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Turkey - A Regional Power according to Wikipedia!!!!

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:41 am

18.56% of Turks live below the poverty line. A further 0.54% of Turks live below the Hunger Line.

18 percent of Turks below poverty line, TurkStat states
More than 18 percent of the Turkish population lived below the poverty line in 2007 while around 0.5 percent lived below the hunger line, according to a recent statement released by the Turkish Statistics Institute (TurkStat).
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TurkStat released its 2007 Poverty Study yesterday. According to the study, posted on the TurkStat Web site, 18.56 percent of the Turkish population lives below the poverty line, which refers to the minimum amount a family needs in order to pay its rent and meet its basic needs, such as food, transportation, clothing and education. Another 0.54 percent of Turks live below the hunger line, the monthly cost to adequately feed a family. Around 0.74 percent of the population was below the hunger line in 2006, and the percentage of those below the poverty line was 17.81 percent.

The hunger level for a family of four was calculated as YTL 237 in 2007, and the poverty level was YTL 619. The survey also revealed that people living in rural areas are poorer compared to those living in urban areas.

While the amount of people in rural areas living below the poverty line was 32.18 percent in 2007, it was 10.61 percent for those living in urban areas.

The rate of poverty is, understandably, directly related to the number of family members. While the poverty rate for families of three or four members was 9.28 percent last year, this figure was 42.07 percent for families with seven or more members.

A family's economic status is also related to the sector in which the family's breadwinners work. Those working in the agricultural sector are most likely to face the risk of poverty, with 30.22 percent under the poverty line in 2007. Around 10 percent of those working in the industrial sector were living in poverty while this figure was 7.83 for those in the service sector. The rate of poverty among families whose members were in search of jobs was 26.56 percent.

The more educated the members of a family, the more likely the family is to be prosperous, according to the survey. While 34.76 percent of families who are illiterate were below the poverty line in 2007, this figure was 14.9 for primary school graduates, 8.16 for high school graduates and 0.9 for university graduates.

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http://en.timeturk.com/18-percent-of-Tu ... aberi.html

According to Wikipedia, the population of Turkey is 71,892,808.

Since the above Turkish Link tells us that 19.1% of the Turkish population is living beneath the Poverty or Hunger line, then we are able to deduce the following:

Turkey has a total of 71,892,808*0.191 = 13,731,526 citizens below the poverty line.

According to Wikipedia, Turkey is considered a Regional Power...Image

I think the above information proves beyond any doubt that Turkey is definitely no regional power as it is proven incapable of feeding her own people...
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:55 am

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Vagrants queueing up at a New York soup kitchen - photograph taken in the autumn of 2008.

Your logic does not apply. A country can be a world power, and yet some of its citizens may live in abject poverty, or even destitution.
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Postby observer » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:57 am

21.8% of Britains live below the poverty line.

23.8% of US citizens live below the poverty line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in ... ed_Kingdom

I think this definitely proves beyond any doubt that neither UK nor USA are regional powers ................ uh?

......... or it may just prove that statistics are wonderful things.
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Postby observer » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:06 am

The latest figures that I can find for RoC, after the quickest of searches, is here: http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/ewco/200 ... 10059I.htm indicating that in 2003, 21.4% of RoC citizens lived beneath the poverty line.

At 18.56%, Turkey seems to be doing rather well.

........... don't you just love these statisticians?
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:15 am

observer wrote:21.8% of Britains live below the poverty line.

23.8% of US citizens live below the poverty line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in ... ed_Kingdom

I think this definitely proves beyond any doubt that neither UK nor USA are regional powers ................ uh?

......... or it may just prove that statistics are wonderful things.


Once again, this einstein keeps persisting with using Wikipedia as a credible source... Image

