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[Get Real!]

The Greek Troops were not bought to Cyprus to declare ENOSIS. Their purpose was to offer security and protection to the GCs from TMT attack and TAF napalm bombings.

As for protection from Turkish Air Force bombings, it was Greek Cypriot extremists' attacks that caused Turkish military bombings. Der Spiegel (19th August 1964 - Google translation) said that,

the attackers overwhelmed the apron of Kokkina - the small villages of Alevga, Ayios Theodoros, Sellai Tappi and Mansoura, from which, together with Kokkina, one of the two Turkish cantons would be formed according to the Acheson Plan.
The core forces of the attackers were two private mercenary armies, to which the worst atrocities of the Cypriot civil war have been attributed:
- The 600, Green Beret-wearing partisans of the newspaper publisher and former EOKA fighter Nikos Sampson, 29...;
- The 2000 Red Caps [Red Berets] of the far left physician of Makarios, Dr. Vassos Lyssarides - a friend of Tito and Nasser's confidant and Khrushchev...

When they attacked, Turkey bombed them back. So, the Greek Cypriots might have needed the Greeks to protect them from the Turks, but only because the Greek Cypriots attacked the Turkish Cypriots. If the Greek Cypriots hadn't attacked the Turkish Cypriots, the Turks wouldn't have attacked the Greek Cypriots.

The Greek-led Cypriot government said Turkish jets had dropped 750lbs (340 kg) of bombs and napalm on their strongholds in north-west Cyprus.

"The whole area is on fire," said a spokesman for the Cypriot government.

"We cannot estimate casualties but there must be hundreds. Whole villages have been wiped out."

They also accused the Turkish government of landing troops on the north-west coast of the island.

The BBC may have republished what it reported on the day, but that doesn't mean that what it reported on the day was correct...

Soon after, der Spiegel recorded,

Rossides, the Cypriot High Commissioner in London, Antis Soteriades and Makarios himself gave grossly exaggerated descriptions of the alleged consequences of the Turkish air raids.
"Many villages have vanished from the earth", reported the Cyprus Broadcasting Station on Sunday. In the first reports more than five hundred dead were spoken of. "In rolling mission[s] Turkish planes bombed Greek villages and the defenseless civilian population in a barbaric way," said Makarios in Cyprus even TV. "They transformed churches. Schools and hospitals [are] in ruins."
In truth, the number of bomb victims, according to SPIEGEL editor Jochen Becher last week from Cyprus cables, [was] "between 60 and a maximum of 100, of which about half soldiers." The Turkish attacks were directed specifically against the military deployment points of the National Guards in Kokkina. The hardest hit were
- The village Pakhi Ammenos [Pakhyammos], deployment center of the Greek attackers, whose 250 inhabitants, 40 killed and 100 were wounded;
- A gunboat in the Cypriot port of Polis (five dead, 13 wounded):
- A field hospital three miles before Kokkina, hit by a bombing strike (eight deaths).
The attack on the hospital, marked by the Red Cross flag, was mentioned by the Cypriot government as an example of Turkish barbarism mentioned. But, covered by the walls of the building, it had an armoured reconaissance car position. The pipes of the burnt-out vehicle (indicator: AB 261) are still targeted against Turkish Kokkina. The Cypriot police has banned photographs of the wreck.

Obviously, any civilian casualties are unfortunate, but they did have to stop the attack on the enclave (to save other civilians' lives). Their only options were bombing from the air or defending it from land, but defending it from land would have been an invasion (or "intervention")...

“Der Spiegel”, and especially an online translation of their German article does NOT constitute credible evidence by any measure!

Further down in your post you also state that what the BBC reported on the day may not have been correct yet go on to put all your eggs in the “Der Spiegel” basket and what THEY reported on the day… how convenient!

Had you done your homework you would’ve known that the Kokkina enclave was in fact a TMT forces enclave, which had a sea port that regularly received arms and other supplies from Turkish boats that fuelled the TC armed uprisings all over the island, and ultimately making it vital for Turkey’s goal of partition on Cyprus by providing her with a safe beachhead for a military ground invasion.

