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Postby doesntmatter » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:54 pm

miltiades wrote:The foreigner wrote:
""""Old man, are you talking to me or your own foreigner kids who stand to attention when a foreign flag is hoisted and sing a foreign national anthem?

Ermmm... your "country"? LOL, you mean the UK or the one you hastily abandoned about 50 years ago and doesn't now want you back because you are not Greek enough? Laughing

You are a waste of time old man. ""
I don't know why I bother with you , perhaps is in my nature to correct assumptions wrongly attributed to my self.
First of all , I , along with thousands of my compatriots emigrated either to the UK or to other parts of the world not in a hastily fashion but in a very orderly and premeditated way , to search for a better standard of living .
My children and my family are my affair and are not on the forum to air their views so kindly leave my family out.
Secondly , I visit Cyprus as often as my circumstances permit and usually I mane about 8 trips a year for mostly long weekends.
In the RoC I have the absolute right to air my views , insult Greece or any other nation without the fear of retribution from the authorities. When asked if I'm from Cyprus my reply is always the same Yes I'm , if pressed to reveal whether a G/C or a T/C I mostly reply " a Cypriot Greek "
My country is Cyprus , I do not see either a Greek or a Turkish Cyprus , realities do tell me that the long history of Cyprus has had much influence from Greece rather than Turkey and that the majority of the Cypriot people are Greek Cypriots . I do not recognise majorities or minorities and I consider all Cypriots to be equal in every sense , just as the Brits in the UK are all equal under the law of the land.
Further more I do not see my self as a minority in the UK having embraced the nation as my own. You ought to try the same approach to Cyprus but there again once a foreigner always a foreigner .


Thank God there are only a few fools like you around.

By the way, you atrted the "foreigner" crap and you are the one who started talking about your family, what I want to know is how you can be so stupid as to call Papidis, and a lot of others,"foreigner" just because he was born outside of Cyprus when your own kids were born outside of Cyprus and also have a foreign mother. :roll:
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:58 pm

A Foreigner is one who lives in Cyprus or doesnt , irrespective whether he or she were born in Cyprus , considers Cyprus as his /her home , demands recognition as an equal citizen of the island of Cyprus , wants a say in the future of this island and yet his allegiance is to a foreign nation. That in itself renders him / her as a foreigner , or if you like a bloody traitor.
By all accounts mate you are a foreigner born or not born in Cyprus !!
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Postby zan » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:08 pm

miltiades wrote:A Foreigner is one who lives in Cyprus or doesnt , irrespective whether he or she were born in Cyprus , considers Cyprus as his /her home , demands recognition as an equal citizen of the island of Cyprus , wants a say in the future of this island and yet his allegiance is to a foreign nation. That in itself renders him / her as a foreigner , or if you like a bloody traitor.
By all accounts mate you are a foreigner born or not born in Cyprus !!


This has not always been your view of a Cypriot though has it Miltiades....A while back the only Cypriots were those in favour of ENOSIS which prompted you to work for EOKA......It seems you are a floating voter in that respect :roll: :lol:

You do remind me of a docu I watched on Auschwitz. A guard remembered what he saw when the "showers" were opened after the first gassing. He said, the Jews had climbed on top of each other (the dead) in order to try and get to a vent at the top of the room. Little did they know that the gas pellets were introduced from that vent. He said the mass of bodies were like a pyramid reaching to the ceiling. Fingers were dug into eyeballs for better grip. It seems to me that you placed the pellets in the vent yourself and ran in shutting the door behind you....
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Postby doesntmatter » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:32 pm

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:A Foreigner is one who lives in Cyprus or doesnt , irrespective whether he or she were born in Cyprus , considers Cyprus as his /her home , demands recognition as an equal citizen of the island of Cyprus , wants a say in the future of this island and yet his allegiance is to a foreign nation. That in itself renders him / her as a foreigner , or if you like a bloody traitor.
By all accounts mate you are a foreigner born or not born in Cyprus !!


