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[Oracle]

Please see my above post ....

No reference! Therefore no evidence!

[Truth]

What you need to do, is find this alleged legislature, because to date this is opinion/conjecture/propaganda. Call it what you will ... but it is not evidence. What is more, there was no facilitation of any such legislature.

Your whole premise is based on what someone has said, initially passed on by you, via Michael Stephens. As we correctly pointed out to you.

So until you show us proof of such legislation, having been passed or even in practice, then these opinions remain baseless and unfounded.

If you look carefully at the articles, when evidence is presented, there is usually a reference to where the evidence exists.

This quote/claim has no REFERENCE!

Fantastic!!!

Oracle understands that this is the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee report on Cyprus 2 July 1987, and has got nothing to do with Michael Stephens.

Can you tell that to Paphitis in Greek please?
He does not seem to have got that yet!

What you need to do, is find this alleged legislature
...
This quote/claim has no REFERENCE!

Are you asking me?!?!?
You should ask this question to House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee.
Not me!

PS. If you find it difficult to pay me £6.99, you can pay it to your favourite TC charity.

[Paphitis]

This is getting ridiculous....

GR Wrote:

Stephen Michael or as he is sometimes known Michael Stephen, works for the infamous "BOW GROUP" hired by Turkey and/or the “TRNC” to help them out with their poor image and propaganda...

http://www.bowgroup.org/

Who are we?
The British Cyprus Memorial Trust includes General Sir John Waters, who saw active service in Cyprus with the Gloucestershire Regiment, Air Chief Marshal Sir Michael Graydon, president of the Battle of Britain Memorial Trust, former Chief of the Air Staff and who served in Cyprus in the early 1960s, and Lieut. General Sir Henry Beverley, who was in Cyprus on active service with the Royal Marines.

The three linked associations which the Trust represents are:

The British Cyprus Veterans Association, membership of which is open to all those who have served with the British Armed Forces in Cyprus, and the president of which is Lord Glentoran who was there during the 1955-59 Emergency with the Grenadier Guards;

The Cyprus Memorial Family Association, for relatives of those remembered on the memorial, and the president of which is the Earl of Ilchester, whose cousin and then heir to his title, was killed in Famagusta in 1958 while serving with the Royal Horse Guards; and

Friends of the Cyprus Memorial, which includes the Royal British Legion, and the president of which is The Lord Maginnis of Drumglass, a former officer with the Ulster Defence Regiment (now the Royal Irish Regiment)

The chairman of the management committee is former MP Michael Stephen, a barrister specialising in international affairs who saw service with The Life Guards.

http://www.britishcyprusmemorial.org/in ... t/whoarewe

Sorry, but Michael Stephen is clearly a Friend of Turkey and so his reports are not classified as credible.

[doesntmatter]

This is getting ridiculous....

GR Wrote:

Stephen Michael or as he is sometimes known Michael Stephen, works for the infamous "BOW GROUP" hired by Turkey and/or the “TRNC” to help them out with their poor image and propaganda...

http://www.bowgroup.org/

Who are we?
The British Cyprus Memorial Trust includes General Sir John Waters, who saw active service in Cyprus with the Gloucestershire Regiment, Air Chief Marshal Sir Michael Graydon, president of the Battle of Britain Memorial Trust, former Chief of the Air Staff and who served in Cyprus in the early 1960s, and Lieut. General Sir Henry Beverley, who was in Cyprus on active service with the Royal Marines.

The three linked associations which the Trust represents are:

The British Cyprus Veterans Association, membership of which is open to all those who have served with the British Armed Forces in Cyprus, and the president of which is Lord Glentoran who was there during the 1955-59 Emergency with the Grenadier Guards;

The Cyprus Memorial Family Association, for relatives of those remembered on the memorial, and the president of which is the Earl of Ilchester, whose cousin and then heir to his title, was killed in Famagusta in 1958 while serving with the Royal Horse Guards; and

Friends of the Cyprus Memorial, which includes the Royal British Legion, and the president of which is The Lord Maginnis of Drumglass, a former officer with the Ulster Defence Regiment (now the Royal Irish Regiment)

The chairman of the management committee is former MP Michael Stephen, a barrister specialising in international affairs who saw service with The Life Guards.

http://www.britishcyprusmemorial.org/in ... t/whoarewe

Sorry, but Michael Stephen is clearly a Friend of Turkey and so his reports are not classified as credible.

re papitis;

Αυτό είναι η έκθεση Επιτροπής του Foreign Affairs Βουλών των Κοινοτήτων σχετικά με τη Κύπρο 2 Ιουλίου 1987. Δεν υπάρχει κανένας Michael Stephens σε το. Michael Stephens ανέφερε το.


αποκτημένος του?:roll:

[Truth]

This is getting ridiculous....

Quite!

We are discussing about the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee report on Cyprus 2 July 1987, not about Michael Stephens!



You can download the entire document.
http://boxstr.com/files/4581351_adyoc/HCForeignAff1987Cyprus.zip 5MB

See the quotation in red box.
That's what we are discussing.