The fact that the TAF conducted the first aerial bombings on Cyprus as a result of the Kokkina threat by opposing forces is further concrete evidence of the importance of Kokkina for Turkey because had Kokkina fallen the entire Turkish ulterior motive for Cyprus would’ve fallen to pieces.

Therefore, the RoC government was correct in its evaluation that the Kokkina point was a major national threat and had to go! After all, the major population of Cyprus was an 82% overwhelming majority of Greek Cypriots that the Kokkina point was directly threatening.

Finally, you may be interested in this study…

http://www.yenikibris.org/kitap/ulus/dillirga.htm


Regards, GR.

[doesntmatter]

The Greek Troops were not bought to Cyprus to declare ENOSIS. Their purpose was to offer security and protection to the GCs from TMT attack and TAF napalm bombings.

As for protection from Turkish Air Force bombings, it was Greek Cypriot extremists' attacks that caused Turkish military bombings. Der Spiegel (19th August 1964 - Google translation) said that,

the attackers overwhelmed the apron of Kokkina - the small villages of Alevga, Ayios Theodoros, Sellai Tappi and Mansoura, from which, together with Kokkina, one of the two Turkish cantons would be formed according to the Acheson Plan.
The core forces of the attackers were two private mercenary armies, to which the worst atrocities of the Cypriot civil war have been attributed:
- The 600, Green Beret-wearing partisans of the newspaper publisher and former EOKA fighter Nikos Sampson, 29...;
- The 2000 Red Caps [Red Berets] of the far left physician of Makarios, Dr. Vassos Lyssarides - a friend of Tito and Nasser's confidant and Khrushchev...

When they attacked, Turkey bombed them back. So, the Greek Cypriots might have needed the Greeks to protect them from the Turks, but only because the Greek Cypriots attacked the Turkish Cypriots. If the Greek Cypriots hadn't attacked the Turkish Cypriots, the Turks wouldn't have attacked the Greek Cypriots.

The Greek-led Cypriot government said Turkish jets had dropped 750lbs (340 kg) of bombs and napalm on their strongholds in north-west Cyprus.

"The whole area is on fire," said a spokesman for the Cypriot government.

"We cannot estimate casualties but there must be hundreds. Whole villages have been wiped out."

They also accused the Turkish government of landing troops on the north-west coast of the island.

The BBC may have republished what it reported on the day, but that doesn't mean that what it reported on the day was correct...

Soon after, der Spiegel recorded,

Rossides, the Cypriot High Commissioner in London, Antis Soteriades and Makarios himself gave grossly exaggerated descriptions of the alleged consequences of the Turkish air raids.
"Many villages have vanished from the earth", reported the Cyprus Broadcasting Station on Sunday. In the first reports more than five hundred dead were spoken of. "In rolling mission[s] Turkish planes bombed Greek villages and the defenseless civilian population in a barbaric way," said Makarios in Cyprus even TV. "They transformed churches. Schools and hospitals [are] in ruins."
In truth, the number of bomb victims, according to SPIEGEL editor Jochen Becher last week from Cyprus cables, [was] "between 60 and a maximum of 100, of which about half soldiers." The Turkish attacks were directed specifically against the military deployment points of the National Guards in Kokkina. The hardest hit were
- The village Pakhi Ammenos [Pakhyammos], deployment center of the Greek attackers, whose 250 inhabitants, 40 killed and 100 were wounded;
- A gunboat in the Cypriot port of Polis (five dead, 13 wounded):
- A field hospital three miles before Kokkina, hit by a bombing strike (eight deaths).
The attack on the hospital, marked by the Red Cross flag, was mentioned by the Cypriot government as an example of Turkish barbarism mentioned. But, covered by the walls of the building, it had an armoured reconaissance car position. The pipes of the burnt-out vehicle (indicator: AB 261) are still targeted against Turkish Kokkina. The Cypriot police has banned photographs of the wreck.

Obviously, any civilian casualties are unfortunate, but they did have to stop the attack on the enclave (to save other civilians' lives). Their only options were bombing from the air or defending it from land, but defending it from land would have been an invasion (or "intervention")...

“Der Spiegel”, and especially an online translation of their German article does NOT constitute credible evidence by any measure!