This has not always been your view of a Cypriot though has it Miltiades....A while back the only Cypriots were those in favour of ENOSIS which prompted you to work for EOKA......It seems you are a floating voter in that respect :roll: :lol:

You do remind me of a docu I watched on Auschwitz. A guard remembered what he saw when the "showers" were opened after the first gassing. He said, the Jews had climbed on top of each other (the dead) in order to try and get to a vent at the top of the room. Little did they know that the gas pellets were introduced from that vent. He said the mass of bodies were like a pyramid reaching to the ceiling. Fingers were dug into eyeballs for better grip. It seems to me that you placed the pellets in the vent yourself and ran in shutting the door behind you....


Is this where he realsied that the bastards played a joke on him and left him in the room all on his own? :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:17 pm

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:A Foreigner is one who lives in Cyprus or doesnt , irrespective whether he or she were born in Cyprus , considers Cyprus as his /her home , demands recognition as an equal citizen of the island of Cyprus , wants a say in the future of this island and yet his allegiance is to a foreign nation. That in itself renders him / her as a foreigner , or if you like a bloody traitor.
By all accounts mate you are a foreigner born or not born in Cyprus !!


This has not always been your view of a Cypriot though has it Miltiades....A while back the only Cypriots were those in favour of ENOSIS which prompted you to work for EOKA......It seems you are a floating voter in that respect :roll: :lol:

You do remind me of a docu I watched on Auschwitz. A guard remembered what he saw when the "showers" were opened after the first gassing. He said, the Jews had climbed on top of each other (the dead) in order to try and get to a vent at the top of the room. Little did they know that the gas pellets were introduced from that vent. He said the mass of bodies were like a pyramid reaching to the ceiling. Fingers were dug into eyeballs for better grip. It seems to me that you placed the pellets in the vent yourself and ran in shutting the door behind you....

Zan , are you being stupid or what. In 1955 I was 9 years old , at the age of 12 I joined the EOKA youth movement , I supported ENOSIS then.
I'm now a 62 year old man , I was then a green , naive and innocent little boy . I supported EOKA then and to this day I support the struggle against the Brits only the goal of the struggle I no longer support .
How about you mate is it not time to grow up and stop being so persistently ridiculous with your obsession in regards to Enosis , Grivas , Greeks and the ROC. Grow up and stop sulking , the RoC IS recognised , the cowboy creation of the occupying power , a third world power at that, IS NOT .The T/Cs are rebelling , the UK T/Cs ARE SICK TO DEATH WITH THE CORRUPTION AND FOREIGN OCCUPATION OF THEIR COUNTRY.
How do I know , I talk to them I see at least a couple of dozen a week .
They all tell me the same thing , they are Birkibrislies , not "Anatolians "

ps. A while back YOU SAY!!! That was 53 years ago you Plonker !!
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:31 pm

miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:A Foreigner is one who lives in Cyprus or doesnt , irrespective whether he or she were born in Cyprus , considers Cyprus as his /her home , demands recognition as an equal citizen of the island of Cyprus , wants a say in the future of this island and yet his allegiance is to a foreign nation. That in itself renders him / her as a foreigner , or if you like a bloody traitor.
By all accounts mate you are a foreigner born or not born in Cyprus !!


This has not always been your view of a Cypriot though has it Miltiades....A while back the only Cypriots were those in favour of ENOSIS which prompted you to work for EOKA......It seems you are a floating voter in that respect :roll: :lol:

You do remind me of a docu I watched on Auschwitz. A guard remembered what he saw when the "showers" were opened after the first gassing. He said, the Jews had climbed on top of each other (the dead) in order to try and get to a vent at the top of the room. Little did they know that the gas pellets were introduced from that vent. He said the mass of bodies were like a pyramid reaching to the ceiling. Fingers were dug into eyeballs for better grip. It seems to me that you placed the pellets in the vent yourself and ran in shutting the door behind you....

