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Postby halil » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:34 pm

Political parties are continuing to evaluate the governing Republican Turkish Party’s decision to hold early elections on the 19th April this year.


The government’s junior coalition partner, the Freedom and Reform Party has announced that it is in agreement with CTP on the date of early elections.


In a statement to the BRT, Deputy Prime Minister, Foreign Minister and the ORP Leader Turgay Avci said that his part had discussed all aspects of holding early elections before the decision was announced.


“We as the ORP are ready for the elections` Avci said.


Mr Avci who expressed confidence that his party will take place in any new coalition government that will formed after the elections.


“A coalition without the ORP is unavoidable” he added.


On the other hand, the Leader of the main opposition National Unity Party Dervis Eroglu said the elections scheduled for the 19th of April were not `early` but `obligatory`.


At a press conference today, Mr Eroglu reminded that the UBP has been calling for elections since September 2006 and that the government had finally felt compelled to hold early elections.Eroglu expects the UBP to make a come back as the ruling party.


He says, once that happens, the UBP will not run away from the
negotiations table as expected but will sign any political agreement with the Greek Cypriot side that foresees the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus as a sovereign and equal founding states, as well as Turkey’s active guarantees.


Stating that the UBP will start electing its candidates by February, Eroglu noted that his party will work in harmony with President Mehmet Ali Talat in case they form the new government.

The Leader of the Republican Turkish Party – Prime Minister Ferdi Sabit Soyer announced his party’s decision to hold early general elections on the 19th of April 2009 yesterday.


Mr Soyer said the motion concerning the date of the early election would soon be presented to parliament.
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Postby skipper » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:05 pm

halil wrote:Political parties are continuing to evaluate the governing Republican Turkish Party’s decision to hold early elections on the 19th April this year.


The government’s junior coalition partner, the Freedom and Reform Party has announced that it is in agreement with CTP on the date of early elections.


In a statement to the BRT, Deputy Prime Minister, Foreign Minister and the ORP Leader Turgay Avci said that his part had discussed all aspects of holding early elections before the decision was announced.


“We as the ORP are ready for the elections` Avci said.


Mr Avci who expressed confidence that his party will take place in any new coalition government that will formed after the elections.


“A coalition without the ORP is unavoidable” he added.


On the other hand, the Leader of the main opposition National Unity Party Dervis Eroglu said the elections scheduled for the 19th of April were not `early` but `obligatory`.


At a press conference today, Mr Eroglu reminded that the UBP has been calling for elections since September 2006 and that the government had finally felt compelled to hold early elections.Eroglu expects the UBP to make a come back as the ruling party.


He says, once that happens, the UBP will not run away from the
negotiations table as expected but will sign any political agreement with the Greek Cypriot side that foresees the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus as a sovereign and equal founding states, as well as Turkey’s active guarantees.


Stating that the UBP will start electing its candidates by February, Eroglu noted that his party will work in harmony with President Mehmet Ali Talat in case they form the new government.

The Leader of the Republican Turkish Party – Prime Minister Ferdi Sabit Soyer announced his party’s decision to hold early general elections on the 19th of April 2009 yesterday.


Mr Soyer said the motion concerning the date of the early election would soon be presented to parliament.


More nonsense but this time from the UBP, what exactly are they going to sign? Negotiations are done by Talat and any agreement put forward to referendum will be signed by the leaders of each community.

Even if they win the elections there is nothing they can do if Talat does n't want to listen to them (and he is not obliged to) as what ever solution is offered will go to referendum so the people will have their say. Besides everyone knows the GC will never accept a confederation which is what the UBP mean here.

As for the ORP statement, what a joke, I'd be surprised if they get 1 seat.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:11 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(

Sorry Birkibrisli, but this is the most silly thing I have read in a while. :roll:

If your personal wish is for the “TRNC” to become an independent TC state somehow then the Turkish settlers, whose voting power has grown to around 50% if not greater, are actually a hindrance to your wish because their goal is the status quo which serves Turkey and themselves.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:37 am

doesntmatter wrote:
skipper wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
halil wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


The TC tradition was basically that children took their fathers name as their surname and a lot of the time in villages most of the people had nick names which sometimes happen to be greek ones so some people where known by their fathers nick name (in greek) which was n't allowed so some people changed it to their fathers real name or something else in turkish.