Further down in your post you also state that what the BBC reported on the day may not have been correct yet go on to put all your eggs in the “Der Spiegel” basket and what THEY reported on the day… how convenient!

Had you done your homework you would’ve known that the Kokkina enclave was in fact a TMT forces enclave, which had a sea port that regularly received arms and other supplies from Turkish boats that fuelled the TC armed uprisings all over the island, and ultimately making it vital for Turkey’s goal of partition on Cyprus by providing her with a safe beachhead for a military ground invasion.

The fact that the TAF conducted the first aerial bombings on Cyprus as a result of the Kokkina threat by opposing forces is further concrete evidence of the importance of Kokkina for Turkey because had Kokkina fallen the entire Turkish ulterior motive for Cyprus would’ve fallen to pieces.

Therefore, the RoC government was correct in its evaluation that the Kokkina point was a major national threat and had to go! After all, the major population of Cyprus was an 82% overwhelming majority of Greek Cypriots that the Kokkina point was directly threatening.

GR, you don't even believe that Greek or GC sources that say anything against Greeks or GCs in the slightest are "credible evidence", so what the point in giving you any links or sources?

Finally, you may be interested in this study…

http://www.yenikibris.org/kitap/ulus/dillirga.htm


Regards, GR.

Now, why would you quote that site?

[samarkeolog]

“Der Spiegel”, and especially an online translation of their German article does NOT constitute credible evidence by any measure!

Well, I did include a link to the German original, too... Why doesn't der Spiegel constitute credible evidence?

Further down in your post you also state that what the BBC reported on the day may not have been correct yet go on to put all your eggs in the “Der Spiegel” basket and what THEY reported on the day… how convenient!

Well, what the BBC reported was what the Greek Cypriot officials claimed.

The Greek-led Cypriot government said Turkish jets had dropped 750lbs (340 kg) of bombs and napalm on their strongholds in north-west Cyprus.

"The whole area is on fire," said a spokesman for the Cypriot government.

"We cannot estimate casualties but there must be hundreds. Whole villages have been wiped out."

They also accused the Turkish government of landing troops on the north-west coast of the island.

Der Spiegel investigated those claims.

I'm not denying the enclave was armed and a supply route for arms for other enclaves. But there were refugees as well. Jack Goodwin (1978: 428) recorded 600 refugees, some living in caves for a time. (Like Ulus Irkad, Goodwin also noted that 'Gov[ernmen]t of Cyprus police caught a young British serviceman, Keith Marley, transporting military cargo for the Turks from the Kokkina [and] Limnitis enclaves to the main Nicosia enclave', but I think now it's quite well-known that elements within the British security services supported the Turkish Cypriots.)

In Irkad's article, he wrote that '[in t]he interview granted to Tass in Nicosia the President said: "Before anything I must state with all my strength that [url=http://www.yenikibris.org/kitap/ulus/dillirga.htm]the Greek side had no intention whatever to attack Turkish villages[/i] and did not open fire first"'. But According to Swedish United Nations peacekeepers, Makarios had previously 'promised to annihilate Kokkina and Mansoura' (Welin and Ekelund, 2004: 34).

Therefore, the RoC government was correct in its evaluation that the Kokkina point was a major national threat and had to go! After all, the major population of Cyprus was an 82% overwhelming majority of Greek Cypriots that the Kokkina point was directly threatening.

Finally, you may be interested in this study…

http://www.yenikibris.org/kitap/ulus/dillirga.htm


Regards, GR.

Did you read Irkad's conclusion?

Young students with only a few weeks of training joined the fighting in Dillirga. Some of them died in the fightings.... [T]he Greek Cypriots still argue that a fully equipped army invaded Dillirga.

Similarly, 'Turkish Cypriots on the other hand exaggerated the facts to stress their justification in the developments', but '[d]uring the Turkish air bombardment a lot of Greeks died as well'.

