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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:59 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You cannot steal what belongs to you and Ercan belongs to us the TCs.

Tymbou was a 100% Greek Cypriot village and all its surrounding territory belonged to the local villagers. I happen to be the LEGAL OWNER of land that was just a kilometer away from what was once a small ex-British strip of tarmac right next to Tymbou.

Today, I understand this airport you’ve named “ercan” has been extended way beyond the small size of what the British were using in the 50’s, so it’s therefore safe for me to assume that part of this illegal airport officially belongs to me.

Therefore, as one of the LEGAL OWNERS of land used by “ercan” I DO NOT appreciate you making such dumb declarations. :evil:


GR,

As soon as you know which private company wants to take over the airport, be sure to let them know, that they are buying part of your land without your permission and that you will sue their butts in EU courts and attach a lien on anything that they may own in other countries.


Argentina? Israel? Russia?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:04 pm

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Medman wrote:Bill C & Oracle

Good Morning. The Helvaci family (Turkish Cypriots) from Larnaca own the land which forms part of Larnaca airport and are seeking compensation through the courts. No deal can be struck for compensation until a peace deal is done apparently. So around in circles we go, yet again!


It is very legal for any legitimate government to use "Eminent Domain / Expropriation" rules in order to build public projects and pay the owner the market value at the time of the purchase. The only fear I have for the TC's who owned part of the land used to build Larnaca airport, is that the legal owner will be paid eventually to what his land was worth when the airport was built and his money kept in some kind of an escrow since then. Whether the same rules will apply in the north due to the non recognition of the "trnc and it's government", whether or not the "Eminent Domain / Expropriation" rules apply is another matter. My guess is, they will not apply, therefore what ever GC land was used when building Ercan airport, and peace is reached, the compensation will be made at the market rate of the land at that time. If so, I can see a lot of TC's losing out financially if their land was built on in the south with public projects since 1963, but mostly after 1974.


Hardly democratic or a level playing field, you have yet again been exposed for what you really are anti TCs pro GCs, you could have at least evaluated it on an equal basis considering airports are used by everyone and not just for personal use.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:08 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You cannot steal what belongs to you and Ercan belongs to us the TCs.

Tymbou was a 100% Greek Cypriot village and all its surrounding territory belonged to the local villagers. I happen to be the LEGAL OWNER of land that was just a kilometer away from what was once a small ex-British strip of tarmac right next to Tymbou.

Today, I understand this airport you’ve named “ercan” has been extended way beyond the small size of what the British were using in the 50’s, so it’s therefore safe for me to assume that part of this illegal airport officially belongs to me.

Therefore, as one of the LEGAL OWNERS of land used by “ercan” I DO NOT appreciate you making such dumb declarations. :evil:



I bet Tymbou/Ercan is still worth a 'pot of gold'.
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:10 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You cannot steal what belongs to you and Ercan belongs to us the TCs.

Tymbou was a 100% Greek Cypriot village and all its surrounding territory belonged to the local villagers. I happen to be the LEGAL OWNER of land that was just a kilometer away from what was once a small ex-British strip of tarmac right next to Tymbou.

Today, I understand this airport you’ve named “ercan” has been extended way beyond the small size of what the British were using in the 50’s, so it’s therefore safe for me to assume that part of this illegal airport officially belongs to me.

Therefore, as one of the LEGAL OWNERS of land used by “ercan” I DO NOT appreciate you making such dumb declarations. :evil:


GR,

As soon as you know which private company wants to take over the airport, be sure to let them know, that they are buying part of your land without your permission and that you will sue their butts in EU courts and attach a lien on anything that they may own in other countries.


Argentina? Israel? Russia?


You forgot to mention USA.!

It really does not matter. They can be sued where ever they come from, if in fact it will ever come to that. I have my doubts personally as I mentioned earlier. Any GC owned property has/will become "radioactive" to any investor with the new EU legal opinion on GC land in the north.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:12 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You cannot steal what belongs to you and Ercan belongs to us the TCs.

Tymbou was a 100% Greek Cypriot village and all its surrounding territory belonged to the local villagers. I happen to be the LEGAL OWNER of land that was just a kilometer away from what was once a small ex-British strip of tarmac right next to Tymbou.

Today, I understand this airport you’ve named “ercan” has been extended way beyond the small size of what the British were using in the 50’s, so it’s therefore safe for me to assume that part of this illegal airport officially belongs to me.

