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Postby doesntmatter » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:48 pm

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Tim Drayton wrote:Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.


Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?


My family had the same problem and my father chose my grandfathers name as the beginning of our Sir name....Some just have not bothered to change what was....I really don't understand what this is all about....My name was the second on the island according to my parents and my research..My mum saw it in a dream where her grandmother came to her and said that something terrible would happen to me if I were not named ******! Add that to my grandfathers name and all I could find of people on the net with the same name is in Turkey....Where do I stand in the grand scheme of exclusion??? I know where some would like but the truth is I am 100% TC....These witch hunts are dangerous. :roll: I am in no mood, and never will be, to have to prove myself over and over again...Walking the streets of Cyprus and fearing the Greek police and having to carry around extra papers to say that I am in fact a TC will only add more flames to the fire.


GCs have similar strange conventions for sorting out their names. My wife has one surname, one of her brothers is the same and the other brother a different one, but all related to their common father.


In the UK that would only be possible if there were two different fathers and not only one.

It's an stupid old tradition that needed changing both in the South and the North.
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Postby skipper » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:40 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.


Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?


I dont know any 2nd or 3rd generation TC's in the UK that use this system because its a pain and causes all kinds of confusion. This has lead to some people having the same firstname and surname like Dervis Dervis because the father named his son after his father but kept his surname (which is his fathers name). Actually I've met a quite a few GCs in the UK too with same first and surnames.
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Postby skipper » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:55 pm

zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.


Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?


My family had the same problem and my father chose my grandfathers name as the beginnings of our Surname....Some just have not bothered to change what was....I really don't understand what this is all about....My name was the second on the island according to my parents and my research..My mum saw it in a dream where her grandmother came to her and said that something terrible would happen to me if I were not named ******! Add that to my grandfathers name and all I could find of people on the net with the same name is in Turkey....Where do I stand in the grand scheme of exclusion??? I know where some would like but the truth is I am 100% TC....These witch hunts are dangerous. :roll: I am in no mood, and never will be, to have to prove myself over and over again...Walking the streets of Cyprus and fearing the Greek police and having to carry around extra papers to say that I am in fact a TC will only add more flames to the fire.


This whole surname issue has got to be the most silliest thing yet, my mother and aunt had diffrerent surnames before they got married because one had my grand fathers surname and the other ther my great grandfathers this was during british rule. My mother took my fathers surname when she got married and my fathers surname was not his fathers name but his grandfathers. This carrying on the surname started way before 74 and atleast on my fathers side during british rule.

Most likely what happened is when Turkey introduced the name reforms some TCs started adopting them too the same way TCs voluntarily adopted western style clothing when Turkey did. There seem to be TCs that hate all Turkish influences in which case I'm sure they'd be happy to go back to wearing Turbans and Headscarfs and using Arabic script.
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Postby halil » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:18 pm

ELECTORAL PROCESS WILL KICK OFF IN FEBRUARY

The Speaker of the Republic’s Assembly Fatma Ekenoglu has provided some information about the electoral process approaching after the announcement for early general election on 19th April.

The electoral process is to kick off in February once the electoral motion is approved by the General Assembly of Parliament at the beginning of next month.
Speaking to the Bayrak Radio & TV newsroom, Mrs. Ekenoglu said the debate process on the motion will be completed before the 19th of February.
Then it is up to the High Election Council to set up the 60-day time-table right before holding the election on 19th April.
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Postby samarkeolog » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:28 pm

skipper wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.


Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?


I dont know any 2nd or 3rd generation TC's in the UK that use this system because its a pain and causes all kinds of confusion. This has lead to some people having the same firstname and surname like Dervis Dervis because the father named his son after his father but kept his surname (which is his fathers name). Actually I've met a quite a few GCs in the UK too with same first and surnames.


Yeah, when you're around Green Lanes you always know it's a Greek Cypriot/GC place when the name over the door is George George or Michael Michael. :)
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:06 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
CBBB wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.


Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?


My family had the same problem and my father chose my grandfathers name as the beginning of our Sir name....Some just have not bothered to change what was....I really don't understand what this is all about....My name was the second on the island according to my parents and my research..My mum saw it in a dream where her grandmother came to her and said that something terrible would happen to me if I were not named ******! Add that to my grandfathers name and all I could find of people on the net with the same name is in Turkey....Where do I stand in the grand scheme of exclusion??? I know where some would like but the truth is I am 100% TC....These witch hunts are dangerous. :roll: I am in no mood, and never will be, to have to prove myself over and over again...Walking the streets of Cyprus and fearing the Greek police and having to carry around extra papers to say that I am in fact a TC will only add more flames to the fire.


GCs have similar strange conventions for sorting out their names. My wife has one surname, one of her brothers is the same and the other brother a different one, but all related to their common father.


In the UK that would only be possible if there were two different fathers and not only one.

It's an stupid old tradition that needed changing both in the South and the North.


I wouldn't dispute that. I think the previous debate was about the specific circumstances under which this change was introduced. This is an issue about which I knew nothing until reading about it here recently.
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