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[zan]

Dear Miltiades....Do yourself a favour and stop locking horns with the likes of Paphidis....These people are blind,because they refuse to see...
They have acquired their false nationalism from ignorant relatives,or from pure propaganda channels...They are as dangerous for peace in Cyprus as those who demanded Enosis and Taksim back in the 50s...At least those in the past didn't have the benefit of hindsight...They could be excused for their treachery....Paphidis and his ilk have no excuses....They are simply pawns in the hands of the foreign powers whose interest is to keep Cypriots divided....

You made a comment earlier about AKEL not supporting Enosis back then,but I think you are mistaken...AKEL was for Enosis with Greece because they hoped Greece would turn communist...This was the main reason a lot of TCs left AKEL back in the 40s and 50s...The other reason was TMT's threats and intimidation tactics....But most TCs didnt need any warning from the TMT...The fact that AKEL supported Enosis was enough...
People like Paphidis will never understand these intricate factors which served the interests of the original 'divide and rule' practitioners...A pity,my dear compatriot...But don't go getting yourself banned again to teach this guy a lesson..He is not worth it...

Bir let me disagree on the support of EOKA by AKEL.
AKEL was anti - EOKA from day one. I was growing up in Ayios Loukas Famagusta and was , even at a the ripe age of 12 an active member of ANE which was the youth movement of EOKA used for transporting written material and instructions or parcels to specific addresses. I remember in Ayios Loukas that the minute EOKA leaflets were dropped they were destroyed by the AKEL youngsters who despised EOKA.
I was at the receiving end when I was drugged of my bike and set upon by these youngsters. The intervention of a young man by the name of Lenin , yes Lenin , his brother was called Stalin, both of these young ment belonged to EOKA and were known in Ayios Loukas, saved me from a certain beating.

May I also state that not a single T/C was killed by AKEL members.

Now thats a bold statement...... Got any proof!!!!

[doesntmatter]

Anymore rudness from you young man and I will get us both banned .

The only person you are capable of banning is yourself you incompetent drunken fool..

Suck your lolly pop little boy , or is it your thumb , you are so.... impressively childish and acutely naive .
The audacity that you exhibit is beyond comprehension . You were born in Australia of Cypriot parents. You embraced Greece since you felt that Cyprus was not good enough for you , inferiority complex by a confident lacking young man , you saw in Greece a nation that you felt comfortable with so you betrayed Cyprus !!!

As someone who was born in Cyprus, you yourself betrayed Cyprus which you have admitted to, that makes you even more of a traitor than Papitis.

[Paphitis]

Doesn'tfuckinghaveanidea wrote:

20,000 Greek soldiers brough to Cyprus to ensure a successful enosis and you come up with this crap.

Papitis, you are funny.

Those Greek troops which were in actual fact only 12,000, where bought in to resist the planned Turkish invasion which would have annexed and partitioned part of the island.

The Turkish bullshit on this forum is horrendous...

[BirKibrisli]

Dear Miltiades....Do yourself a favour and stop locking horns with the likes of Paphidis....These people are blind,because they refuse to see...
They have acquired their false nationalism from ignorant relatives,or from pure propaganda channels...They are as dangerous for peace in Cyprus as those who demanded Enosis and Taksim back in the 50s...At least those in the past didn't have the benefit of hindsight...They could be excused for their treachery....Paphidis and his ilk have no excuses....They are simply pawns in the hands of the foreign powers whose interest is to keep Cypriots divided....

You made a comment earlier about AKEL not supporting Enosis back then,but I think you are mistaken...AKEL was for Enosis with Greece because they hoped Greece would turn communist...This was the main reason a lot of TCs left AKEL back in the 40s and 50s...The other reason was TMT's threats and intimidation tactics....But most TCs didnt need any warning from the TMT...The fact that AKEL supported Enosis was enough...
People like Paphidis will never understand these intricate factors which served the interests of the original 'divide and rule' practitioners...A pity,my dear compatriot...But don't go getting yourself banned again to teach this guy a lesson..He is not worth it...

