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ELECTIONS ON THE 19TH OF APRIL

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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:This should be in the CyProb section Halil...


This should be in a TRNCProb section.
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:52 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
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bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


Sorry Birkibrisli, but this is the most silly thing I have read in a while. :roll:
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Postby skipper » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:30 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
halil wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


The TC tradition was basically that children took their fathers name as their surname and a lot of the time in villages most of the people had nick names which sometimes happen to be greek ones so some people where known by their fathers nick name (in greek) which was n't allowed so some people changed it to their fathers real name or something else in turkish.

By the way this tradition probably comes from muslim/arab tradition since Arabs also have form of name son/daughter of father. For example Osama bin Ladan, Osama son-of Ladan.

I'm not sure when the practice of children having their fathers surname became the norm but you hardly call this "Turkish style".
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:42 pm

skipper wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
halil wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


The TC tradition was basically that children took their fathers name as their surname and a lot of the time in villages most of the people had nick names which sometimes happen to be greek ones so some people where known by their fathers nick name (in greek) which was n't allowed so some people changed it to their fathers real name or something else in turkish.

By the way this tradition probably comes from muslim/arab tradition since Arabs also have form of name son/daughter of father. For example Osama bin Ladan, Osama son-of Ladan.

I'm not sure when the practice of children having their fathers surname became the norm but you hardly call this "Turkish style".


It's only because he hates Turkey, Turks and anything that is in the slightest Turkish.

He would rather stay a backward "Cypriot". :roll:
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Postby skipper » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:43 pm

halil wrote:Last night , we all the TC's watched primer minister Talks about his election decision from our Televisions . He has given his reasons

He pointed out , in June or end of the this year there will be referendum or last shape of the talks will come out . they decided to make early election to support Federal solution in Cyprus .

he also said there is a different ideas between parties .
some parties wants to return back to 1960 constitution .some parties wants confedration (he didn't say which parties) . etc.... etc .....


@ Tim ,
what i see is :Talat and CTP are still same , what they were during the Annan plan time .they are still in same position . They came to power what they promised during the referandum and annan plan time . we did not elect them what they were saying before the AP time .

as I said before next election result will get effected again by yhe Cyprus talks and results of the negatiotions not what CTP or UBP or EU or Turkey or what the others are saying .


Thats the most silly excuse for an election I've heard so far, does Soyer really think that if say the UBP get in power that Talat is going to say "okay I'm giving up and working for whatever kind of solution UBP want", like iceman said the Cyprus Problem falls under the president and whatever solution is presented will go to referendum so I call bullshit on this one.

The real reason for April because that is probably when the money runs out, I could tell an election was coming soon because they have started handing out their bribes, for example people who grow crops can apply for free diesel and other "support" measures.

Come after the election there is going to be more tax rises or jobs will have to go for sure whoever comes in.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:51 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
halil wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


Sorry Birkibrisli, but this is the most silly thing I have read in a while. :roll:


I don't see anything silly in Birs concerns about this attempt to cover up the Turkish attempt to usurp Turkish Cypriots! He and other TCs should be very worried about this.

You obviously think it doesntmatter as you are a Turk.
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:01 pm

CBBB wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
halil wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


Sorry Birkibrisli, but this is the most silly thing I have read in a while. :roll:


I don't see anything silly in Birs concerns about this attempt to cover up the Turkish attempt to usurp Turkish Cypriots! He and other TCs should be very worried about this.

You obviously think it doesntmatter as you are a Turk.


Obviously you have no idea what you are t alking about.

How can it be "Turkish Style" for TURKISH CYPRIOTS?

Do you have "Greek Style" for Greek Cypriots? :lol:

If you want to jump on the Greek style propaganda bandwagon, you'll have to finds something else because as I said, what Birkibrisli wrote is the most silly thing I have read in a while.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:25 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
CBBB wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
halil wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


Sorry Birkibrisli, but this is the most silly thing I have read in a while. :roll:


I don't see anything silly in Birs concerns about this attempt to cover up the Turkish attempt to usurp Turkish Cypriots! He and other TCs should be very worried about this.

You obviously think it doesntmatter as you are a Turk.


Obviously you have no idea what you are t alking about.

How can it be "Turkish Style" for TURKISH CYPRIOTS?