Zan , are you being stupid or what. In 1955 I was 9 years old , at the age of 12 I joined the EOKA youth movement , I supported ENOSIS then.
I'm now a 62 year old man , I was then a green , naive and innocent little boy . I supported EOKA then and to this day I support the struggle against the Brits only the goal of the struggle I no longer support .
How about you mate is it not time to grow up and stop being so persistently ridiculous with your obsession in regards to Enosis , Grivas , Greeks and the ROC. Grow up and stop sulking , the RoC IS recognised , the cowboy creation of the occupying power , a third world power at that, IS NOT .The T/Cs are rebelling , the UK T/Cs ARE SICK TO DEATH WITH THE CORRUPTION AND FOREIGN OCCUPATION OF THEIR COUNTRY.
How do I know , I talk to them I see at least a couple of dozen a week .
They all tell me the same thing , they are Birkibrislies , not "Anatolians "

ps. A while back YOU SAY!!! That was 53 years ago you Plonker !!


Whos rebelling? no one in the TRNC takes these talks and the outcome seriously, with the up coming elections in April it looks like UBP will win then you can kiss a solution goodbye for another 5 years.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:34 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:A Foreigner is one who lives in Cyprus or doesnt , irrespective whether he or she were born in Cyprus , considers Cyprus as his /her home , demands recognition as an equal citizen of the island of Cyprus , wants a say in the future of this island and yet his allegiance is to a foreign nation. That in itself renders him / her as a foreigner , or if you like a bloody traitor.
By all accounts mate you are a foreigner born or not born in Cyprus !!


This has not always been your view of a Cypriot though has it Miltiades....A while back the only Cypriots were those in favour of ENOSIS which prompted you to work for EOKA......It seems you are a floating voter in that respect :roll: :lol:

You do remind me of a docu I watched on Auschwitz. A guard remembered what he saw when the "showers" were opened after the first gassing. He said, the Jews had climbed on top of each other (the dead) in order to try and get to a vent at the top of the room. Little did they know that the gas pellets were introduced from that vent. He said the mass of bodies were like a pyramid reaching to the ceiling. Fingers were dug into eyeballs for better grip. It seems to me that you placed the pellets in the vent yourself and ran in shutting the door behind you....

Zan , are you being stupid or what. In 1955 I was 9 years old , at the age of 12 I joined the EOKA youth movement , I supported ENOSIS then.
I'm now a 62 year old man , I was then a green , naive and innocent little boy . I supported EOKA then and to this day I support the struggle against the Brits only the goal of the struggle I no longer support .
How about you mate is it not time to grow up and stop being so persistently ridiculous with your obsession in regards to Enosis , Grivas , Greeks and the ROC. Grow up and stop sulking , the RoC IS recognised , the cowboy creation of the occupying power , a third world power at that, IS NOT .The T/Cs are rebelling , the UK T/Cs ARE SICK TO DEATH WITH THE CORRUPTION AND FOREIGN OCCUPATION OF THEIR COUNTRY.
How do I know , I talk to them I see at least a couple of dozen a week .
They all tell me the same thing , they are Birkibrislies , not "Anatolians "

ps. A while back YOU SAY!!! That was 53 years ago you Plonker !!


Whos rebelling? no one in the TRNC takes these talks and the outcome seriously, with the up coming elections in April it looks like UBP will win then you kiss a solution goodbye for another 5 years.

VP , without recognition , and it will never come , you wont last mate , Turkey will abandon you , the warlords will take over and the great escape will begin. You mark my words mate .
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:38 pm

miltiades wrote:
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miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:A Foreigner is one who lives in Cyprus or doesnt , irrespective whether he or she were born in Cyprus , considers Cyprus as his /her home , demands recognition as an equal citizen of the island of Cyprus , wants a say in the future of this island and yet his allegiance is to a foreign nation. That in itself renders him / her as a foreigner , or if you like a bloody traitor.
By all accounts mate you are a foreigner born or not born in Cyprus !!