Therefore, as one of the LEGAL OWNERS of land used by “ercan” I DO NOT appreciate you making such dumb declarations. :evil:


GR,

As soon as you know which private company wants to take over the airport, be sure to let them know, that they are buying part of your land without your permission and that you will sue their butts in EU courts and attach a lien on anything that they may own in other countries.


Argentina? Israel? Russia?


You forgot to mention USA.!

It really does not matter. They can be sued where ever they come from, if in fact it will ever come to that. I have my doubts personally as I mentioned earlier. Any GC owned property has/will become "radioactive" to any investor with the new EU legal opinion on GC land in the north.


Has this OPINION been ratified?
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:20 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Medman wrote:Bill C & Oracle

Good Morning. The Helvaci family (Turkish Cypriots) from Larnaca own the land which forms part of Larnaca airport and are seeking compensation through the courts. No deal can be struck for compensation until a peace deal is done apparently. So around in circles we go, yet again!


It is very legal for any legitimate government to use "Eminent Domain / Expropriation" rules in order to build public projects and pay the owner the market value at the time of the purchase. The only fear I have for the TC's who owned part of the land used to build Larnaca airport, is that the legal owner will be paid eventually to what his land was worth when the airport was built and his money kept in some kind of an escrow since then. Whether the same rules will apply in the north due to the non recognition of the "trnc and it's government", whether or not the "Eminent Domain / Expropriation" rules apply is another matter. My guess is, they will not apply, therefore what ever GC land was used when building Ercan airport, and peace is reached, the compensation will be made at the market rate of the land at that time. If so, I can see a lot of TC's losing out financially if their land was built on in the south with public projects since 1963, but mostly after 1974.


Hardly democratic or a level playing field, you have yet again been exposed for what you really are anti TCs pro GCs, you could have at least evaluated it on an equal basis considering airports are used by everyone and not just for personal use.


This is your problem VP, that anything that is not in TC favour, then it must be anti TC sentiment. I'm just giving you my opinion without "sugarcoating" it for you on what a legitimate governments can do with others property. The question is, what happens when illegitimate governments try to do the same thing.? That is the question. At the end of the day, this has to be also negotiated, that's all, but as it is right now, I believe I'm correct in what I stated. It has nothing to do with Democracy or fair playing field. It is a matter of law and it doesn't matter what I or you say. Just because you do not agree with it because it may go against your own interests, it does not mean it is unfair.
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:28 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You cannot steal what belongs to you and Ercan belongs to us the TCs.

Tymbou was a 100% Greek Cypriot village and all its surrounding territory belonged to the local villagers. I happen to be the LEGAL OWNER of land that was just a kilometer away from what was once a small ex-British strip of tarmac right next to Tymbou.

Today, I understand this airport you’ve named “ercan” has been extended way beyond the small size of what the British were using in the 50’s, so it’s therefore safe for me to assume that part of this illegal airport officially belongs to me.

Therefore, as one of the LEGAL OWNERS of land used by “ercan” I DO NOT appreciate you making such dumb declarations. :evil:


GR,

As soon as you know which private company wants to take over the airport, be sure to let them know, that they are buying part of your land without your permission and that you will sue their butts in EU courts and attach a lien on anything that they may own in other countries.


Argentina? Israel? Russia?


You forgot to mention USA.!

It really does not matter. They can be sued where ever they come from, if in fact it will ever come to that. I have my doubts personally as I mentioned earlier. Any GC owned property has/will become "radioactive" to any investor with the new EU legal opinion on GC land in the north.


Has this OPINION been ratified?


No, but have you ever seen a Bear take a crap in the woods, VP.?

It happens, right.!

It's coming, and as long as this legal opinion is in the pipes of being ratified, any investor has to be crazy to invest in stolen GC properties that you don't seem to have any problem in selling them.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:07 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Medman wrote:Bill C & Oracle

Good Morning. The Helvaci family (Turkish Cypriots) from Larnaca own the land which forms part of Larnaca airport and are seeking compensation through the courts. No deal can be struck for compensation until a peace deal is done apparently. So around in circles we go, yet again!


