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[DT.]

You see I take issue with your figures. TC had 33% of the land. It has nothing to do with politics. The 18% was the population at 1963. These are the unreasonable demands from the GC side. You are being deliberately woolly to soot your side which in my book is unfair. Why should the turkish side accept less than 33% percent of the land, which they had in the past, and people like me did not object in the interst of all of Cyprus.

I disagree with your analysis. This time he who walks away will loose. Neither can afford to walk away. If it reaches a stalemate than its partition. Neither want that I hope, hence logic says that it will not get too stalemate. There will be an agreement. I believe DISY will back the agreement, will AKEL do the same. That is the biggest obstacle to peace.

Here we go!

Can you please show me how you know the TC's had 33% of the land?

He must of got it from Disnerland's Land Registry or Wikipedia....

You are very good at investigation, I am fairly sure you can do that yourself. But do not worry; it will all come out in the wash. The property issue is up for negotiations next week.

You've just posted a very controversial claim that the TC's owned 33% of the island. Could you please provide us with some evidence on this or should I continue in the same manner as yourself and claim that the Nazi's were really volunteer Turks rather than conscripted Germans?

Please read my post. It will all by on the negotiating table next week. Surely its not that long to wait? There are maps. These m maps will be put on the table. They will announce exactly how much we had and how much we are going to receive in an agreement situation.

What? are you saying that we only had 18%. Since when did 18% population=18% land.
The chance mathematically of that being true is billions to one and I am no statistician, just a guessing. Or should we be starting too teach you maths now. Your ancestors will turn in their graves with your ignorance.

Goodbye.

Not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying private property in the hands of the TC's was 12%.

Now show me where you got this figure of 33% because it can't be from the maps they will submit next week...have you time travelled and seen them?

[denizaksulu]

You see I take issue with your figures. TC had 33% of the land. It has nothing to do with politics. The 18% was the population at 1963. These are the unreasonable demands from the GC side. You are being deliberately woolly to soot your side which in my book is unfair. Why should the turkish side accept less than 33% percent of the land, which they had in the past, and people like me did not object in the interst of all of Cyprus.

I disagree with your analysis. This time he who walks away will loose. Neither can afford to walk away. If it reaches a stalemate than its partition. Neither want that I hope, hence logic says that it will not get too stalemate. There will be an agreement. I believe DISY will back the agreement, will AKEL do the same. That is the biggest obstacle to peace.

Here we go!

Can you please show me how you know the TC's had 33% of the land?

He must of got it from Disnerland's Land Registry or Wikipedia....

You are very good at investigation, I am fairly sure you can do that yourself. But do not worry; it will all come out in the wash. The property issue is up for negotiations next week.

You've just posted a very controversial claim that the TC's owned 33% of the island. Could you please provide us with some evidence on this or should I continue in the same manner as yourself and claim that the Nazi's were really volunteer Turks rather than conscripted Germans?

Please read my post. It will all by on the negotiating table next week. Surely its not that long to wait? There are maps. These m maps will be put on the table. They will announce exactly how much we had and how much we are going to receive in an agreement situation.

What? are you saying that we only had 18%. Since when did 18% population=18% land.
The chance mathematically of that being true is billions to one and I am no statistician, just a guessing. Or should we be starting too teach you maths now. Your ancestors will turn in their graves with your ignorance.

Goodbye.

Not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying private property in the hands of the TC's was 12%.

Now show me where you got this figure of 33% because it can't be from the maps they will submit next week...have you time travelled and seen them?

DT, do you remember someone produced the RoC Land Registry, land distribution data. Any idea who posted it?. It can only be from a GC. I cant find it. Yet

[Bananiot]

Paphitis, GR, DT, you do realise that if the Cyprus issue was left up to the Bananiots and the YFreds of this island there would be no issue in the first place. YFred is a moderate TC who came here with good intend, yet you never made an effort to even begin to understand him. Just like your proteges (Papadopoulos, Sampson, Yiorgadjis et al) you are continuing to alienate the decent Turkish Cypriots and throwing them gift-wrapped to the nationalists within the TC community and Turkey. This is prime example of the treacherous game you are playing. We have lost half our country (GC's and TC's) because of this attitude yet you carry on as though nothing has happened, until we lose everything.

YFred, I had the privilage to be a friend with the late Ozgur. His vision for Cyprus will eventually blind the bigots and this island will be saved. Do not give up hope.

[Get Real!]

Paphitis, GR, DT, you do realise that if the Cyprus issue was left up to the Bananiots and the YFreds of this island there would be no issue in the first place. YFred is a moderate TC who came here with good intend, yet you never made an effort to even begin to understand him. Just like your proteges (Papadopoulos, Sampson, Yiorgadjis et al) you are continuing to alienate the decent Turkish Cypriots and throwing them gift-wrapped to the nationalists within the TC community and Turkey. This is prime example of the treacherous game you are playing. We have lost half our country (GC's and TC's) because of this attitude yet you carry on as though nothing has happened, until we lose everything.

As far as I’m concerned, anyone who still proposes and/or supports undemocratic political arrangements is no different to the TMT, EOKA B, or any other trouble maker you may care to mention from the past as they all lead to catastrophe… I don’t see a “moderate” in this character or yourself.

[Bananiot]

Thank God!

[DT.]

Paphitis, GR, DT, you do realise that if the Cyprus issue was left up to the Bananiots and the YFreds of this island there would be no issue in the first place. YFred is a moderate TC who came here with good intend, yet you never made an effort to even begin to understand him. Just like your proteges (Papadopoulos, Sampson, Yiorgadjis et al) you are continuing to alienate the decent Turkish Cypriots and throwing them gift-wrapped to the nationalists within the TC community and Turkey. This is prime example of the treacherous game you are playing. We have lost half our country (GC's and TC's) because of this attitude yet you carry on as though nothing has happened, until we lose everything.

