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Postby Byron » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:58 pm

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Nikitas wrote:A thorn in the side of the EU? Can you name one, just one, single instance when Cyprus did not follow the EU majority line and did not agree with a proposal in EU discussions? I can't. So far Cyprus has been the good boy in the EU, in fact the best when compared to more assertive and self centered states like Poland, the UK and the Chech republic.


You have sucessfully forced a divided island into the EU, Id call that a very big thorn in the side of the EU, no other country like it.


From a legal point of view the island is not divided however part of it is illegally occupied.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:12 pm

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Nikitas wrote:A thorn in the side of the EU? Can you name one, just one, single instance when Cyprus did not follow the EU majority line and did not agree with a proposal in EU discussions? I can't. So far Cyprus has been the good boy in the EU, in fact the best when compared to more assertive and self centered states like Poland, the UK and the Chech republic.


You have sucessfully forced a divided island into the EU, Id call that a very big thorn in the side of the EU, no other country like it.


From a legal point of view the island is not divided however part of it is illegally occupied.


Is ıt still a problem for the EU, some have even stated it was a big mistake to take the island prior to solving the problem, it is a big thorn and will continue that way to cause the EU a great deal of headache for many years to come they can hardly be expected to thank you for it.
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Postby wallace » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:04 pm

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Nikitas wrote:A thorn in the side of the EU? Can you name one, just one, single instance when Cyprus did not follow the EU majority line and did not agree with a proposal in EU discussions? I can't. So far Cyprus has been the good boy in the EU, in fact the best when compared to more assertive and self centered states like Poland, the UK and the Chech republic.


You have sucessfully forced a divided island into the EU, Id call that a very big thorn in the side of the EU, no other country like it.


From a legal point of view the island is not divided however part of it is illegally occupied.


Is ıt still a problem for the EU, some have even stated it was a big mistake to take the island prior to solving the problem, it is a big thorn and will continue that way to cause the EU a great deal of headache for many years to come they can hardly be expected to thank you for it.


Mistake or no mistake.....we are a member and they won't be able to kick the RoC out of the EU and we have veto rights. We don't need them to thank us......we need them to stand besides us to resolve the CY problem in good matter for all the Cypriots. Not for the greeks nor the turks. :D
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:41 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:When the time is right do you think the EU will choose little old 800.000 GC south Cyprus market or 80.000.000 market of Turkey? No competition economics will force everyone hand and the GC will not be happy bunnies, lets hope they continue with their current mindset.


I'm sorry to disagree with you VP, but on average, Turkey's 80 Million is no benefit to the EU at all, if the people of Turkey can't afford to purchase products made in Europe. Most can barely afford what is produced in Turkey.!


An aging EU population needs the youth of Turkey to pay for their pensions, working with a constantly developing Turkey in 10 years time will be much more beneficial to the EU than south Cyprus who is still a thorn in the side of the EU.


The EU can import cheap labour all it's wants from Turkey if needed. How does that help Turkey to get into the EU. It really doesn't.? The EU will be saying, "why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for very cheap". It definitely be more cost effective for the EU not to become a "welfare state" for Turkey's poor.! Having said all that, I hope Turkey does get in once she has meet all her obligations to her own people and country as well as others. Don't forget, that the last report that came out couple of months ago made the claim, that Turkey needed the EU 7 times more than the EU needed Turkey. You do the math.!
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:54 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:A thorn in the side of the EU? Can you name one, just one, single instance when Cyprus did not follow the EU majority line and did not agree with a proposal in EU discussions? I can't. So far Cyprus has been the good boy in the EU, in fact the best when compared to more assertive and self centered states like Poland, the UK and the Chech republic.


You have sucessfully forced a divided island into the EU, Id call that a very big thorn in the side of the EU, no other country like it.


From a legal point of view the island is not divided however part of it is illegally occupied.


Is ıt still a problem for the EU, some have even stated it was a big mistake to take the island prior to solving the problem, it is a big thorn and will continue that way to cause the EU a great deal of headache for many years to come they can hardly be expected to thank you for it.


Mistake or no mistake.....we are a member and they won't be able to kick the RoC out of the EU and we have veto rights. We don't need them to thank us......we need them to stand besides us to resolve the CY problem in good matter for all the Cypriots. Not for the greeks nor the turks. :D


Dont see that materializing as its been 4 years and the solution you expected the EU to hand you on a plate is nowhere to be seen.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:56 pm

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Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:When the time is right do you think the EU will choose little old 800.000 GC south Cyprus market or 80.000.000 market of Turkey? No competition economics will force everyone hand and the GC will not be happy bunnies, lets hope they continue with their current mindset.


