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[Viewpoint]

VP,

I have given you more than you have asked for, VP, but it's not enough for you, so let me tackle your question from another angle, shall I.

Why don't you give me a list of all the things that the TC's are demanding that does not violate any Cypriots Democratic and Human Rights along with International Laws, and I will support those demands, and if the GC's does not support those TC's demands that does not violate those principles as described above, then I will fault them for not doing so.

Now, give me your list please.!

Kikapu you are an expert at avoiding or clouding any questions you are unable to answer as is the case here, there are no issues where you support the TC stance opposing any GC viewpoint. You are 100% behind whatever the GC put forward irrelevant of whether its places TCs the people you claim are your community at the mercy of a hostile and revenge seeking GC community.

I'm still waiting for your list VP. I'm eagerly waiting to support all TC's demands that you have asked me to do so, so let me see all those demands that does not violate any Cypriots Democratic and Human Rights as well as International Laws which will need to conform to the EU rules, because that's where we want to live, so lets see the list of your demands, before you can pass judgement on me for refusing in wanting anything beneficial for my community, the TC's.!

Still no response, Viewpoint.!

I think you should change your name to Captain America, Kikapu. A caped figure standing on a mountain of injustice. All the files in your inbox but the outbox remains empty.

Zan, be a good lad and take a back seat on this one and let VP for once answer this question I have asked from him. This has come up many times in the past, by VP's doing each time, and each time he hides from his own topic, so let VP handle this one will you. There's a good chap.!

When you get into your Human rights speech and offer it as the line by which everything must abide but forget about those imposed on the TC people, then I just can't help myself Kikapu........Your question is just like that old quote mistakenly attributed to Henry Ford......"You can have any colour you like, as long as it's black"

There has been already too much Human Rights violations imposed on all Cypriots in the last 50 years Zan. Haven't you had enough yet.? Well, I have and do not want to have any more from here on. Is that too much to ask or do you just want to play "tennis" with Human Rights violations as to who can score more by one side or the other. Now that you got my point, let VP answer the question put to him. Once he fails to answer (again), then I'll ask you to do it at later time, deal.!

What is it exactly I have not been answering, was it the Kikapu tactic of avoiding a question I asked with a question, which warrants silence...answer my original question and you will get what you ask for, when you start displaying you care not only for the GC stance but also for once argue against GCs and in favor of the TCs.

[bill cobbett]

VP,

I have given you more than you have asked for, VP, but it's not enough for you, so let me tackle your question from another angle, shall I.

Why don't you give me a list of all the things that the TC's are demanding that does not violate any Cypriots Democratic and Human Rights along with International Laws, and I will support those demands, and if the GC's does not support those TC's demands that does not violate those principles as described above, then I will fault them for not doing so.

Now, give me your list please.!

Is the above what you are looking for VPs ?

[Viewpoint]

VP,

I have given you more than you have asked for, VP, but it's not enough for you, so let me tackle your question from another angle, shall I.

Why don't you give me a list of all the things that the TC's are demanding that does not violate any Cypriots Democratic and Human Rights along with International Laws, and I will support those demands, and if the GC's does not support those TC's demands that does not violate those principles as described above, then I will fault them for not doing so.

Now, give me your list please.!

Is the above what you are looking for VPs ?

For once I would like a straight answe bill, he slips slides and turns and avoids answering all together reminds me of a GC politician, maybe he is one in disguise.

[Kikapu]

VP,

I have given you more than you have asked for, VP, but it's not enough for you, so let me tackle your question from another angle, shall I.

Why don't you give me a list of all the things that the TC's are demanding that does not violate any Cypriots Democratic and Human Rights along with International Laws, and I will support those demands, and if the GC's does not support those TC's demands that does not violate those principles as described above, then I will fault them for not doing so.

Now, give me your list please.!

Is the above what you are looking for VPs ?

For once I would like a straight answe bill, he slips slides and turns and avoids answering all together reminds me of a GC politician, maybe he is one in disguise.

Bill, you have just seen VP telling you in what it is that he does by not answering the question. My post to him was very clear, and yet, he like to perform gymnastics with it.!

Too bad VP was not in the Olympics, because he would have won Gold medals for UK the way he performs.!

[doesntmatter]

You probably dont know we do not celebrate Christmas.

You’re so incompatible with Cyprus I don’t know what the hell you’re doing here VP because I saw hundreds of TCs buying xmas stuff…

Do yourself and your family a favor and return to Turkey…

Thats for the new year not christmas, maybe you are the ones not compatible to Cyprus, do you celebrate Kurban or Şeker Bayram?

