitian friend is nursing a sore head from being out on the razz with the wild bunch

Have you tried asking. You may be surprised at the reply.
If you have any maps of any country with cyprus villages please share them. I don't want this forum to develop into point scoring. It would be greatly appriciated if all contributions are of positive nature to help us understand this lovely country of ours.

Thanks

What would these countries be, which have Cyprus villages then?

(P.S. Thank Iceman for saving you from ridicule!)

So I've used of instead of from. Well done. Pitty you didn' read the rest. So now please go away.

Whether it is of or from makes no difference to your inference that there are more than one countries which have Cyprus villages.

It's not the grammar I am querying but your Geography!

Care to explain this yourself, or is this another of your stupidities that someone else (more rational than Zan ) has to come along and rescue your from?