It is very legal for any legitimate government to use "Eminent Domain / Expropriation" rules in order to build public projects and pay the owner the market value at the time of the purchase. The only fear I have for the TC's who owned part of the land used to build Larnaca airport, is that the legal owner will be paid eventually to what his land was worth when the airport was built and his money kept in some kind of an escrow since then. Whether the same rules will apply in the north due to the non recognition of the "trnc and it's government", whether or not the "Eminent Domain / Expropriation" rules apply is another matter. My guess is, they will not apply, therefore what ever GC land was used when building Ercan airport, and peace is reached, the compensation will be made at the market rate of the land at that time. If so, I can see a lot of TC's losing out financially if their land was built on in the south with public projects since 1963, but mostly after 1974.


Hardly democratic or a level playing field, you have yet again been exposed for what you really are anti TCs pro GCs, you could have at least evaluated it on an equal basis considering airports are used by everyone and not just for personal use.


This is your problem VP, that anything that is not in TC favour, then it must be anti TC sentiment. I'm just giving you my opinion without "sugarcoating" it for you on what a legitimate governments can do with others property. The question is, what happens when illegitimate governments try to do the same thing.? That is the question. At the end of the day, this has to be also negotiated, that's all, but as it is right now, I believe I'm correct in what I stated. It has nothing to do with Democracy or fair playing field. It is a matter of law and it doesn't matter what I or you say. Just because you do not agree with it because it may go against your own interests, it does not mean it is unfair.


Provide 2 examples of pro TC and anti GC stance you have ever taken.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:08 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You cannot steal what belongs to you and Ercan belongs to us the TCs.

Tymbou was a 100% Greek Cypriot village and all its surrounding territory belonged to the local villagers. I happen to be the LEGAL OWNER of land that was just a kilometer away from what was once a small ex-British strip of tarmac right next to Tymbou.

Today, I understand this airport you’ve named “ercan” has been extended way beyond the small size of what the British were using in the 50’s, so it’s therefore safe for me to assume that part of this illegal airport officially belongs to me.

Therefore, as one of the LEGAL OWNERS of land used by “ercan” I DO NOT appreciate you making such dumb declarations. :evil:


GR,

As soon as you know which private company wants to take over the airport, be sure to let them know, that they are buying part of your land without your permission and that you will sue their butts in EU courts and attach a lien on anything that they may own in other countries.


Argentina? Israel? Russia?


You forgot to mention USA.!

It really does not matter. They can be sued where ever they come from, if in fact it will ever come to that. I have my doubts personally as I mentioned earlier. Any GC owned property has/will become "radioactive" to any investor with the new EU legal opinion on GC land in the north.


Has this OPINION been ratified?


No, but have you ever seen a Bear take a crap in the woods, VP.?

It happens, right.!

It's coming, and as long as this legal opinion is in the pipes of being ratified, any investor has to be crazy to invest in stolen GC properties that you don't seem to have any problem in selling them.


Lets just hold on for the verdict and not count your chickens before they hatch.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:09 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You cannot steal what belongs to you and Ercan belongs to us the TCs.

Tymbou was a 100% Greek Cypriot village and all its surrounding territory belonged to the local villagers. I happen to be the LEGAL OWNER of land that was just a kilometer away from what was once a small ex-British strip of tarmac right next to Tymbou.

Today, I understand this airport you’ve named “ercan” has been extended way beyond the small size of what the British were using in the 50’s, so it’s therefore safe for me to assume that part of this illegal airport officially belongs to me.

Therefore, as one of the LEGAL OWNERS of land used by “ercan” I DO NOT appreciate you making such dumb declarations. :evil:


GR,

As soon as you know which private company wants to take over the airport, be sure to let them know, that they are buying part of your land without your permission and that you will sue their butts in EU courts and attach a lien on anything that they may own in other countries.


Argentina? Israel? Russia?


You forgot to mention USA.!

It really does not matter. They can be sued where ever they come from, if in fact it will ever come to that. I have my doubts personally as I mentioned earlier. Any GC owned property has/will become "radioactive" to any investor with the new EU legal opinion on GC land in the north.


Has this OPINION been ratified?


No, but have you ever seen a Bear take a crap in the woods, VP.?

It happens, right.!

It's coming, and as long as this legal opinion is in the pipes of being ratified, any investor has to be crazy to invest in stolen GC properties that you don't seem to have any problem in selling them.


Lets just hold on for the verdict and not count your chickens before they hatch. The amount of pleasure no exstacy you derive form anything remotely against the TCs is clear for everyone to see.
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