Rank Country GDP - per capita (PPP) Date of Information
1 Qatar $ 87,600 2007 est.
2 Luxembourg $ 79,400 2007 est.
3 Bermuda $ 69,900 2004 est.
4 Jersey $ 57,000 2005 est.
5 Kuwait $ 55,900 2007 est.
6 Norway $ 53,300 2007 est.
7 Brunei $ 51,000 2007 est.
8 Singapore $ 49,900 2007 est.
9 Ireland $ 46,600 2007 est.
10 United States $ 45,800 2007 est.
11 Guernsey $ 44,600 2005
12 Cayman Islands $ 43,800 2004 est.
13 Hong Kong $ 42,000 2007 est.
14 Iceland $ 40,400 2007 est.
15 Switzerland $ 40,100 2007 est.
16 Austria $ 39,300 2007 est.
17 Netherlands $ 39,000 2007 est.
18 Andorra $ 38,800 2005
19 Canada $ 38,600 2007 est.
20 British Virgin Islands $ 38,500 2004 est.
21 Gibraltar $ 38,200 2005 est.
22 Sweden $ 37,500 2007 est.
23 Australia $ 37,300 2007 est.
24 Denmark $ 37,200 2007 est.
25 United Arab Emirates $ 37,000 2007 est.
26 Belgium $ 36,200 2007 est.
27 Finland $ 36,000 2007 est.
28 Isle of Man $ 35,000 2005 est.
29 United Kingdom $ 35,000 2007 est.
30 Germany $ 34,100 2007 est.
31 San Marino $ 34,100 2004 est.
32 Bahrain $ 33,900 2007 est.
33 Spain $ 33,600 2007 est.
34 Japan $ 33,500 2007 est.
35 European Union $ 32,700 2007 est.
36 France $ 32,600 2007 est.
37 Faroe Islands $ 31,000 2001 est.
38 Italy $ 30,900 2007 est.
39 Greece $ 30,600 2007 est.
40 Taiwan $ 30,100 2007 est.
41 Monaco $ 30,000 2006 est.
42 Macau $ 28,400 2006
43 Equatorial Guinea $ 28,200 2007 est.
44 Bahamas, The $ 28,000 2007 est.
45 Slovenia $ 28,000 2007 est.
46 New Zealand $ 27,200 2007 est.
47 Cyprus $ 27,100 2007 est.
48 Israel $ 26,600 2007 est.
49 Trinidad and Tobago $ 25,400 2007 est.
50 Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) $ 25,000 2002 est.
51 Liechtenstein $ 25,000 1999 est.
52 Korea, South $ 25,000 2007 est.
53 Czech Republic $ 24,500 2007 est.
54 Malta $ 23,400 2007 est.
55 Aruba $ 21,800 2004 est.
56 Portugal $ 21,800 2007 est.
57 Estonia $ 21,800 2007 est.
58 Slovakia $ 20,200 2007 est.
59 Greenland $ 20,000 2001 est.
60 Saudi Arabia $ 19,800 2007 est.
61 Hungary $ 19,300 2007 est.
62 Oman $ 19,000 2007 est.
63 Barbados $ 18,900 2007 est.
64 Puerto Rico $ 18,400 2007 est.
65 Antigua and Barbuda $ 18,300 2007 est.
66 Latvia $ 17,700 2007 est.
67 French Polynesia $ 17,500 2003 est.
68 Lithuania $ 16,800 2007 est.
69 Seychelles $ 16,600 2007 est.
70 Poland $ 16,200 2007 est.
71 Netherlands Antilles $ 16,000 2004 est.
72 Croatia $ 15,500 2007 est.
73 Guam $ 15,000 2005 est.
74 New Caledonia $ 15,000 2003 est.
75 Russia $ 14,800 2007 est.
76 Malaysia $ 14,500 2007 est.
77 Virgin Islands $ 14,500 2004 est.
78 Botswana $ 14,300 2007 est.
79 Chile $ 14,300 2007 est.
80 Gabon $ 14,000 2007 est.
81 Saint Kitts and Nevis $ 13,900 2007 est.
82 Argentina $ 13,100 2007 est.
83 Venezuela $ 12,800 2007 est.
84 Northern Mariana Islands $ 12,500 2000 est.
85 Libya $ 12,400 2007 est.
86 Mexico $ 12,400 2007 est.
87 Turkey $ 12,000 2007 est.
88 Bulgaria $ 11,800 2007 est.
89 Iran $ 11,700 2007 est.
90 Turks and Caicos Islands $ 11,500 2002 est.
91 Mauritius $ 11,300 2007 est.
92 Costa Rica $ 11,100 2007 est.
93 Romania $ 11,100 2007 est.
94 Cuba $ 11,000 2007 est.
95 Kazakhstan $ 11,000 2007 est.
96 Uruguay $ 10,800 2007 est.
97 Panama $ 10,700 2007 est.
98 Saint Lucia $ 10,700 2007 est.
99 Belarus $ 10,600 2007 est.
100 Grenada $ 10,500 2007 est.
101 Serbia $ 10,400 2007 est.
102 Lebanon $ 10,300 2007 est.
103 World $ 10,000 2007 est.
104 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines $ 9,800 2007 est.
105 South Africa $ 9,700 2007 est.
106 Brazil $ 9,500 2007 est.
107 Cook Islands $ 9,100 2005 est.
108 Dominica $ 9,000 2007 est.
109 Anguilla $ 8,800 2004 est.
110 Suriname $ 8,700 2007 est.
111 Macedonia $ 8,400 2007 est.
112 Azerbaijan $ 8,000 2007 est.