Both sides in this conflict try to induce the impression of their innocence.... As always the guilty side is the other one.... Both communities endeavour to conceal the facts from their communities showing the other side as culprits in this affair.... Both communities endeavour to conceal the facts from their communities showing the other side as culprits in this affair.... Both Cypriot Turks and Cypriot Greeks who lived for centuries in that region were forced to evacuate their houses and find safer refuge somewhere else. Hundreds of civilians were either killed or wounded during the Dillirga fighting.... Both Greek and Turkish Cypriot press failed.... The criticism and evaluation of the happenings was carried out by chauvnistic writers. Those who initiated the fightings were not critic[is]ed and sufferings of both communities were side stepped.

It seems to me that he and I agree. Both sides' violent, nationalist extremists were responsible and both communities suffered.

Goodwin, J C. 1978: [i]An historical toponymy of Cyprus. Nicosia: Jack C. Goodwin.

Welin, G and Ekelund, C. 2004: The U.N. in Cyprus: Swedish peace-keeping operations, 1964-1993. London: C. Hurst and Co. Ltd.

[denizaksulu]

I am not going to waste my time going through the 1960 Constitution line by line.

You don't have to. Some salient features which you loved about it, will do; plus anything that riles with democracy, according to what you "mean" by Democracy, of course.

That should do nicely.

BTW .... Is this yours?

http://samarkeolog.blogspot.com/

Well, people were getting attacked and killed, their homes and coffee shops were getting attacked. Anything that stops murder is at least quite nice, isn't it? I presume you want me to say that having community quotas and imbalances in government, public services, etc., are undemocratic. I would agree, but nationalist violence made the community guarantees essential. In Britain, our minorities don't have any special protections, but our nationalist extremists have never been our official representatives, and they have never been our government. In Cyprus, nationalist extremists became the government and the police, so their victims needed protection. The Constitution was so democratic it even let citizens vote for people who didn't like the Constitution! That's more democratic than Turkey's!

(Yes, that is my blog, though the research stuff is on http://human-rights-archaeology.blogspot.com and the site blogs listed on the left side of the page.)

Basically what you are asserting, is that the TCs had to be given an inordinately larger share of the government than they were "entitled" to, in order to stop them attacking GCs and the infrastructure.

This you acknowledge is undemocratic, but was the only way to stop the violence started by the TCs to force the Brits to give them more in the Agreement.

Proof of this lies in the fact that once again, the violence was restarted by TCs when they feared these undemocratic extras may be removed,.

Thanks. You have confirmed what the Cyprus problem is all about.

TC greed at the expense of democracy.....

You may call it whatever you like dear Oracle. We call it self-preservation. Do not begrudge us that. If the 'majority' were not going to protect us, it had to be ourselves. This was obvious when it came to the running of the Municipalities.

When most other groups demand Democracy to live a meaningful life, the TCs demand to over-ride it.

It's not just the Turks that have a problem with Democracy then!

It is unbelievable. Though the word'democracy' has been banded about since classical times, I doubt if anyone knew the meaning of it in Cyprus in the 1960's. You seem to have a sudden recollection of the word. How odd.

Strangely enough, I remember Cyprus being referred to as the democracy (H demokratia).

I've never had to over-use it as much as I have done here with samarkeolog, to determine what is the sticking point. I pretty much took it for granted everyone just accepted Democracy; like breathing! It's hard to believe it was and is, so taboo with the TCs, who prided themselves on being unlike the Turks ... but here you all are, putting down Democracy, because it doesn't suit your own personal extraordinary demands.

This is something that most British people are unaware of, regarding the Cyprus Problem: just how undemocratic the TCs are.

A revelation, and an education!

I know we had the 'Dimokratia Kipreaki/Kibris Cumhuriyeti, but I am talking about the use of it in the sense that you are using it today.

You may well puzzle. We've just established that if democracy of any "kind" is introduced (even remotely imposing one-man-one-vote) the TCs will riot/loot/rampage again; then enclave themselves .... as they have done now on a BIG scale!

I agree with your last paragraph. Then, if you realy mean to live in c0-existence, both sides should learn to trust each other. Can you strive to achieve this trust? Instead of pouring out venom and anti TC slogans all the time, why not use your skills in promoting love and harmony between the two communities. Its the 'Trust Factor' that make many TCs hesitate to consider a re-unification (ofcourse there is also the 'greed' aspect of it too -lets keep what we have 'gotten')

[Paphitis]

Deniz Wrote:

Tragic and foolhardy as it was. What do yo know about the eight who lost their lives. According to the British they were part of a group of GCs ready to carry out an attack on a TC village. Bananiots above post also refers to this. Last year a British Army report was produced here giving an account of the event.

