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[Kifeas]

You see, for GCs and the RoC, such a notion like the one you described, i.e. "one divided between the two state entities," doesn't exist. For the GCs and the RoC there is only one State in Cyprus, whose legitimate territory extends to the entire of the island. Whatever happens in the north is null and void and/or the outcome of the actions of an illegal occupational regime.

Alexandros, this is a prime example of what Ive been saying and the type of mindset thats not going to get us anywhere, now do you understand me and what Ive been trying to say???

Is this a new phenomenon for you? Isn't it the official policy of the GC side for 31 years now? Can this official policy of the GC side and the RoC change before a solution? Isn't it exactly the same in your case, when you insist claiming that there is no Turkish occupation in the north, that there is a legal state and government, and that the investment in GC properties is a legitimate activity? Did you abandon this policy, in order to ask the GC side to abandon it own?

What bothered you so much? The "whatever"? Okay maybe it was an exaggeration. I should have said whatever happens that requires or pre-assumes the involvement of the “TRNC” and the occupational forces and also, whatever involves GC properties.

Of course we do not consider the births and marriages of TCs to be null and void, or the use of TC properties, etc.

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas kindly update yourself on what our currrent leaders are saying, they are not pursuing recognition of the TRNC, they are pro solution and willing to go back to the table for a united Cyprus, ball is firmly in GC court.

our universities are not null and void, they are alive and kicking and should be viewed as one of the positive developments in the north , not reduced to the level of what land were they erected on, which in this case is irrelevent and the obvious venomous mindset you subscribe to reveals your biased views. Im sure you would have them all taken to court and closed or even knocked down for being built of pre 1974 GC land thus making them null and void in your opinion of course.

[garbitsch]

Let's put the universities aside, what do you say about the high schools in North? I went to TMK, which was once a Greek school (the EOKA signs had even remained). Now since this was once a Greek school, does it still make it illegal? I mean are you going to claim that actually I am not a highschool graduate?

[Viewpoint]

garbitsch according to Kifeas minset its more important what type of land the school is on if its GC land im sorry but your high school diploma is null and void

[garbitsch]

Bollocks!!

[brother]

Garbitsch wrote

Let's put the universities aside, what do you say about the high schools in North? I went to TMK, which was once a Greek school (the EOKA signs had even remained). Now since this was once a Greek school, does it still make it illegal? I mean are you going to claim that actually I am not a highschool graduate?

I went to TMK as well in Nicosia, i am 1987 graduate, how about you garb.

[Kifeas]

garbitsch according to Kifeas minset its more important what type of land the school is on if its GC land im sorry but your high school diploma is null and void

Viewpoint, we are just exchanging political views and positions here. Just think how far worse things could have been, if instead of doing this here in this forum, we could instead be fighting each other with guns and cannons.

I realise that today you are asking for trouble and thus I will try to avoid falling into your trap. I realise how important it is for you to be able to demonstrate achievements that surpass those of the GCs, like the case of the EMU University, and thus I will stop being so venomous and instead try to make your day.

The case of the EMU is not such an important achievement. It is a university simply bigger than any other academic institution the GCs can show. Nothing special! Most countries have bigger universities that what the GCs currently have and certainly EMU is not the biggest university in the world. There are many other things for which you can indeed be very proud of, because they are truly the biggest world records and can be easily included in the Guinness book.

For example, you have the biggest flag in the world. GCs do not have such a big flag, nor any other country that I am aware of. You are a state that has the biggest worldwide concentration in numbers, of soldiers and Tanks per square kilometre. You are a State that has the highest worldwide percentage of land that doesn’t belong to it’s own citizens but to the citizens of a neighbouring “state.” You are a state that has the highest worldwide percentage of imported citizens and workers. Almost 50% of the population, if I am not mistaken. Can the GCs ever bit you in any one of the above? Never! Can any other country in the world bit you either? None! It is impossible!

You see! I am not so negative, provocative and venomous as you try to portray me, but I can also give some credit, should it deservers to be given.

[Kifeas]

Let's put the universities aside, what do you say about the high schools in North? I went to TMK, which was once a Greek school (the EOKA signs had even remained). Now since this was once a Greek school, does it still make it illegal? I mean are you going to claim that actually I am not a highschool graduate?

I think there is no problem with your high school diploma, because you attended a school that was once a Greek Cypriot school and more importantly, since the EOKA signs have remained on the walls, it means that the education you have received was a first class one.

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas

For example, you have the biggest flag in the world. GCs do not have such a big flag, nor any other country that I am aware of. You are a state that has the biggest worldwide concentration in numbers, of soldiers and Tanks per square kilometre. You are a State that has the highest worldwide percentage of land that doesn’t belong to it’s own citizens but to the citizens of a neighbouring “state.” You are a state that has the highest worldwide percentage of imported citizens and workers. Almost 50% of the population, if I am not mistaken. Can the GCs ever bit you in any one of the above? Never! Can any other country in the world bit you either? None! It is impossible!

You see! I am not so negative, provocative and venomous as you try to portray me, but I can also give some credit, should it deservers to be given.

Need I say more, your viewpoint is clear to for all to read.

[Alexandros Lordos]

This is one provision of the Annan Plan that the GCs will insist cannot be changed ...

Which is their right but taking into account all the millions that have been invested Im sure TC side will object and then it will be a bone of contention.

It will most definitely be a bone of contention, I just hope the negotiation process does not end up stalling on this issue.

My feeling, in the end, is that the TC side might be more willing to give in on this issue - in exchange for some other benefit perhaps - than the GC side. If the GC side gives in and accepts the legalisation of these recent investments, then the GC "No" campaigners will turn the issue into a crusade and destroy any support that the plan might have with GC public opinion.