113 Thailand $ 8,000 2007 est.
114 Belize $ 7,900 2007 est.
115 Angola $ 7,800 2007 est.
116 Peru $ 7,600 2007 est.
117 Palau $ 7,600 2005 est.
118 Colombia $ 7,400 2007 est.
119 Jamaica $ 7,400 2007 est.
120 Tunisia $ 7,400 2007 est.
121 Ecuador $ 7,200 2007 est.
122 Saint Pierre and Miquelon $ 7,000 2001 est.
123 Ukraine $ 7,000 2007 est.
124 Algeria $ 6,700 2007 est.
125 Dominican Republic $ 6,600 2007 est.
126 Bosnia and Herzegovina $ 6,100 2007 est.
127 El Salvador $ 6,000 2007 est.
128 Albania $ 5,800 2007 est.
129 Armenia $ 5,800 2007 est.
130 American Samoa $ 5,800 2005 est.
131 Niue $ 5,800 2003 est.
132 China $ 5,400 2007 est.
133 Samoa $ 5,400 2007 est.
134 Turkmenistan $ 5,300 2007 est.
135 Bhutan $ 5,200 2007 est.
136 Namibia $ 5,200 2007 est.
137 Guatemala $ 5,100 2007 est.
138 Tonga $ 5,100 2007 est.
139 Egypt $ 5,000 2007 est.
140 Nauru $ 5,000 2005 est.
141 Mayotte $ 4,900 2005 est.
142 Jordan $ 4,700 2007 est.
143 Swaziland $ 4,700 2007 est.
144 Syria $ 4,700 2007 est.
145 Maldives $ 4,600 2007 est.
146 Bolivia $ 4,400 2007 est.
147 Georgia $ 4,400 2007 est.
148 Honduras $ 4,300 2007 est.
149 Sri Lanka $ 4,000 2007 est.
150 Paraguay $ 4,000 2007 est.
151 Fiji $ 3,900 2007 est.
152 Vanuatu $ 3,900 2007 est.
153 Montenegro $ 3,800 2005 est.
154 Wallis and Futuna $ 3,800 2004 est.
155 Guyana $ 3,700 2007 est.
156 Morocco $ 3,700 2007 est.
157 Iraq $ 3,700 2007 est.
158 Indonesia $ 3,600 2007 est.
159 Kiribati $ 3,600 2007 est.
160 Congo, Republic of the $ 3,400 2007 est.
161 Montserrat $ 3,400 2002 est.
162 Cape Verde $ 3,200 2007 est.
163 Philippines $ 3,200 2007 est.
164 Mongolia $ 2,900 2007 est.
165 Marshall Islands $ 2,900 2005 est.
166 Nicaragua $ 2,800 2007 est.
167 India $ 2,600 2007 est.
168 Vietnam $ 2,600 2007 est.
169 Saint Helena $ 2,500 1998 est.
170 Timor-Leste $ 2,500 2007 est.
171 Yemen $ 2,500 2007 est.
172 Pakistan $ 2,400 2007 est.
173 Uzbekistan $ 2,400 2007 est.
174 Djibouti $ 2,300 2007 est.
175 Micronesia, Federated States of $ 2,300 2005 est.
176 Moldova $ 2,300 2007 est.
177 Cameroon $ 2,200 2007 est.
178 Nigeria $ 2,100 2007 est.
179 Papua New Guinea $ 2,100 2007 est.
180 Kyrgyzstan $ 2,000 2007 est.
181 Laos $ 2,000 2007 est.
182 Burma $ 1,900 2007 est.
183 Solomon Islands $ 1,900 2007 est.
184 Sudan $ 1,900 2007 est.
185 Cambodia $ 1,900 2007 est.
186 Kosovo $ 1,800 2007 est.
187 Mauritania $ 1,800 2007 est.
188 Cote d'Ivoire $ 1,700 2007 est.
189 Korea, North $ 1,700 2007 est.
190 Kenya $ 1,700 2007 est.
191 Senegal $ 1,700 2007 est.
192 Tajikistan $ 1,600 2007 est.
193 Sao Tome and Principe $ 1,600 2007 est.
194 Tuvalu $ 1,600 2002 est.
195 Chad $ 1,500 2007 est.
196 Bangladesh $ 1,400 2007 est.
197 Zambia $ 1,400 2007 est.
198 Benin $ 1,400 2007 est.
199 Lesotho $ 1,400 2007 est.
200 Ghana $ 1,400 2007 est.
201 Haiti $ 1,300 2007 est.
202 Tanzania $ 1,300 2007 est.
203 Gambia, The $ 1,200 2007 est.
204 Burkina Faso $ 1,200 2007 est.
205 Comoros $ 1,100 2007 est.
206 Guinea $ 1,100 2007 est.
207 West Bank $ 1,100 2006 est.
208 Mali $ 1,100 2007 est.
209 Gaza Strip $ 1,100 2006 est.
210 Afghanistan $ 1,000 2007 est.
211 Uganda $ 1,000 2007 est.
212 Nepal $ 1,000 2007 est.
213 Tokelau $ 1,000 1993 est.
214 Madagascar $ 900 2007 est.
215 Togo $ 900 2007 est.
216 Eritrea $ 800 2007 est.
217 Rwanda $ 800 2007 est.
218 Malawi $ 800 2007 est.
219 Mozambique $ 800 2007 est.
220 Central African Republic $ 700 2007 est.
221 Niger $ 700 2007 est.
222 Ethiopia $ 700 2007 est.
223 Guinea-Bissau $ 600 2007 est.
224 Sierra Leone $ 600 2007 est.
225 Somalia $ 600 2007 est.
226 Liberia $ 500 2007 est.
227 Burundi $ 300 2007 est.
228 Congo, Democratic Republic of the $ 300 2007 est.
229 Zimbabwe $ 200 2007 est.