Sorry Deniz, but both Bananiot and yourself have made these statements without supplying any credible evidence.

Could you please provide a link to this British Army report?

This is what Bananiot said:

That is absolute rubbish and those that know better can tell Paphitis that the Brits only tried to save them for they were part of an armed group that organised attacks on TC villages of the area.

This statement means absolutely nothing unless credible evidence is provided.

The statement is also ambiguous as Bananiot claims that the 8 GC's "were part of an armed group that organised attacks on TC villages of the area".

Well, I did not deny that the 8 were not part of an armed group. I did state that the 8 were EOKA members.

This is exactly what I said:

Next the British released from jail eight Greek Cypriot EOKA fighters, forcing them to walk through the Turkish village of Guenyeli, where they were quickly set upon and murdered. Thus began two months of violence by extremists on both sides, killing 56 Greeks and 53 Turks. Tellingly, the British arrested 2,000 Greeks, but only 60 Turks.

And this:

On 12 June 1958 eight innocent unarmed Greek Cypriot civilians from Kondemenos village were murdered by T.M.T. terrorists near the Turkish Cypriot populated village of Geunyeli in an totally unprovoked attack, after being dropped off there by the British authorities. After this the Turkish government ordered the TMT to blow up the offices of the Turkish press office in Nicosia in order to falsely put the blame of the Greek Cypriots and prevent independence negotiations from succeeding. It also began a string of assassinations and murders of prominent Turkish Cypriot supporters of independence.

So the eight individuals were part of an armed group. But they were released in a TMT controlled area by the British and were unarmed at the time. The 8 GC's were murdered by TMT near the village of Geunyeli.

If there is any creditable evidence to contradict this, then please post it...

[denizaksulu]

I hope the poster of that report is around to give us an inkling as to where to find that link. I asked the question and refered to the article. I will try and do a search but there are many thousands of posts. That would take a very long time.

ANYONE OUT THERE WHO POSTED THE LINK TO THE GONYELI/GEUNYELI INCIDENT PLEASE MAKE YOUR PRESENCE KNOWN.

[denizaksulu]

Deniz Wrote:

Tragic and foolhardy as it was. What do yo know about the eight who lost their lives. According to the British they were part of a group of GCs ready to carry out an attack on a TC village. Bananiots above post also refers to this. Last year a British Army report was produced here giving an account of the event.

Sorry Deniz, but both Bananiot and yourself have made these statements without supplying any credible evidence.

Could you please provide a link to this British Army report?

This is what Bananiot said:

That is absolute rubbish and those that know better can tell Paphitis that the Brits only tried to save them for they were part of an armed group that organised attacks on TC villages of the area.

This statement means absolutely nothing unless credible evidence is provided.

The statement is also ambiguous as Bananiot claims that the 8 GC's "were part of an armed group that organised attacks on TC villages of the area".

Well, I did not deny that the 8 were not part of an armed group. I did state that the 8 were EOKA members.

This is exactly what I said:

Next the British released from jail eight Greek Cypriot EOKA fighters, forcing them to walk through the Turkish village of Guenyeli, where they were quickly set upon and murdered. Thus began two months of violence by extremists on both sides, killing 56 Greeks and 53 Turks. Tellingly, the British arrested 2,000 Greeks, but only 60 Turks.

And this:

On 12 June 1958 eight innocent unarmed Greek Cypriot civilians from Kondemenos village were murdered by T.M.T. terrorists near the Turkish Cypriot populated village of Geunyeli in an totally unprovoked attack, after being dropped off there by the British authorities. After this the Turkish government ordered the TMT to blow up the offices of the Turkish press office in Nicosia in order to falsely put the blame of the Greek Cypriots and prevent independence negotiations from succeeding. It also began a string of assassinations and murders of prominent Turkish Cypriot supporters of independence.