Bir let me disagree on the support of EOKA by AKEL.
AKEL was anti - EOKA from day one. I was growing up in Ayios Loukas Famagusta and was , even at a the ripe age of 12 an active member of ANE which was the youth movement of EOKA used for transporting written material and instructions or parcels to specific addresses. I remember in Ayios Loukas that the minute EOKA leaflets were dropped they were destroyed by the AKEL youngsters who despised EOKA.
I was at the receiving end when I was drugged of my bike and set upon by these youngsters. The intervention of a young man by the name of Lenin , yes Lenin , his brother was called Stalin, both of these young ment belonged to EOKA and were known in Ayios Loukas, saved me from a certain beating.

May I also state that not a single T/C was killed by AKEL members.

I am sure you are right in your last sentence,miltiades...

But we seem to have got our lines crossed...I was talking about ENOSIS.
Akel did support Enosis initially and tried to get their TC members to agree,arguing that Greece would turn Communist soon and thus Cyprus would find herself in 7th heaven by stealth...

[Get Real!]

Bir let me disagree on the support of EOKA by AKEL.
AKEL was anti - EOKA from day one.

AKEL were just anti-violence but not anti-enosis.

[Paphitis]

The audacity that you exhibit is beyond comprehension .

That is what my wife says..

[Paphitis]

Bir let me disagree on the support of EOKA by AKEL.
AKEL was anti - EOKA from day one.

AKEL were just anti-violence but not anti-enosis.

And yet he still claims to have lived the events but still gets even the basics wrong...

[Get Real!]

Bir let me disagree on the support of EOKA by AKEL.
AKEL was anti - EOKA from day one.

AKEL were just anti-violence but not anti-enosis.

And yet he still claims to have lived the events but still gets even the basics wrong...

He left the country very young and didn't really understand much, not that anything has changed...

[T_C]

Doesn'tfuckinghaveanidea wrote:

20,000 Greek soldiers brough to Cyprus to ensure a successful enosis and you come up with this crap.

Papitis, you are funny.

Those Greek troops which were in actual fact only 12,000, where bought in to resist the planned Turkish invasion which would have annexed and partitioned part of the island.

The Turkish bullshit on this forum is horrendous...

It was you who was claiming that they came to "enforce" Enosis the other day.

Now it's "they came to resist the planned Turkish invasion".

What a joke!

[Paphitis]

Doesn'tfuckinghaveanidea wrote:

20,000 Greek soldiers brough to Cyprus to ensure a successful enosis and you come up with this crap.

Papitis, you are funny.

Those Greek troops which were in actual fact only 12,000, where bought in to resist the planned Turkish invasion which would have annexed and partitioned part of the island.

The Turkish bullshit on this forum is horrendous...

It was you who was claiming that they came to "enforce" Enosis the other day.

Now it's "they came to resist the planned Turkish invasion".

What a joke!

What's wrong?

I stand corrected. I thought that was the whole purpose of debate and having an inquisitive mind for research.

Oracle did state this in another thread:

I agree with you on virtually all these matters Paphitis; no contradictions with what I've read so far.

But I think the emphasis on Enosis, certainly after 1960, is distorted.

From what I can gather on the man, Grivas, I believe his main objective was to remove the inordinate amount of power the Brits and Turks mastered, into the 60's over the Island, and his only ally, in this simmering, continuous war, was Greece. This perpetual Enosis dream attributed to him, sounds like bad publicity spread by the enemies of Cyprus (Britain and Turkey).

Makes perfect sense to me.

There is no credible evidence whatsoever that proves the goal of ENOSIS was maintained post independence.

The presence of the Greek troops was to offer security against TMT separatists, and to provide a deterrence to a possible Turkish Invasion aimed at annexing a part of the island.

The troops were quickly withdrawn when the UN stationed a peacekeeping force on the island.