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[doesntmatter]

This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames.....

Sorry Birkibrisli, but this is the most silly thing I have read in a while.

If your personal wish is for the “TRNC” to become an independent TC state somehow then the Turkish settlers, whose voting power has grown to around 50% if not greater, are actually a hindrance to your wish because their goal is the status quo which serves Turkey and themselves.

First of all let me tell you that status quo suits me just fine, it's better than becoming a Greek Muslim in a purely Greek controlled "RoC".

Second, BK talks about "Turkish style" names and other fools jump on the bandwagon without having a clue what the bloody hell you are talking about. Actually, it's BK who is taking the piss out of you lot, not me, and this will be made clear to you as to how and why soon.

Third, everone is registered as is their birth place and who their parents are and where they were born. Even you must know that, afterall, you claim to know for sure that 50% are "settlers".

So, if you are that sure about the 50% being settlers, then it should be clear to you that BK's question; "But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers????", folowed by his comment "You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames.....", is silly, if not, downrigh stupid.

Of course you know it, but even that does not stop you jumping in to the deep end in an attempt to score a point for yourself.

[Tim Drayton]

Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.

Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?

[iceman]

Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.

Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?

That is correct Tim.....not some,they all use their traditional names in UK.

[Tim Drayton]

Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.

Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?

That is correct Tim.....not some,they all use their traditional names in UK.

Interesting? I wonder if this includes our friend doesntmatter?

[zan]

Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.

Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?

My family had the same problem and my father chose my grandfathers name as the beginnings of our Surname....Some just have not bothered to change what was....I really don't understand what this is all about....My name was the second on the island according to my parents and my research..My mum saw it in a dream where her grandmother came to her and said that something terrible would happen to me if I were not named ******! Add that to my grandfathers name and all I could find of people on the net with the same name is in Turkey....Where do I stand in the grand scheme of exclusion??? I know where some would like but the truth is I am 100% TC....These witch hunts are dangerous. I am in no mood, and never will be, to have to prove myself over and over again...Walking the streets of Cyprus and fearing the Greek police and having to carry around extra papers to say that I am in fact a TC will only add more flames to the fire.

[CBBB]

Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.

Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?

My family had the same problem and my father chose my grandfathers name as the beginning of our Sir name....Some just have not bothered to change what was....I really don't understand what this is all about....My name was the second on the island according to my parents and my research..My mum saw it in a dream where her grandmother came to her and said that something terrible would happen to me if I were not named ******! Add that to my grandfathers name and all I could find of people on the net with the same name is in Turkey....Where do I stand in the grand scheme of exclusion??? I know where some would like but the truth is I am 100% TC....These witch hunts are dangerous. I am in no mood, and never will be, to have to prove myself over and over again...Walking the streets of Cyprus and fearing the Greek police and having to carry around extra papers to say that I am in fact a TC will only add more flames to the fire.

GCs have similar strange conventions for sorting out their names. My wife has one surname, one of her brothers is the same and the other brother a different one, but all related to their common father.

Since my insertion into the family, my decendents are carrying on with the British method where the surname continues. The big advantage of this is that you don’t have the same problems of who you name the children after. I don’t care if none of my grandchildren have my first name, they have my surname (I only have sons).

[Get Real!]

This belongs in Politics and Elections ... not General Chat.

You belong in a padded cell but here you are...Free as the rest of us...

[doesntmatter]

Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.

Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?

Yes, we do Tim for the simple reason that it would be very difficult and a lot of work to change our surnames, but you can rest assured that in the TRNC we use our "Turkish style" surnames instead of the silly and backwards naming system where the wife and kids have a different surname to her/their husband/father.

I'm sure you would love it if your wife was called "Mrs. Tim", then you can claim that she is not your wife because she does not have your surname, when you are in a pub/night club trying to pick up a bird for the night.

Just imagine, you can even claim that you have no kids.

Like I said, people like you are only too eager to find any old excuse to jump on the Greek propaganda wagon and make a noise just for the sake of it.

I'm sure that British fathers would be very happy if their sons do not carry the British tradition of family name.

BTW Tim, is it allowed in the UK for fathers to give their kids his first name?

ie:
Tom Tim or
Tracy Tim?

[doesntmatter]

Re: Turkish Cypriot names.

Page 13 of a handbook prepared by the Bristol National Health Service entitled "A Guide to International Naming Systems" contains the following information:

http://www.nbt.nhs.uk/forpatients/chapl ... 202007.doc

TURKISH CYPRIOT

Personal name followed by the surname.

Wives and children adopt their father's personal name.

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

Most Turkish Cypriot men will not have the same surname as their wife or children.

Does this mean that some Turkish Cypriots in the UK are continuing to use their traditional naming system?

That is correct Tim.....not some,they all use their traditional names in UK.

NOT like the above example iceman, we were forced to change our surnames to the same as our fathers a while back. Note that when I say "forced" this does not [necessarly] mean by law and had various different reasons.

If you take the example above, this:

e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ahmet
Son Haljl Ahmet

was changed to:


e.g. Male Ahmet Ersoy
Wife Munevver Ersoy
Son Haljl Ersoy

But I think you'll find that "Ersoy" is also used in Turkey, so does that mean that it is a "Turkish style" surname or is it "traditional Turkish Cypriot" ?

[Get Real!]

This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames.....

Sorry Birkibrisli, but this is the most silly thing I have read in a while.

If your personal wish is for the “TRNC” to become an independent TC state somehow then the Turkish settlers, whose voting power has grown to around 50% if not greater, are actually a hindrance to your wish because their goal is the status quo which serves Turkey and themselves.

First of all let me tell you that status quo suits me just fine, it's better than becoming a Greek Muslim in a purely Greek controlled "RoC".

Second, BK talks about "Turkish style" names and other fools jump on the bandwagon without having a clue what the bloody hell you are talking about. Actually, it's BK who is taking the piss out of you lot, not me, and this will be made clear to you as to how and why soon.

Third, everone is registered as is their birth place and who their parents are and where they were born. Even you must know that, afterall, you claim to know for sure that 50% are "settlers".

So, if you are that sure about the 50% being settlers, then it should be clear to you that BK's question; "But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers????", folowed by his comment "You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames.....", is silly, if not, downrigh stupid.

Of course you know it, but even that does not stop you jumping in to the deep end in an attempt to score a point for yourself.

The “TRNC” did not allow independent UN/EU or whatever inspectors, to monitor the last election and chances are that they won’t allow them again.

The reason is because the inspectors would’ve checked all these things, including the election procedure, in the interests of international human rights laws and the Cyprus problem of course.

I don’t know what a “TRNC” election booklet involves, if it includes a POB or not, or even if these details have been modified for some citizens arriving from Turkey to push an agenda. The UN inspectors would’ve investigated all that had they been allowed to…