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[miltiades]

Reverse the roles Miltiades, Would you afford the ENglish the same rights over Cyprus in the 50's? Why would the GC's not afford the British colony of Cyprus the right to exist under the Empire as it was fairly and justly acquired?

The British in the 50's could have posted your last post against EOKA. You were in Eoka weren't you?

DT , a rather silly analogy here with all due respect.
Cyprus was a British colony and NOT the home of 7 million Brits with no other place to go to.

Israel since 1948 has been a member of the UN and recognised worldwide as a state in its own right.

I was an active member of ANE and my older brother was full activist in EOKA , along with all other movement members we subscribed to the removal of the Brits from Cyprus and NOT TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ANOTHER STATE.

[saravakos]

I havent read all the replies in this thread...i read the topic opener and started laughing. Made me cringe how naive some people can be!

The Palestinians are 'living' in open air prisons (Gaza, West Bank) and people are brainwashed by the western media. Its a disgrace how they're being treated ON THEIR OWN LAND!! Their electric gets cut off when the jews feel like it, their homes get bulldozed when the jews want that land, they have to go through loads of checkpoints daily just to get to work.

Some people need to learn some history and realise that Israel was made out of thin air. Good old Britain sticking their beaks in yet again.

I urge you to watch Occupation 101 on google video to see what really is going on there. Also, over 90% of the freedom fighters (not terrorists) have had family members killed by the jews. Is there any wonder they're so pissed off?!

Some need to wake the fuck up and stop believing all the bullshit thats fed to them.

[purdey]

We all have our own experiences of that area. Mine is from a Jewish perspective with family and friends in Israel. We see checkpoints, soldiers on the streets and the carnage following the suicide bombers.
If it was as simple as giving back land or sharing land it would have been done years ago, but dealing with a people that want to see the annialiation of the Jew is never easy.
Hamas have brought this upon there own people by instigating a defensive response from Israel or is this point been lost on the majority on forum.

[miltiades]

So we all then support Hamas and the destruction of Israel !!!!
Incidentally what bullshit are you being fed mate , Al Qaeda type , Hamas or is it Hezbollah !!
Did you say freedom fighters , I presume you include the suicide bombers exploding on buses , restaurants and open public places , Oh boy what brave warriors !!

[miltiades]

We all have our own experiences of that area. Mine is from a Jewish perspective with family and friends in Israel. We see checkpoints, soldiers on the streets and the carnage following the suicide bombers.
If it was as simple as giving back land or sharing land it would have been done years ago, but dealing with a people that want to see the annialiation of the Jew is never easy.
Hamas have brought this upon there own people by instigating a defensive response from Israel or is this point been lost on the majority on forum.

The majority on the forum , supporters of anyone and anything that is anti USA , anti West , are naturally looking after and caring for the oppressed , Palestinians are an oppressed people , self inflicted oppression deriving from their own commitment to violence and bloodshed . Does anyone really think that Israel will simply stand idle and watch the destruction of the Israeli state .
I don't think so . Make peace with Israel and Israel will respond , accept their right to exist and peace will come to this wretched region.

[DT.]

Reverse the roles Miltiades, Would you afford the ENglish the same rights over Cyprus in the 50's? Why would the GC's not afford the British colony of Cyprus the right to exist under the Empire as it was fairly and justly acquired?

The British in the 50's could have posted your last post against EOKA. You were in Eoka weren't you?

DT , a rather silly analogy here with all due respect.
Cyprus was a British colony and NOT the home of 7 million Brits with no other place to go to.

Israel since 1948 has been a member of the UN and recognised worldwide as a state in its own right.

I was an active member of ANE and my older brother was full activist in EOKA , along with all other movement members we subscribed to the removal of the Brits from Cyprus and NOT TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ANOTHER STATE.

Hamas came to power the last few years in Palestine Milt. You tell me the difference between those kids throwing rocks at the Israelis and the GC schoolchildren throwing rocks at the English in the 50's.

[purdey]

As far as I am aware those Cypriot kids did not grow up and strap explosives to their bodies and then board a Israeli bus.

[miltiades]

Reverse the roles Miltiades, Would you afford the ENglish the same rights over Cyprus in the 50's? Why would the GC's not afford the British colony of Cyprus the right to exist under the Empire as it was fairly and justly acquired?

The British in the 50's could have posted your last post against EOKA. You were in Eoka weren't you?

DT , a rather silly analogy here with all due respect.
Cyprus was a British colony and NOT the home of 7 million Brits with no other place to go to.

Israel since 1948 has been a member of the UN and recognised worldwide as a state in its own right.

I was an active member of ANE and my older brother was full activist in EOKA , along with all other movement members we subscribed to the removal of the Brits from Cyprus and NOT TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ANOTHER STATE.