Kids all over the world like xmas for the obvious reasons... you don't have to be a Christian to have a xmas tree, exchange presents, etc. They're all pagan traditions anyways...

No, I don't know what those bayrams are.

VP had just as much Christmas celebrations in his first 30 years of his life living in the UK as anyone else, and old "habits" being difficult to get rid off, I'm sure he still celebrates it in some fashion with his family in the "trnc". In a Unified Cyprus, the Federal Government will shut down for Christmas and Easter which will effect all TC's working in the Federal Government, whom I'm sure will not mind staying at home and getting paid for it at the same time whether they will themselves celebrate these holidays or not.

My twin sister who has lived in Turkey for the last 30+ years and reads the Kuran everyday, was looking forward to coming to London this Christmas Season to celebrate it with the rest of the family, but due to health reasons, she was not able to. She had only lived in the UK for 6 years as a teenager, but still missed that Christmas spirit and wanted to be with the family. Almost all TC's in the UK celebrate Christmas in a non religious way, of course. I'm sure many TC's in the "trnc" who has lived abroad also celebrate Christmas in some fashion, even if it means going to the south to enjoy it.

I saw a brief article in the Yeni Düzen newspaper recently reporting that the Forestry Department would supply tall saplings rather than felled trees this year for people to use as "new year trees". Even if they call them "new year trees" rather than "Christmas trees", this is certainly not an Islamic or traditional Turkish custom. Doesntmatter would have a heart attack if he heard. Where does this fit into the Turkish-Islamic synthesis?

Santa dressed in red and with a white/grey hair and beard is a very old traditional Christian custom is it?

[Tim Drayton]

You probably dont know we do not celebrate Christmas.

You’re so incompatible with Cyprus I don’t know what the hell you’re doing here VP because I saw hundreds of TCs buying xmas stuff…

Do yourself and your family a favor and return to Turkey…

Thats for the new year not christmas, maybe you are the ones not compatible to Cyprus, do you celebrate Kurban or Şeker Bayram?

Kids all over the world like xmas for the obvious reasons... you don't have to be a Christian to have a xmas tree, exchange presents, etc. They're all pagan traditions anyways...

No, I don't know what those bayrams are.

VP had just as much Christmas celebrations in his first 30 years of his life living in the UK as anyone else, and old "habits" being difficult to get rid off, I'm sure he still celebrates it in some fashion with his family in the "trnc". In a Unified Cyprus, the Federal Government will shut down for Christmas and Easter which will effect all TC's working in the Federal Government, whom I'm sure will not mind staying at home and getting paid for it at the same time whether they will themselves celebrate these holidays or not.

My twin sister who has lived in Turkey for the last 30+ years and reads the Kuran everyday, was looking forward to coming to London this Christmas Season to celebrate it with the rest of the family, but due to health reasons, she was not able to. She had only lived in the UK for 6 years as a teenager, but still missed that Christmas spirit and wanted to be with the family. Almost all TC's in the UK celebrate Christmas in a non religious way, of course. I'm sure many TC's in the "trnc" who has lived abroad also celebrate Christmas in some fashion, even if it means going to the south to enjoy it.

I saw a brief article in the Yeni Düzen newspaper recently reporting that the Forestry Department would supply tall saplings rather than felled trees this year for people to use as "new year trees". Even if they call them "new year trees" rather than "Christmas trees", this is certainly not an Islamic or traditional Turkish custom. Doesntmatter would have a heart attack if he heard. Where does this fit into the Turkish-Islamic synthesis?

Santa dressed in red and with a white/grey hair and beard is a very old traditional Christian custom is it?

No, it isn't. You ask very strange questions. I do not defend some kind of putative "British-Christian synthesis". On the other hand, I hear the so-called "Turkish-Islamic synthesis" ringing out in your posts. That's why I thought the above news would not be to your liking.

[doesntmatter]

You probably dont know we do not celebrate Christmas.

You’re so incompatible with Cyprus I don’t know what the hell you’re doing here VP because I saw hundreds of TCs buying xmas stuff…

Do yourself and your family a favor and return to Turkey…

Thats for the new year not christmas, maybe you are the ones not compatible to Cyprus, do you celebrate Kurban or Şeker Bayram?

Kids all over the world like xmas for the obvious reasons... you don't have to be a Christian to have a xmas tree, exchange presents, etc. They're all pagan traditions anyways...