[Truth]

This is getting ridiculous....

GR Wrote:

Stephen Michael or as he is sometimes known Michael Stephen, works for the infamous "BOW GROUP" hired by Turkey and/or the “TRNC” to help them out with their poor image and propaganda...

http://www.bowgroup.org/

Who are we?
The British Cyprus Memorial Trust includes General Sir John Waters, who saw active service in Cyprus with the Gloucestershire Regiment, Air Chief Marshal Sir Michael Graydon, president of the Battle of Britain Memorial Trust, former Chief of the Air Staff and who served in Cyprus in the early 1960s, and Lieut. General Sir Henry Beverley, who was in Cyprus on active service with the Royal Marines.

The three linked associations which the Trust represents are:

The British Cyprus Veterans Association, membership of which is open to all those who have served with the British Armed Forces in Cyprus, and the president of which is Lord Glentoran who was there during the 1955-59 Emergency with the Grenadier Guards;

The Cyprus Memorial Family Association, for relatives of those remembered on the memorial, and the president of which is the Earl of Ilchester, whose cousin and then heir to his title, was killed in Famagusta in 1958 while serving with the Royal Horse Guards; and

Friends of the Cyprus Memorial, which includes the Royal British Legion, and the president of which is The Lord Maginnis of Drumglass, a former officer with the Ulster Defence Regiment (now the Royal Irish Regiment)

The chairman of the management committee is former MP Michael Stephen, a barrister specialising in international affairs who saw service with The Life Guards.

http://www.britishcyprusmemorial.org/in ... t/whoarewe

Sorry, but Michael Stephen is clearly a Friend of Turkey and so his reports are not classified as credible.

re papitis;

Αυτό είναι η έκθεση Επιτροπής του Foreign Affairs Βουλών των Κοινοτήτων σχετικά με τη Κύπρο 2 Ιουλίου 1987. Δεν υπάρχει κανένας Michael Stephens σε το. Michael Stephens ανέφερε το.


αποκτημένος του?:roll:

Thanks doesntmatter!
I hope he will understand now.

[CBBB]

Is this an official British Government website:

http://boxstr.com/files/4581351_adyoc/H ... Cyprus.zip

????

[Paphitis]

Is this an official British Government website:

http://boxstr.com/files/4581351_adyoc/H ... Cyprus.zip

????

You would think they would use the official British Government Website.

As Oracle said, they are just going to have to prove this alleged legislation, from an official source such as the Republic of Cyprus Parliamentary archives.

[Truth]

Is this an official British Government website:

http://boxstr.com/files/4581351_adyoc/H ... Cyprus.zip

????

No.
Because this is an older document, it is not available on the UK House of Commons Library website yet.
You can send an email to [email protected] and they will send you a pdf copy. They charge £6.99 for this service.
So that you will not have to pay another £6.99, I uploaded it to a free download host.
The document is not subject to copyright restrictions.
The Library confirmed to me: "As this is a published document there are no copyright restrictions in place."

[Oracle]

What you need to do, is find this alleged legislature, because to date this is opinion/conjecture/propaganda. Call it what you will ... but it is not evidence. What is more, there was no facilitation of any such legislature.

Your whole premise is based on what someone has said, initially passed on by you, via Michael Stephens. As we correctly pointed out to you.

So until you show us proof of such legislation, having been passed or even in practice, then these opinions remain baseless and unfounded.

If you look carefully at the articles, when evidence is presented, there is usually a reference to where the evidence exists.

This quote/claim has no REFERENCE!

Fantastic!!!

Oracle understands that this is the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee report on Cyprus 2 July 1987, and has got nothing to do with Michael Stephens.

Can you tell that to Paphitis in Greek please?
He does not seem to have got that yet!

What you need to do, is find this alleged legislature
...
This quote/claim has no REFERENCE!

Are you asking me?!?!?
You should ask this question to House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee.
Not me!

PS. If you find it difficult to pay me £6.99, you can pay it to your favourite TC charity.

That's not what I said so you really need to stop lying about things.

I don't care what and from where, your little piece of paper derives.

But if it makes a sweeping statement, out of the blue, without discussing it further, since it would appear to be significant .... then uncharacteristically if it was a GENUINE article, which frankly is meaningless if erroneous, then where is the reference to any evidence?

Even so, Parliament does discuss wacky ideas, which go in print and then are refuted or do not stand up. Such as this quote ... it does not stand as evidence to what you and Stephens claim ... The proof of the pudding is in the EVIDENCE.

How do we know there isn't an erratum or disclaimer elsewhere? Or that it was discussed further down the line, since someone has brought it up, but lacked evidence, and then it was thrown out. Such as we have been doing all along!

As an isolated quote ... which is all this is; it is worthless without reference to evidence.

So it remains as some-one's opinion, which Stephens at least wishes to pass on as evidence, but for which there is NONE.

Neither you nor Stephens nor this "quote" offer any evidence to such a claim, nor even where the evidence is to be found by citing a REFERENCE.

So we are back at the beginning, where you and Stephens have produced unsubstantiated claims.