This has not always been your view of a Cypriot though has it Miltiades....A while back the only Cypriots were those in favour of ENOSIS which prompted you to work for EOKA......It seems you are a floating voter in that respect :roll: :lol:

You do remind me of a docu I watched on Auschwitz. A guard remembered what he saw when the "showers" were opened after the first gassing. He said, the Jews had climbed on top of each other (the dead) in order to try and get to a vent at the top of the room. Little did they know that the gas pellets were introduced from that vent. He said the mass of bodies were like a pyramid reaching to the ceiling. Fingers were dug into eyeballs for better grip. It seems to me that you placed the pellets in the vent yourself and ran in shutting the door behind you....

Zan , are you being stupid or what. In 1955 I was 9 years old , at the age of 12 I joined the EOKA youth movement , I supported ENOSIS then.
I'm now a 62 year old man , I was then a green , naive and innocent little boy . I supported EOKA then and to this day I support the struggle against the Brits only the goal of the struggle I no longer support .
How about you mate is it not time to grow up and stop being so persistently ridiculous with your obsession in regards to Enosis , Grivas , Greeks and the ROC. Grow up and stop sulking , the RoC IS recognised , the cowboy creation of the occupying power , a third world power at that, IS NOT .The T/Cs are rebelling , the UK T/Cs ARE SICK TO DEATH WITH THE CORRUPTION AND FOREIGN OCCUPATION OF THEIR COUNTRY.
How do I know , I talk to them I see at least a couple of dozen a week .
They all tell me the same thing , they are Birkibrislies , not "Anatolians "

ps. A while back YOU SAY!!! That was 53 years ago you Plonker !!


Whos rebelling? no one in the TRNC takes these talks and the outcome seriously, with the up coming elections in April it looks like UBP will win then you kiss a solution goodbye for another 5 years.

VP , without recognition , and it will never come , you wont last mate , Turkey will abandon you , the warlords will take over and the great escape will begin. You mark my words mate .


When will all this take place miltiades GCs love this doom and gloom approach but after 35 years of hearing the same mindset it gets very boring. As long as there is no solution the TRNC will stay in place.
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Postby zan » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:46 pm

miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:A Foreigner is one who lives in Cyprus or doesnt , irrespective whether he or she were born in Cyprus , considers Cyprus as his /her home , demands recognition as an equal citizen of the island of Cyprus , wants a say in the future of this island and yet his allegiance is to a foreign nation. That in itself renders him / her as a foreigner , or if you like a bloody traitor.
By all accounts mate you are a foreigner born or not born in Cyprus !!


This has not always been your view of a Cypriot though has it Miltiades....A while back the only Cypriots were those in favour of ENOSIS which prompted you to work for EOKA......It seems you are a floating voter in that respect :roll: :lol:

You do remind me of a docu I watched on Auschwitz. A guard remembered what he saw when the "showers" were opened after the first gassing. He said, the Jews had climbed on top of each other (the dead) in order to try and get to a vent at the top of the room. Little did they know that the gas pellets were introduced from that vent. He said the mass of bodies were like a pyramid reaching to the ceiling. Fingers were dug into eyeballs for better grip. It seems to me that you placed the pellets in the vent yourself and ran in shutting the door behind you....

Zan , are you being stupid or what. In 1955 I was 9 years old , at the age of 12 I joined the EOKA youth movement , I supported ENOSIS then.
I'm now a 62 year old man , I was then a green , naive and innocent little boy . I supported EOKA then and to this day I support the struggle against the Brits only the goal of the struggle I no longer support .
How about you mate is it not time to grow up and stop being so persistently ridiculous with your obsession in regards to Enosis , Grivas , Greeks and the ROC. Grow up and stop sulking , the RoC IS recognised , the cowboy creation of the occupying power , a third world power at that, IS NOT .The T/Cs are rebelling , the UK T/Cs ARE SICK TO DEATH WITH THE CORRUPTION AND FOREIGN OCCUPATION OF THEIR COUNTRY.
How do I know , I talk to them I see at least a couple of dozen a week .
They all tell me the same thing , they are Birkibrislies , not "Anatolians "

ps. A while back YOU SAY!!! That was 53 years ago you Plonker !!