No, I don't know what those bayrams are.

VP had just as much Christmas celebrations in his first 30 years of his life living in the UK as anyone else, and old "habits" being difficult to get rid off, I'm sure he still celebrates it in some fashion with his family in the "trnc". In a Unified Cyprus, the Federal Government will shut down for Christmas and Easter which will effect all TC's working in the Federal Government, whom I'm sure will not mind staying at home and getting paid for it at the same time whether they will themselves celebrate these holidays or not.

My twin sister who has lived in Turkey for the last 30+ years and reads the Kuran everyday, was looking forward to coming to London this Christmas Season to celebrate it with the rest of the family, but due to health reasons, she was not able to. She had only lived in the UK for 6 years as a teenager, but still missed that Christmas spirit and wanted to be with the family. Almost all TC's in the UK celebrate Christmas in a non religious way, of course. I'm sure many TC's in the "trnc" who has lived abroad also celebrate Christmas in some fashion, even if it means going to the south to enjoy it.

I saw a brief article in the Yeni Düzen newspaper recently reporting that the Forestry Department would supply tall saplings rather than felled trees this year for people to use as "new year trees". Even if they call them "new year trees" rather than "Christmas trees", this is certainly not an Islamic or traditional Turkish custom. Doesntmatter would have a heart attack if he heard. Where does this fit into the Turkish-Islamic synthesis?

Santa dressed in red and with a white/grey hair and beard is a very old traditional Christian custom is it?

No, it isn't. You ask very strange questions. I do not defend some kind of putative "British-Christian synthesis". On the other hand, I hear the so-called "Turkish-Islamic synthesis" ringing out in your posts. That's why I thought the above news would not be to your liking.

You "hear" the "Turkish-Islamic synthesis" ringing out in my posts? Remind me Tim.

[Tim Drayton]

You "hear" the "Turkish-Islamic synthesis" ringing out in my posts? Remind me Tim.

I could refer, for example, to the comment you made in your post dated Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:31 pm on the following thread:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=40

in which you stated

"Second, they are not just stealing from you personally and not just from Turkish Cypriots either, they are stealing from Turks/Muslims all over the world. Doner Kebab, Shish Kebab, Kebab, Sheftali are all Turkish/Muslim words used by all Turks/Muslims not just the TCs."

I have hung out with members of the neo-fascist MHP in Turkey, so I am familiar with the cretinous ideology of a Turkish-Islamic synthesis, but the claim that the above-mentioned Turkish names of foods are Turkish/Moslem words takes the cake. As I have already pointed out, Arabs know "Doner Kebab" (shouldn't that be "döner kebab") as Shwarma.

[doesntmatter]

You "hear" the "Turkish-Islamic synthesis" ringing out in my posts? Remind me Tim.

I could refer, for example, to the comment you made in your post dated Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:31 pm on the following thread:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=40

in which you stated

"Second, they are not just stealing from you personally and not just from Turkish Cypriots either, they are stealing from Turks/Muslims all over the world. Doner Kebab, Shish Kebab, Kebab, Sheftali are all Turkish/Muslim words used by all Turks/Muslims not just the TCs."

I have hung out with members of the neo-fascist MHP in Turkey, so I am familiar with the cretinous ideology of a Turkish-Islamic synthesis, but the claim that the above-mentioned Turkish names of foods are Turkish/Moslem words takes the cake. As I have already pointed out, Arabs know "Doner Kebab" (shouldn't that be "döner kebab") as Shwarma.

Did I claim that "Shwarma" is a Turkish name?

The correct Arab name by the way is "SHAWARMA".

What exactly is "Shawarma" Tim, any ideas?

Is "Kebab" only a Turkish name and not used, maybe even originated from, by other Muslim countries?

What about "Shish" Tim?

"Hummuz"?

Anyway, are any of those words or food I mentioned Greek Tim?

Tim, you definitely do not know as much as you think you do or are trying to make us believe you do. You have only learned what you wanted to learn to use for your arguments and aginst those you argue with. The rest is still beyond your reach probably because you hate to see/hear anything relating to Islam.

[denizaksulu]

I wonder if the Arabic 'SHAWARMA' is a corruption of the Turkish word 'Cevirme/Chevirme=turning, dondurmek/DONER). I must consult my colleagues.

My dictionary states that Kebab/kebap=Arabic

and we now Humus/ Humous= Arabic for chick pea and mashed chick peas.

Shish is Turkish.