YFred, I had the privilage to be a friend with the late Ozgur. His vision for Cyprus will eventually blind the bigots and this island will be saved. Do not give up hope.

This moderate is claiming that 33% of the land was TC and there is no land issue to solve. Enjoy each other.

I suggest you go read what this moderate has been doing for the past couple of days banana. Had he been a GC you'd be all over him like a fly on shit. Instead you stand by this d***head.

[zan]

Paphitis, GR, DT, you do realise that if the Cyprus issue was left up to the Bananiots and the YFreds of this island there would be no issue in the first place. YFred is a moderate TC who came here with good intend, yet you never made an effort to even begin to understand him. Just like your proteges (Papadopoulos, Sampson, Yiorgadjis et al) you are continuing to alienate the decent Turkish Cypriots and throwing them gift-wrapped to the nationalists within the TC community and Turkey. This is prime example of the treacherous game you are playing. We have lost half our country (GC's and TC's) because of this attitude yet you carry on as though nothing has happened, until we lose everything.

As far as I’m concerned, anyone who still proposes and/or supports undemocratic political arrangements is no different to the TMT, EOKA B, or any other trouble maker you may care to mention from the past as they all lead to catastrophe… I don’t see a “moderate” in this character or yourself.

Great isn't it...An agreed reunification will work but an agreed separation will not....



It only takes one side to bring it down......

[YFred]

Paphitis, GR, DT, you do realise that if the Cyprus issue was left up to the Bananiots and the YFreds of this island there would be no issue in the first place. YFred is a moderate TC who came here with good intend, yet you never made an effort to even begin to understand him. Just like your proteges (Papadopoulos, Sampson, Yiorgadjis et al) you are continuing to alienate the decent Turkish Cypriots and throwing them gift-wrapped to the nationalists within the TC community and Turkey. This is prime example of the treacherous game you are playing. We have lost half our country (GC's and TC's) because of this attitude yet you carry on as though nothing has happened, until we lose everything.

YFred, I had the privilage to be a friend with the late Ozgur. His vision for Cyprus will eventually blind the bigots and this island will be saved. Do not give up hope.

Thank you. I only met him once. What a man. I don’t know how well you know Talat, but I belive he is the same. I am just sorry Ozgur is not here to see the result by the end of this year, where the Cypriots will win. No I will not give up. With the bastard I become abastard. Unfortunatly with the fools we have lower ourselves to show all the decent greeks what they are like.
I am thick skinned, determined and pationate about Lurucina and Cyprus on equal measure.

Fight goes on in Obama Style. Yes we can. I just wonder how long before the first decent GC will pluck the courage to put their on their signature “Yes we can”. They can add “Even if hell frizzes if they want”. You see we had “Bu Memleket Bizim “ campaign. I don’t suppose they understood what we ment.
Its easier for us.

[YFred]

Paphitis, GR, DT, you do realise that if the Cyprus issue was left up to the Bananiots and the YFreds of this island there would be no issue in the first place. YFred is a moderate TC who came here with good intend, yet you never made an effort to even begin to understand him. Just like your proteges (Papadopoulos, Sampson, Yiorgadjis et al) you are continuing to alienate the decent Turkish Cypriots and throwing them gift-wrapped to the nationalists within the TC community and Turkey. This is prime example of the treacherous game you are playing. We have lost half our country (GC's and TC's) because of this attitude yet you carry on as though nothing has happened, until we lose everything.

As far as I’m concerned, anyone who still proposes and/or supports undemocratic political arrangements is no different to the TMT, EOKA B, or any other trouble maker you may care to mention from the past as they all lead to catastrophe… I don’t see a “moderate” in this character or yourself.

Great isn't it...An agreed reunification will work but an agreed separation will not....



It only takes one side to bring it down......

Have you ever seen a marriage which is one sided. How long does it last. Of course we need to work on it and look out for those who are trying to wreck it. What ever the Agreement today, I belive that Talat’s vision is for unification eventually. You have to be a CTP to understand that. CTP has not been labelled by Denktas’s cronies as Greek lover for nothing.

[zan]

Paphitis, GR, DT, you do realise that if the Cyprus issue was left up to the Bananiots and the YFreds of this island there would be no issue in the first place. YFred is a moderate TC who came here with good intend, yet you never made an effort to even begin to understand him. Just like your proteges (Papadopoulos, Sampson, Yiorgadjis et al) you are continuing to alienate the decent Turkish Cypriots and throwing them gift-wrapped to the nationalists within the TC community and Turkey. This is prime example of the treacherous game you are playing. We have lost half our country (GC's and TC's) because of this attitude yet you carry on as though nothing has happened, until we lose everything.

As far as I’m concerned, anyone who still proposes and/or supports undemocratic political arrangements is no different to the TMT, EOKA B, or any other trouble maker you may care to mention from the past as they all lead to catastrophe… I don’t see a “moderate” in this character or yourself.

Great isn't it...An agreed reunification will work but an agreed separation will not....



It only takes one side to bring it down......

Have you ever seen a marriage which is one sided. How long does it last. Of course we need to work on it and look out for those who are trying to wreck it. What ever the Agreement today, I belive that Talat’s vision is for unification eventually. You have to be a CTP to understand that. CTP has not been labelled by Denktas’s cronies as Greek lover for nothing.

Agreed, but what does wrecking it mean ? If one side doesn't agree with the demands of the other then its a failure thats all.