https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... 4rank.html

What kind of regional power is Turkey if her GDP per capita is ranked 88th in the world, behind Greece, Cyprus, Mexico, Gabon, Botswana, Poland etc etc.....Image
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Postby turkkan » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:16 am

The poverty line is defined by IMF as dollar a day and theirs a lot of debate on what that statistic actually represents. TUrkey has a massive black economy where a lot of people work unoffically and that is not included in the official statistics. I doubt you will find anyone who denies that turkey has a big working class who do not lead an easy life at all. What distinguishes it from a lot of other countries in the region such as Iran is the rapidly rising number of people who are can be defined as 'middle class' and that is the main driving factor behind the impressive growth in its economy the past couple of years. IN terms of wealth, just last week istanbul was voted to have the most number of millionaries in the world living alone in that city. YOur analysis is quite lacking.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:20 am

turkkan wrote:The poverty line is defined by IMF as dollar a day and theirs a lot of debate on what that statistic actually represents. TUrkey has a massive black economy where a lot of people work unoffically and that is not included in the official statistics. I doubt you will find anyone who denies that turkey has a big working class who do not lead an easy life at all. What distinguishes it from a lot of other countries in the region such as Iran is the rapidly rising number of people who are can be defined as 'middle class' and that is the main driving factor behind the impressive growth in its economy the past couple of years. IN terms of wealth, just last week istanbul was voted to have the most number of millionaries in the world living alone in that city. YOur analysis is quite lacking.


They same the same thing about India. They say that India has the largest "middle class" in the world and the fastes growing number of millionaires, but this does not change the fact that both India and Turkey are 2 very poor countries.... :(
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Postby kafenes » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:23 am

observer wrote:The latest figures that I can find for RoC, after the quickest of searches, is here: http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/ewco/200 ... 10059I.htm indicating that in 2003, 21.4% of RoC citizens lived beneath the poverty line.

At 18.56%, Turkey seems to be doing rather well.

........... don't you just love these statisticians?


21.4% must be referring to TC population. :)
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Postby observer » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:25 am

... so if I follow Paphitis' reasoning, Qatar, with a GDP per capita of $ 87,600, is the world's major superpower - nice try!
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:27 am

observer wrote:The latest figures that I can find for RoC, after the quickest of searches, is here: http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/ewco/200 ... 10059I.htm indicating that in 2003, 21.4% of RoC citizens lived beneath the poverty line.

At 18.56%, Turkey seems to be doing rather well.

........... don't you just love these statisticians?


I am sure that if we got some statistics going back to the 1950s, then we would find a far larger percentage of persons living below the poverty line.... :lol:

This link does not count as it is far too outdated... :lol:
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