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[Oracle]

Well Turkey will get the boot from the EU. Withdrawal from Cyprus will follow.

Another year and no positive progress for the "trnc".

What will they do up north? ... Start heading south with their tails between their legs methinks.

[bill cobbett]

There may well be some chickens coming home to roost in the tnct in 2009. (Oh no! I said chickens!)

[paliometoxo]

exactly.. epitelous turkey will be forced to leave cyprus and they wont be able to do a thing about it or support the trnc.

[Byron]

Well Turkey will get the boot from the EU. Withdrawal from Cyprus will follow.

Another year and no positive progress for the "trnc".

What will they do up north? ... Start heading south with their tails between their legs methinks.

Italian TV program mediteraneo was very critical about Greek side not giving proper asylum rights to North Africans coming through the turkish side without papers. Those africans interviewed said the greek side was very racists and no job opportunities available.

[CBBB]

Well Turkey will get the boot from the EU. Withdrawal from Cyprus will follow.

Another year and no positive progress for the "trnc".

What will they do up north? ... Start heading south with their tails between their legs methinks.

Italian TV program mediteraneo was very critical about Greek side not giving proper asylum rights to North Africans coming through the turkish side without papers. Those africans interviewed said the greek side was very racists and no job opportunities available.

And your point is what in relation to "2009 a Bad Year for the "trnc" ..."?

[observer]

Well Turkey will get the boot from the EU. Withdrawal from Cyprus will follow.

Another year and no positive progress for the "trnc".

What will they do up north? ... Start heading south with their tails between their legs methinks.

Some mistake here surely.
Turkey gets the boot from the EU. Turkish troops remain in Cyprus must be what you mean.

[Oracle]

Well Turkey will get the boot from the EU. Withdrawal from Cyprus will follow.

Another year and no positive progress for the "trnc".

What will they do up north? ... Start heading south with their tails between their legs methinks.

Some mistake here surely.
Turkey gets the boot from the EU. Turkish troops remain in Cyprus must be what you mean.

I think you under-estimate the powerful effect Turkey's attempts at EU ascension are having on maintaining and forging negotiations.

Once Turkey's tentative attempts at Europisation are made null and void, and it reverts to its role as just another Middle East Islamic State with internal problems of, now, the most unsettling in the whole region .... what possible motive would the EU continue to have in allowing part of its own territory, of increased geopolitical significance, wealthy and with the further promise of Oil etc. to be occupied by such an agreed, totally foreign and unwelcome agent?

It is then, and only then, once Turkey has zero chance of EU-acceptability, that we will see, not only the TRUE face of Turkey, but the real POWER of the EU.

As Paul12 said, 2008 - a Good Year for the "trnc" .... so what have you achieved?

[Byron]

Well Turkey will get the boot from the EU. Withdrawal from Cyprus will follow.

Another year and no positive progress for the "trnc".

What will they do up north? ... Start heading south with their tails between their legs methinks.

Italian TV program mediteraneo was very critical about Greek side not giving proper asylum rights to North Africans coming through the turkish side without papers. Those africans interviewed said the greek side was very racists and no job opportunities available.

And your point is what in relation to "2009 a Bad Year for the "trnc" ..."?

They are responsible for directly sending settlers to the GREEK side to create tension with the EU regarding asylum seekers and to destabilise the population. Italian TV program will monitor the situation.

[observer]

Well Turkey will get the boot from the EU. Withdrawal from Cyprus will follow.

Another year and no positive progress for the "trnc".

What will they do up north? ... Start heading south with their tails between their legs methinks.

Some mistake here surely.
Turkey gets the boot from the EU. Turkish troops remain in Cyprus must be what you mean.

I think you under-estimate the powerful effect Turkey's attempts at EU ascension are having on maintaining and forging negotiations.

Once Turkey's tentative attempts at Europisation are made null and void, and it reverts to its role as just another Middle East Islamic State with internal problems of, now, the most unsettling in the whole region .... what possible motive would the EU continue to have in allowing part of its own territory, of increased geopolitical significance, wealthy and with the further promise of Oil etc. to be occupied by such an agreed, totally foreign and unwelcome agent?

It is then, and only then, once Turkey has zero chance of EU-acceptability, that we will see, not only the TRUE face of Turkey, but the real POWER of the EU.

As Paul12 said, 2008 - a Good Year for the "trnc" .... so what have you achieved?

I think that you overestimate the eagerness of Turkey to join the EU and hugely overestimate the importance of Cypriot reunification to anybody except Cypriots.

[Oracle]

Well Turkey will get the boot from the EU. Withdrawal from Cyprus will follow.

Another year and no positive progress for the "trnc".

What will they do up north? ... Start heading south with their tails between their legs methinks.

Some mistake here surely.
Turkey gets the boot from the EU. Turkish troops remain in Cyprus must be what you mean.

I think you under-estimate the powerful effect Turkey's attempts at EU ascension are having on maintaining and forging negotiations.

Once Turkey's tentative attempts at Europisation are made null and void, and it reverts to its role as just another Middle East Islamic State with internal problems of, now, the most unsettling in the whole region .... what possible motive would the EU continue to have in allowing part of its own territory, of increased geopolitical significance, wealthy and with the further promise of Oil etc. to be occupied by such an agreed, totally foreign and unwelcome agent?

It is then, and only then, once Turkey has zero chance of EU-acceptability, that we will see, not only the TRUE face of Turkey, but the real POWER of the EU.

As Paul12 said, 2008 - a Good Year for the "trnc" .... so what have you achieved?

I think that you overestimate the eagerness of Turkey to join the EU and hugely overestimate the importance of Cypriot reunification to anybody except Cypriots.

I think you are deliberately missing the point.

It doesn't matter how much Turkey genuinely wants to join the EU or not .... it probably does not know itself ... but it knows enough that it has figured that it is important to continue a flow and an exchange, with a view to joining. This way it keeps itself tied enough to the EU, that the EU will not turn round and throw it out of Cyprus and upset the apple-cart for negotiations.

So as I say ... when it finally is severed from all EU ties ... then we will get somewhere! And that is just a moment away .....