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FILED A CASE AGAINST THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS AT THE ECHR

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Kifeas » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:53 am

Viewpoint wrote:These cases will now increase.


Let them increase VP!

I personally have nothing to be afraid! Let the Cyprus issue become resolved through the courts! I have neither personally nor any of my family being the victimizers of anyone, be it a TC or a GC, but instead I was and still am a victim for having lost relatives and properties!

Let justice prevail!

So far the score is 10-0 in favor of the GCs! Let it become a 10-1 or a 20-10, or even 100-100, as long as justice is being served.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:20 pm

Gabira wrote:
Piratis wrote:Justice and democracy will prevail.


Well, that's a great start right at the end.

I managed to find only the 5 words quoted above in which I totally agree with in your personal version of events of Cyprus.

Justice will prevail, but your version of democracy, will not.


About what "my version" of democracy are you talking about? What I support is any version that meets the fundamental principles of democracy: Majority rule (one person - one vote) + minority rights.

Greeks made the first democracy and today many of the countries of the world follow those principles. Unfortunately you still have no idea what democracy means, or rather you do not accept it because you prefer decisions to be taken by the use of force, instead of allowing the people to decide in a democratic way (= one person one vote without racist discrimination and apartheid)
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Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:25 pm

Gabira wrote:Yes agreed, anything that condemns the slaughter of innocent TC men, women, children and even TC owned cats will expectedly "sound a bit iffy" to people like Oracle. I'm suprised that you have even given TMT that much credit.


What sounded "iffy" was the way these people decided it was the RoC at fault. But then Turks assume everyone else is guilty first and foremost, so that they can justify their slaughters without the need for reason. Like shooting to kill for touching a flag, or beating to death for being caught alone (old and young).

Court proceedings are "foreign" to your people as you spend most of the time dodging them whenever you have to face your crimes. Yet when you have a problem, you have decided on the verdict before any evidence has even been heard. That is what is "iffy" to my mind.

Why not wait till the outcome; you may hear a different story. But perhaps the intention is to milk-it now, for all it's worth.

So it is you and halil who do not respect the dead.
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Postby Gabira » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:47 pm

Nope, Papadops can not be respected in my eyes whether he is alive or dead. I hope he is still sizzling very slowly in hell.

You are obviously proud of his achievements of the pain he caused TC's during his openly proactive EOKA days.

Our only crime was to be TC amongst fascist GC's of the time.

N.b You forgot to throw in the "Armenian Genocide" and Kurdish issues in your first line. Naturally as TC's, we must accept liabilty for these claims too.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:08 pm

Oracle wrote:
Gabira wrote:Yes agreed, anything that condemns the slaughter of innocent TC men, women, children and even TC owned cats will expectedly "sound a bit iffy" to people like Oracle. I'm suprised that you have even given TMT that much credit.


What sounded "iffy" was the way these people decided it was the RoC at fault. But then Turks assume everyone else is guilty first and foremost, so that they can justify their slaughters without the need for reason. Like shooting to kill for touching a flag, or beating to death for being caught alone (old and young).

Court proceedings are "foreign" to your people as you spend most of the time dodging them whenever you have to face your crimes. Yet when you have a problem, you have decided on the verdict before any evidence has even been heard. That is what is "iffy" to my mind.

Why not wait till the outcome; you may hear a different story. But perhaps the intention is to milk-it now, for all it's worth.

So it is you and halil who do not respect the dead.


Oracle, one of the most well known ancient Greek mottos that constitute part of what we come to understand as the ancient Hellenic spirit, is the one claiming that “To laconizin esti philosophin” (laconising is being philosophizing.) This means that the less you speak, the more you think, and the more you think, the more you speak in a concise and useful manner. Another ancient Greek motto, issued by Grandfather Isocrates this time, claims that “Hellenes kalountaie i tis imeteras paedias metechontes” (Greeks are pronounce those participating and embracing Hellenic education and spirit.) This means that regardless of whether someone claims Greek genetic heritage or not, he can only be a Greek if he subscribes and practices the ideals of Hellenic education and sprit.

In view of the constant verbal and post issuing diarrhea you exhibit in the forum, you violate the above former principle; which means to speak less, think more, and when you speak to be concise, meaningful and useful. In view of the fact that you constantly violate a very important Hellenic principle, it means you are either ignorant or do not subscribe and /or practice the ideals of Hellenic education and sprit, and according to Isocrates -which I very much admire, you cannot be regarded a Greek!