I am not interested in listening to a man who was part of the era that took away my democratic rights and still insists that continues today. Who you talk to is a group of Africa newspaper men who are not representative of the TC people.....If they float your boat then good for you....The real world awaits them and you.


The fact that you and many others try to exclude everyone that does not agree with you as to who is and isn't Cypriot.......As I say...You can pick your place on the pile of dead bodies in the shower......
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:29 pm

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:A Foreigner is one who lives in Cyprus or doesnt , irrespective whether he or she were born in Cyprus , considers Cyprus as his /her home , demands recognition as an equal citizen of the island of Cyprus , wants a say in the future of this island and yet his allegiance is to a foreign nation. That in itself renders him / her as a foreigner , or if you like a bloody traitor.
By all accounts mate you are a foreigner born or not born in Cyprus !!


This has not always been your view of a Cypriot though has it Miltiades....A while back the only Cypriots were those in favour of ENOSIS which prompted you to work for EOKA......It seems you are a floating voter in that respect :roll: :lol:

You do remind me of a docu I watched on Auschwitz. A guard remembered what he saw when the "showers" were opened after the first gassing. He said, the Jews had climbed on top of each other (the dead) in order to try and get to a vent at the top of the room. Little did they know that the gas pellets were introduced from that vent. He said the mass of bodies were like a pyramid reaching to the ceiling. Fingers were dug into eyeballs for better grip. It seems to me that you placed the pellets in the vent yourself and ran in shutting the door behind you....

Zan , are you being stupid or what. In 1955 I was 9 years old , at the age of 12 I joined the EOKA youth movement , I supported ENOSIS then.
I'm now a 62 year old man , I was then a green , naive and innocent little boy . I supported EOKA then and to this day I support the struggle against the Brits only the goal of the struggle I no longer support .
How about you mate is it not time to grow up and stop being so persistently ridiculous with your obsession in regards to Enosis , Grivas , Greeks and the ROC. Grow up and stop sulking , the RoC IS recognised , the cowboy creation of the occupying power , a third world power at that, IS NOT .The T/Cs are rebelling , the UK T/Cs ARE SICK TO DEATH WITH THE CORRUPTION AND FOREIGN OCCUPATION OF THEIR COUNTRY.
How do I know , I talk to them I see at least a couple of dozen a week .
They all tell me the same thing , they are Birkibrislies , not "Anatolians "

ps. A while back YOU SAY!!! That was 53 years ago you Plonker !!


I am not interested in listening to a man who was part of the era that took away my democratic rights and still insists that continues today. Who you talk to is a group of Africa newspaper men who are not representative of the TC people.....If they float your boat then good for you....The real world awaits them and you.


The fact that you and many others try to exclude everyone that does not agree with you as to who is and isn't Cypriot.......As I say...You can pick your place on the pile of dead bodies in the shower......

You are full of hatred and you can not see that the T/Cs see right through you mate.
The people I talk to come from all walks of life , they are all fed up to the teeth with the parasites living on their island imported by the army who is constantly squeezing the life out of the T/C .
They are proud Cypriots who want all of their island back just as I do , who put the blame squarely on the malignant growths , The Turko-Greco growth that has been struggling our people for so long.
You and others like you have the audacity to question the existence of the Cypriot people , you are at liberty to depart from the shores of this Cypriot land , take your flags , Greek and Turkish and go please and leave us Cypriots to get on with preparing the ground for the future generations of Cypriots .
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