Hamas came to power the last few years in Palestine Milt. You tell me the difference between those kids throwing rocks at the Israelis and the GC schoolchildren throwing rocks at the English in the 50's.

HUGE difference , we , in Cyprus were fighting in order to gain independence from Britain to whom Cyprus was a Colony. The kids in Gaza throwing stones , becoming suicide bombers etc, have been thoroughly indoctrinated to believe that the only solution that is acceptable is the annihilation of the state of Israel. The hate the Jews to such an extend that they will gladly detonate themselves in a nursery just as long as it was full of Israeli babies.
Let me tell you , us kids back in the 50s in Cyprus , were not mastered in hating the English , only in aspiring for Union with Greece .

There is not one iota of common ground that we shared with the Palestinians.
Let me also state the following. If ever a G/C leader , religious of political , was to proclaim that our children should be sent in the occupied areas of Cyprus as suicide bombers and indiscriminately set off their bombs in public places , restaurants and cafes on buses etc , I SHALL PERSONALLY SEEK TO ASSASSINATE SUCH PIECES OF SHIT AS THESE LEADERS.

[DT.]

Reverse the roles Miltiades, Would you afford the ENglish the same rights over Cyprus in the 50's? Why would the GC's not afford the British colony of Cyprus the right to exist under the Empire as it was fairly and justly acquired?

The British in the 50's could have posted your last post against EOKA. You were in Eoka weren't you?

DT , a rather silly analogy here with all due respect.
Cyprus was a British colony and NOT the home of 7 million Brits with no other place to go to.

Israel since 1948 has been a member of the UN and recognised worldwide as a state in its own right.

I was an active member of ANE and my older brother was full activist in EOKA , along with all other movement members we subscribed to the removal of the Brits from Cyprus and NOT TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ANOTHER STATE.

Hamas came to power the last few years in Palestine Milt. You tell me the difference between those kids throwing rocks at the Israelis and the GC schoolchildren throwing rocks at the English in the 50's.

HUGE difference , we , in Cyprus were fighting in order to gain independence from Britain to whom Cyprus was a Colony. The kids in Gaza throwing stones , becoming suicide bombers etc, have been thoroughly indoctrinated to believe that the only solution that is acceptable is the annihilation of the state of Israel. The hate the Jews to such an extend that they will gladly detonate themselves in a nursery just as long as it was full of Israeli babies.
Let me tell you , us kids back in the 50s in Cyprus , were not mastered in hating the English , only in aspiring for Union with Greece .

There is not one iota of common ground that we shared with the Palestinians.
Let me also state the following. If ever a G/C leader , religious of political , was to proclaim that our children should be sent in the occupied areas of Cyprus as suicide bombers and indiscriminately set off their bombs in public places , restaurants and cafes on buses etc , I SHALL PERSONALLY SEEK TO ASSASSINATE SUCH PIECES OF SHIT AS THESE LEADERS.

I saw 2 funerals of kids yesturday similar to the ages of my kids. I wonder what would happen if they were Israeli.

The fact that you've equated all Palestinian children who are opposing the invading forces (have you forgotten they are invading forces Milt) with suicide bombers leaves me indifferent to your argument.

The facts are there, Most of these kids and their families couldn't give a flying one if Israel existed or not, (most would want Israel to exist since a lot of their income stems from there. When they protest against a soldier who has the RIGHT to search anyone's house and arrest anyone they like, then they are not demonstrating against Israel, but for their own homeland.

Where's your humanity? Why do you tarnish these children's memories by labelling them all suicide bombers or future suicide bombers? Is an Israeli kid worth more? How much more?

[Cem]

We all have our own experiences of that area. Mine is from a Jewish perspective with family and friends in Israel. We see checkpoints, soldiers on the streets and the carnage following the suicide bombers.
If it was as simple as giving back land or sharing land it would have been done years ago, but dealing with a people that want to see the annialiation of the Jew is never easy.
Hamas have brought this upon there own people by instigating a defensive response from Israel or is this point been lost on the majority on forum.

The majority on the forum , supporters of anyone and anything that is anti USA , anti West , are naturally looking after and caring for the oppressed , Palestinians are an oppressed people , self inflicted oppression deriving from their own commitment to violence and bloodshed . Does anyone really think that Israel will simply stand idle and watch the destruction of the Israeli state .
I don't think so . Make peace with Israel and Israel will respond , accept their right to exist and peace will come to this wretched region.

Right. Unfortunately there are lots of Tasos Bin Ladens and Nikos Al-Zawahiris here who are anti-israeli, because they naively believe that they are sharing the same fate with palestinians by equating these latter to themselves and equating israelis to turks.