So the eight individuals were part of an armed group. But they were released in a TMT controlled area by the British and were unarmed at the time. The 8 GC's were murdered by TMT near the village of Geunyeli.

If there is any creditable evidence to contradict this, then please post it...

Re Bafidis. I forgot something. Since you also referred to the same Geunyeli incident, wherefore art though 'credible links'.?

[Paphitis]

Deniz Wrote:

Tragic and foolhardy as it was. What do yo know about the eight who lost their lives. According to the British they were part of a group of GCs ready to carry out an attack on a TC village. Bananiots above post also refers to this. Last year a British Army report was produced here giving an account of the event.

Sorry Deniz, but both Bananiot and yourself have made these statements without supplying any credible evidence.

Could you please provide a link to this British Army report?

This is what Bananiot said:

That is absolute rubbish and those that know better can tell Paphitis that the Brits only tried to save them for they were part of an armed group that organised attacks on TC villages of the area.

This statement means absolutely nothing unless credible evidence is provided.

The statement is also ambiguous as Bananiot claims that the 8 GC's "were part of an armed group that organised attacks on TC villages of the area".

Well, I did not deny that the 8 were not part of an armed group. I did state that the 8 were EOKA members.

This is exactly what I said:

Next the British released from jail eight Greek Cypriot EOKA fighters, forcing them to walk through the Turkish village of Guenyeli, where they were quickly set upon and murdered. Thus began two months of violence by extremists on both sides, killing 56 Greeks and 53 Turks. Tellingly, the British arrested 2,000 Greeks, but only 60 Turks.

And this:

On 12 June 1958 eight innocent unarmed Greek Cypriot civilians from Kondemenos village were murdered by T.M.T. terrorists near the Turkish Cypriot populated village of Geunyeli in an totally unprovoked attack, after being dropped off there by the British authorities. After this the Turkish government ordered the TMT to blow up the offices of the Turkish press office in Nicosia in order to falsely put the blame of the Greek Cypriots and prevent independence negotiations from succeeding. It also began a string of assassinations and murders of prominent Turkish Cypriot supporters of independence.

So the eight individuals were part of an armed group. But they were released in a TMT controlled area by the British and were unarmed at the time. The 8 GC's were murdered by TMT near the village of Geunyeli.

If there is any creditable evidence to contradict this, then please post it...

Re Bafidis. I forgot something. Since you also referred to the same Geunyeli incident, wherefore art though 'credible links'.?

I posted all links in the opening post.....

Can you go easy on the large red fonts? My ears are ringing..

[denizaksulu]

Deniz Wrote:

Tragic and foolhardy as it was. What do yo know about the eight who lost their lives. According to the British they were part of a group of GCs ready to carry out an attack on a TC village. Bananiots above post also refers to this. Last year a British Army report was produced here giving an account of the event.

Sorry Deniz, but both Bananiot and yourself have made these statements without supplying any credible evidence.

Could you please provide a link to this British Army report?

This is what Bananiot said:

That is absolute rubbish and those that know better can tell Paphitis that the Brits only tried to save them for they were part of an armed group that organised attacks on TC villages of the area.

This statement means absolutely nothing unless credible evidence is provided.

The statement is also ambiguous as Bananiot claims that the 8 GC's "were part of an armed group that organised attacks on TC villages of the area".

Well, I did not deny that the 8 were not part of an armed group. I did state that the 8 were EOKA members.

This is exactly what I said:

Next the British released from jail eight Greek Cypriot EOKA fighters, forcing them to walk through the Turkish village of Guenyeli, where they were quickly set upon and murdered. Thus began two months of violence by extremists on both sides, killing 56 Greeks and 53 Turks. Tellingly, the British arrested 2,000 Greeks, but only 60 Turks.

And this:

On 12 June 1958 eight innocent unarmed Greek Cypriot civilians from Kondemenos village were murdered by T.M.T. terrorists near the Turkish Cypriot populated village of Geunyeli in an totally unprovoked attack, after being dropped off there by the British authorities. After this the Turkish government ordered the TMT to blow up the offices of the Turkish press office in Nicosia in order to falsely put the blame of the Greek Cypriots and prevent independence negotiations from succeeding. It also began a string of assassinations and murders of prominent Turkish Cypriot supporters of independence.