By the way this tradition probably comes from muslim/arab tradition since Arabs also have form of name son/daughter of father. For example Osama bin Ladan, Osama son-of Ladan.

I'm not sure when the practice of children having their fathers surname became the norm but you hardly call this "Turkish style".


It's only because he hates Turkey, Turks and anything that is in the slightest Turkish.

He would rather stay a backward "Cypriot". :roll:


Thank you. Like I said, you identify yourself as a Turk, and not a Cypriot.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:04 pm

This belongs in Politics and Elections ... not General Chat.
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Postby doesntmatter » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:55 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
skipper wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
halil wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


The TC tradition was basically that children took their fathers name as their surname and a lot of the time in villages most of the people had nick names which sometimes happen to be greek ones so some people where known by their fathers nick name (in greek) which was n't allowed so some people changed it to their fathers real name or something else in turkish.

By the way this tradition probably comes from muslim/arab tradition since Arabs also have form of name son/daughter of father. For example Osama bin Ladan, Osama son-of Ladan.

I'm not sure when the practice of children having their fathers surname became the norm but you hardly call this "Turkish style".


It's only because he hates Turkey, Turks and anything that is in the slightest Turkish.

He would rather stay a backward "Cypriot". :roll:


Thank you. Like I said, you identify yourself as a Turk, and not a Cypriot.


Believe what you like Tim, I haven't taken you seriously since you claimed the same crap as BK about "Turkish style" names. You talk crap and are only interested in spreading Greek propaganda and jump on any band wagon without even understanding it just so that you can make a noise.

The best I can do for you Tim is to laugh at you, especially the silly and childish comment above. :roll:
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:59 pm

Oracle wrote:This belongs in Politics and Elections ... not General Chat.



You belong in a padded cell but here you are...Free as the rest of us... :roll: :lol:
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Postby Cem » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:03 pm

Oracle wrote:This belongs in Politics and Elections ... not General Chat.


Wrong !! This thread more likely belongs to Jokes and Enigmas section.

Contrary to what I would expect from the GCs, I would delete "Jokes" but keep "Enigmas".

Guess why.
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:10 pm

Zan said:

"All that meet the criteria in the "RoC" do........" that is they vote and it is a cunning way to evade the issue which is the wholesale naturalisation of Turks as Cypriots.

In the RoC nationality is issued only to those who marry Cypriots and who ALSO reside in Cyprus LEGALLY for a minimum of 3 years. My wife of 30 years cannot have Cypriot nationality precisely because of this residence criterion. There have been NO wholesale naturalisations in the south and non national legal residents do NOT vote.

The assertion that foreigners who have been living in the north for decades should have a vote in elections, and worse, a vote in a referendum over the future of the island, while expatriated Cypriots do not vote is indicative of the mindset of racists partitionists.
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:12 pm

Nikitas wrote:Zan said:

"All that meet the criteria in the "RoC" do........" that is they vote and it is a cunning way to evade the issue which is the wholesale naturalisation of Turks as Cypriots.

In the RoC nationality is issued only to those who marry Cypriots and who ALSO reside in Cyprus LEGALLY for a minimum of 3 years. My wife of 30 years cannot have Cypriot nationality precisely because of this residence criterion. There have been NO wholesale naturalisations in the south and non national legal residents do NOT vote.

The assertion that foreigners who have been living in the north for decades should have a vote in elections, and worse, a vote in a referendum over the future of the island, while expatriated Cypriots do not vote is indicative of the mindset of racists partitionists.


You are jumping the gun without all the facts Nikitas....I said that those that have been living in the TRNC for over 30 years....Nothing more...Gets your facts right!!!!
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