Do you have "Greek Style" for Greek Cypriots? :lol:

If you want to jump on the Greek style propaganda bandwagon, you'll have to finds something else because as I said, what Birkibrisli wrote is the most silly thing I have read in a while.


As skipper said there was a tradition of the use of nicknames (which may or not have been Greek related) as there is amongst the Greek Cypriots. There are many GCs whose family names are not Greek. My best mate is an Englezos which started as a nickname some generations ago. There are many examples of this in the RoC. A load of invaders coming along and making people change there names looks very dodgy to me. Is Adolph alive and well and running the occupied areas ?
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:37 pm

CBBB wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
CBBB wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
halil wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


Sorry Birkibrisli, but this is the most silly thing I have read in a while. :roll:


I don't see anything silly in Birs concerns about this attempt to cover up the Turkish attempt to usurp Turkish Cypriots! He and other TCs should be very worried about this.

You obviously think it doesntmatter as you are a Turk.


Obviously you have no idea what you are t alking about.

How can it be "Turkish Style" for TURKISH CYPRIOTS?

Do you have "Greek Style" for Greek Cypriots? :lol:

If you want to jump on the Greek style propaganda bandwagon, you'll have to finds something else because as I said, what Birkibrisli wrote is the most silly thing I have read in a while.


As skipper said there was a tradition of the use of nicknames (which may or not have been Greek related) as there is amongst the Greek Cypriots. There are many GCs whose family names are not Greek. My best mate is an Englezos which started as a nickname some generations ago. There are many examples of this in the RoC. A load of invaders coming along and making people change there names looks very dodgy to me.


Did you know that the same examples of nicknames that started generations ago are in use and have been accepted as surnames in the TRNC or is your ignorance of these facts selective?

There is also another point about BK but I'll leave that for now just to see if you can spot it on your own. :wink:


Is Adolph alive and well and running the occupied areas ?


He has been replaced by a commie Adolph in the South Greek Cyprus.
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Postby skipper » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:01 pm

CBBB wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
CBBB wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
halil wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Another chance for the Majority Settlers From Anatolia to have their say.


Elections! What a scam! : :roll: :roll:


Most of the "settlers" you refer to are voteless workers (and many of those Kurds). Turkish Cypriots are still the majority of the voting citizens and it is they who have their say. In fact, the Turkish residents who have been given citizenship have normally voted against the nationalistic parties.


It is true samarkeolog ......

to find out is very easy, soon voter list will hung on the walls .... on those list it is very easy to find out who are going to vote .with names and id.numbers.

also from the Cities or villages elections results it can be traced very easily .after every elections results are publishing from daily news papers . which party or which persons has got how many votes from every places .

some how some people are believes what they have been told by other parties .usually these information's are given out some small groups .they tries to cover their unsuccess in elections .


This is all fine,Halil...But how will we know who of these voters are real TCs and who are settlers???? You will admit it is impossible now that they have forced all TCs to adopt Turkish style surnames..... :(


Sorry Birkibrisli, but this is the most silly thing I have read in a while. :roll:


I don't see anything silly in Birs concerns about this attempt to cover up the Turkish attempt to usurp Turkish Cypriots! He and other TCs should be very worried about this.

You obviously think it doesntmatter as you are a Turk.


Obviously you have no idea what you are t alking about.

How can it be "Turkish Style" for TURKISH CYPRIOTS?

Do you have "Greek Style" for Greek Cypriots? :lol:

If you want to jump on the Greek style propaganda bandwagon, you'll have to finds something else because as I said, what Birkibrisli wrote is the most silly thing I have read in a while.


As skipper said there was a tradition of the use of nicknames (which may or not have been Greek related) as there is amongst the Greek Cypriots. There are many GCs whose family names are not Greek. My best mate is an Englezos which started as a nickname some generations ago. There are many examples of this in the RoC. A load of invaders coming along and making people change there names looks very dodgy to me. Is Adolph alive and well and running the occupied areas ?


Like I said it was only Greek nick names and in those cases many people changed the suffix from for example -igo to -ik. My old landlords surname (who was TC) had a surname of Ruso, which you wont find anywhere in Turkey. Another that comes into the top of my head is the surname Angonemli both TC surnames in use now.

The point being that there is no big conspiracy on surnames and there is no such thing as "Turkish style" surnames.
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