So the eight individuals were part of an armed group. But they were released in a TMT controlled area by the British and were unarmed at the time. The 8 GC's were murdered by TMT near the village of Geunyeli.

If there is any creditable evidence to contradict this, then please post it...

Re Bafidis. I forgot something. Since you also referred to the same Geunyeli incident, wherefore art though 'credible links'.?

I posted all links in the opening post.....

Can you go easy on the large red fonts? My ears are ringing..

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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:30 pm

Get Real!
vip



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The 12th June 1958 - The FIRST inter-communal slayings in Cyprus…

It is one second to midnight on the 11th of June 1958, and most Cypriots after a hard day of toiling in the sun, are sleeping unwary of the fact that when the new morning breaks Cyprus will take an historic turn for the worse for it’s on this new coming day, the 12th June 1958 that the relationship of the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities will be tarnished forever by the drawing of FIRST BLOOD!

Quote:
On 12 June 1958 eight innocent and unarmed Greek Cypriot civilians from Kondemenos village were murdered by T.M.T. terrorists near the Turkish populated village of Geunyeli. That was the first incident involving human lives.

http://www.kypros.org/Cyprus_Problem/p_TMT.html

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The Turkish community was whipped into a frenzy by broadcasts from Turkey calling for the partition of Cyprus. Violence between the Turks and Cypriots broke out in early June and climaxed when eight Greeks were massacred in a cornfield near the Turkish village of Geunyeli.

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/war.html

At the request of the British Governor, a 23-page report was later published titled…

”Findings of the Commission of Inquiry into the incidents at Geunyeli Cyprus on 12th June 1958”



…which clearly described the fateful events in great detail and aftermath, although some sections are not very legible due to poor photo copying, and can be found here in PDF format…

http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~durduran/h ... onyeli.pdf

On the 12th of June this year (2008) it will be the 50th anniversary of this darkest of days in the history of Cyprus so please spare a moment for these unfortunate souls…


Regards, GR.


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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:47 pm

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FIRST BLOOD??? what first blood? who's first blood?

HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPLAIN THESE DEATHS?

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/alb ... x1956.html

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/alb ... x1957.html

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/alb ... x1958.html


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Try the above Bafidis. I cant open the vital one as 'Web Sense' our work place censorship will not allow it to open.


The call for help in red was not for your ears. Sorry.

[Paphitis]

Deniz Wrote:

At the request of the British Governor, a 23-page report was later published titled…

”Findings of the Commission of Inquiry into the incidents at Geunyeli Cyprus on 12th June 1958”

…which clearly described the fateful events in great detail and aftermath, although some sections are not very legible due to poor photo copying, and can be found here in PDF format…

http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~durduran/h ... onyeli.pdf

On the 12th of June this year (2008) it will be the 50th anniversary of this darkest of days in the history of Cyprus so please spare a moment for these unfortunate souls…

Thank you Deniz.

From what I gathered from the first 2 pages is that the 8 GC's were in fact dropped off near the TMT controlled village of Guenyeli.

The report states that the British did not consider their safety to be in jeopardy, because no-one was ever attacked in the country side. The British deny that the GC"s were made to run the gauntlet.

But run the gauntlet they did, as they were attacked and murdered allegedly by TMT, or other TCs.

Even if this is true, it was grossly irresponsible for the British to do this and not take the released captives to their own villages and homes.

Why did the British drop them off near Guenyeli? I fear that the report is fabricated.

May they rest in peace.

Deniz Wrote:

FIRST BLOOD??? what first blood? who's first blood?

HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPLAIN THESE DEATHS?

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/alb ... x1956.html

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/alb ... x1957.html

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/alb ... x1958.html

Thanks for the above links as well.

Sadly I am unable to read them, as they are in Turkish. If you find any English links, then please post them.

Some of the pictures depict men in either military or police uniforms. Were some part of the Turkish Auxiliary? I only ask because my mother’s neighbour in Yeroskipos, who was a GC police officer working for the British, was assassinated in his house. My mother actually saw the assassins climbing the back fence of her property to get to the victims house.

May they too rest in peace.