I'm sorry to disagree with you VP, but on average, Turkey's 80 Million is no benefit to the EU at all, if the people of Turkey can't afford to purchase products made in Europe. Most can barely afford what is produced in Turkey.!


An aging EU population needs the youth of Turkey to pay for their pensions, working with a constantly developing Turkey in 10 years time will be much more beneficial to the EU than south Cyprus who is still a thorn in the side of the EU.


The EU can import cheap labour all it's wants from Turkey if needed. How does that help Turkey to get into the EU. It really doesn't.? The EU will be saying, "why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for very cheap". It definitely be more cost effective for the EU not to become a "welfare state" for Turkey's poor.! Having said all that, I hope Turkey does get in once she has meet all her obligations to her own people and country as well as others. Don't forget, that the last report that came out couple of months ago made the claim, that Turkey needed the EU 7 times more than the EU needed Turkey. You do the math.!


You already know my opinion on Turkeys aspirations to enter the EU so I wont repeat them again. You can think what you want but without a cow there is no steak just imported milk wont be enough to go around.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:When the time is right do you think the EU will choose little old 800.000 GC south Cyprus market or 80.000.000 market of Turkey? No competition economics will force everyone hand and the GC will not be happy bunnies, lets hope they continue with their current mindset.


I'm sorry to disagree with you VP, but on average, Turkey's 80 Million is no benefit to the EU at all, if the people of Turkey can't afford to purchase products made in Europe. Most can barely afford what is produced in Turkey.!


An aging EU population needs the youth of Turkey to pay for their pensions, working with a constantly developing Turkey in 10 years time will be much more beneficial to the EU than south Cyprus who is still a thorn in the side of the EU.


The EU can import cheap labour all it's wants from Turkey if needed. How does that help Turkey to get into the EU. It really doesn't.? The EU will be saying, "why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for very cheap". It definitely be more cost effective for the EU not to become a "welfare state" for Turkey's poor.! Having said all that, I hope Turkey does get in once she has meet all her obligations to her own people and country as well as others. Don't forget, that the last report that came out couple of months ago made the claim, that Turkey needed the EU 7 times more than the EU needed Turkey. You do the math.!


You already know my opinion on Turkeys aspirations to enter the EU so I wont repeat them again. You can think what you want but without a cow there is no steak just imported milk wont be enough to go around.


Fortunately steaks come from the Bulls and not from the Cows.! :P
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:09 pm

Why do you nit pick if I say white you automatically say black, you feel you have to have the last say is this some sort of complex?

Which part of the cow does fillet steak come from?
most of the prime cuts come from the end of the prime rib, which is the lower part of the rib cage. Filet Mignon or Tenderloin Steak is a cut of meat that is considered the king of steaks because of its tender, melt in the mouth texture. It comes from the small end of the tenderloin (called the short loin) which is found on the back rib cage of the animal. Because this area of the animal is not weight-bearing, the connective tissue is not toughened by exercise resulting in extremely tender meat. Filet mignon slices found in the market are generally one to two inches thick and two to three inches in diameter, but true mignons are no more than one inch in diameter and are taken from the tail end.


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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:41 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Why do you nit pick if I say white you automatically say black, you feel you have to have the last say is this some sort of complex?

Which part of the cow does fillet steak come from?
most of the prime cuts come from the end of the prime rib, which is the lower part of the rib cage. Filet Mignon or Tenderloin Steak is a cut of meat that is considered the king of steaks because of its tender, melt in the mouth texture. It comes from the small end of the tenderloin (called the short loin) which is found on the back rib cage of the animal. Because this area of the animal is not weight-bearing, the connective tissue is not toughened by exercise resulting in extremely tender meat. Filet mignon slices found in the market are generally one to two inches thick and two to three inches in diameter, but true mignons are no more than one inch in diameter and are taken from the tail end.

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:shock: He is such a maniac he even partitioned a bull! :(
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Postby wallace » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:51 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Why do you nit pick if I say white you automatically say black, you feel you have to have the last say is this some sort of complex?

Which part of the cow does fillet steak come from?
most of the prime cuts come from the end of the prime rib, which is the lower part of the rib cage. Filet Mignon or Tenderloin Steak is a cut of meat that is considered the king of steaks because of its tender, melt in the mouth texture. It comes from the small end of the tenderloin (called the short loin) which is found on the back rib cage of the animal. Because this area of the animal is not weight-bearing, the connective tissue is not toughened by exercise resulting in extremely tender meat. Filet mignon slices found in the market are generally one to two inches thick and two to three inches in diameter, but true mignons are no more than one inch in diameter and are taken from the tail end.

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:shock: He is such a maniac he even partitioned a bull! :(


That's right....but the shown partitioned part is more realistic if they want their own state :lol: :lol:
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