PS: As a side-note to the above, the education given today in Cyprus and in Greece, light-years is distant from what came to be regarded as Hellenic education. Had it being one, pupils should have known by now what Isocrates had said on who is being Greek and who is not, and they should have never exhibited the racist attitudes they do against people originating from other countries and races. Education given nowadays in Cyprus and in Greece is a “fuck up” of religious conservatism, distorted interpretation of Greek history and culture and manipulative, parochial and dissembling right-wing agendas, in the name of “Greek-centered” education.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:57 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Gabira wrote:Yes agreed, anything that condemns the slaughter of innocent TC men, women, children and even TC owned cats will expectedly "sound a bit iffy" to people like Oracle. I'm suprised that you have even given TMT that much credit.


What sounded "iffy" was the way these people decided it was the RoC at fault. But then Turks assume everyone else is guilty first and foremost, so that they can justify their slaughters without the need for reason. Like shooting to kill for touching a flag, or beating to death for being caught alone (old and young).

Court proceedings are "foreign" to your people as you spend most of the time dodging them whenever you have to face your crimes. Yet when you have a problem, you have decided on the verdict before any evidence has even been heard. That is what is "iffy" to my mind.

Why not wait till the outcome; you may hear a different story. But perhaps the intention is to milk-it now, for all it's worth.

So it is you and halil who do not respect the dead.


Oracle, one of the most well known ancient Greek mottos that constitute part of what we come to understand as the ancient Hellenic spirit, is the one claiming that “To laconizin esti philosophin” (laconising is being philosophizing.) This means that the less you speak, the more you think, and the more you think, the more you speak in a concise and useful manner. Another ancient Greek motto, issued by Grandfather Isocrates this time, claims that “Hellenes kalountaie i tis imeteras paedias metechontes” (Greeks are pronounce those participating and embracing Hellenic education and spirit.) This means that regardless of whether someone claims Greek genetic heritage or not, he can only be a Greek if he subscribes and practices the ideals of Hellenic education and sprit.

In view of the constant verbal and post issuing diarrhea you exhibit in the forum, you violate the above former principle; which means to speak less, think more, and when you speak to be concise, meaningful and useful. In view of the fact that you constantly violate a very important Hellenic principle, it means you are either ignorant or do not subscribe and /or practice the ideals of Hellenic education and sprit, and according to Isocrates -which I very much admire, you cannot be regarded a Greek!


To sum up:

Leave it to Kifeas!

(BTW. Perhaps Isocrates was speaking about men; different principles applying to women since I can think and speak in synchrony :wink: I think! ..... Touched on by Socrates, "If you get a good woman, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." :lol: Keep it up Kifeas!)
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Postby Cem » Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:46 pm

Oracle said:

Leave it to Kifeas!

(BTW. Perhaps Isocrates was speaking about men; different principles applying to women since I can think and speak in synchrony :wink: I think! ..... Touched on by Socrates, "If you get a good woman, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." :lol: Keep it up Kifeas!)


Then, your hubby must be the biggest philosopher ever in this world, even overshadowing Platon.

Some side effects of a strenuous task such as living with you may have occurred, but it is not a problem at the end of the day. (see below)




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Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:51 pm

Yes, yes thank you Cem. Never failing to pick-up and state the obviously and intentionally inferred. :roll: Your comprehension is boundless!
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Postby Cem » Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:53 pm

Piratis wrote:
Gabira wrote:
Piratis wrote:Justice and democracy will prevail.


Well, that's a great start right at the end.

I managed to find only the 5 words quoted above in which I totally agree with in your personal version of events of Cyprus.

Justice will prevail, but your version of democracy, will not.


About what "my version" of democracy are you talking about? What I support is any version that meets the fundamental principles of democracy: Majority rule (one person - one vote) + minority rights.

Greeks made the first democracy and today many of the countries of the world follow those principles. Unfortunately you still have no idea what democracy means, or rather you do not accept it because you prefer decisions to be taken by the use of force, instead of allowing the people to decide in a democratic way (= one person one vote without racist discrimination and apartheid)


Greeks also made the first coup d'etat in Cyprus and tried to assassinate its democratically elected president.

Considering nearly half-million causalties during the greek civil war, one can not help not admiring the marvels of such a great hellenic civilization naturally.
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