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Postby Paphitis » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:49 am

utu wrote:
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Oracle wrote:Not to mention my favourite, by which to extricate you ...

Image

Mr H ... stop lying like the Turk you are :lol:


The above flag is so beautiful. It also has symbolic meaning to our struggle for independence.

Cyprus should adopt it. 8)


As the flag is loaded with Hellenic Symbols, selling it to the non-Greek Cypriots may be rather difficult...


I think you will find Hellenic symbols sell themselves in Cyprus. 8)

Besides, that flag is symbolic of Greece's 1821 struggle for freedom, something that has never been fully accomplished in Cyprus. Whilst Cyprus is still under occupation, just like Greece was, then perhaps the flag should be adopted as a secondary flag in order to inspire.

Cypriots were born Hellenes, and as Hellenes they shall die. 8)
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Re: United Federal Republic of Cyprus Flag - leaked!

Postby DT. » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:54 am

T_C wrote:
MrH wrote:Image

Hi all,
This is the "unofficial", but agreed! United Fed Republic of Cyprus flag that was apparently presented to the UN by Christofias and Talat in their last meeting!



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :evil:

It's terrible! It's worse than the Annan one. Much worse.

If we're going to unite and have 1 flag then I think we MUST keep the one that already exists.

The one above looks UGLY with the red and blue. It looks so "desperate" and TACKY.

It's really, really, really bad.

The RoC flag was designed by a TC. It's beautiful....so simple and perfect. :D


Bravo re T_C. :D
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Re: United Federal Republic of Cyprus Flag - leaked!

Postby halil » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:29 am

DT. wrote:
T_C wrote:
MrH wrote:Image

Hi all,
This is the "unofficial", but agreed! United Fed Republic of Cyprus flag that was apparently presented to the UN by Christofias and Talat in their last meeting!



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :evil:

It's terrible! It's worse than the Annan one. Much worse.

If we're going to unite and have 1 flag then I think we MUST keep the one that already exists.

The one above looks UGLY with the red and blue. It looks so "desperate" and TACKY.

It's really, really, really bad.

The RoC flag was designed by a TC. It's beautiful....so simple and perfect. :D


Bravo re T_C. :D


If we are giong to have a united federal republic of cyprus and have 1 flag and if they ask us to vote for flag .... yes i would vote for present one .
with this present condition in cyprus this flag does not represent me .
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:35 am

Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:to eraly to talk of flag. Read problems and see very litle hope for reunificaton.

UN special envoy warns 2009 last chance for peace in Cyprus

The article you posted is junk from the Hurriet… (ALWAYS INCLUDE YOUR LINK)

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/worl ... sp?gid=244

When it comes to the CyProb, never-ever read Turkish or Turkish Cypriot newspaper articles!

All statements supposedly made by Downer or some “UN report” in this article are bogus.

Downer would NEVER make a statement like… “The UN is tired of the Cyprus problem” or refer to the RoC as “the Greeks”.

Also, doing a search for the alleged statements should return just the one manufactured hit.

The entire article is not worth the paper it was written on.


Unfortunately the truth is that Downer did say the things Turkish newspapers “Sabah” and “Hurriyet” attribute to him, and for this he has no place anymore as a UN mediator in Cyprus. I have reasons to believe he did say them, and he was not convincing at all in his (non-)rejection statements yesterday, after Christofias and Talat meeting. When a supposedly neutral mediator adopts the Turkish propaganda mottos, namely that it was a mistake that the EU promised membership to Cyprus without a solution and that this will be the last chance and if the problem is not solved by 2009, partition will follow, then the best thing the GC side has to do is to demand his urgent replacement.

The above claims (slogans) were initiated the last 2-3 years by the Turkish propaganda, and subsequently were also adopted and circulated around Europe and the international community by the conservative Anglo-American web of politicians, media (FT, WSJ, etc) and “think tanks” such as the ICG, for the sole purpose of promoting and facilitating Turkey’s EU accession process through the neutralizing her obligations and responsibilities in Cyprus. This propaganda policy aims at victimizing the EU for Turkey’s non-substantial accession progress, by projecting it as the wrong doer; and at the same time to undermine and neutralize the GC side’s moral substratum in the EU. It furthermore aims at intimidating the GC side through the blackmailing and extorting notion that this will be the last chance for a solution, and that partition will follow if it does not (essentially) capitulate to the Turkish claims and expectations.

For this Anglo-American conservative and imperialist web of Turkey’s friends, it is not a mistake that Turkey (illegally) invaded Cyprus 1974, it is not a mistake that it usurped the GC properties in the north and is looting them ever since, it is not a mistake that Turkey transfers for its own population in the north to permanently alter the demographics of the place, it is not a mistake that Turkey illegally occupies Cyprus for 35 years and has in this way been violating human rights and contributing to the isolation of the TC community, it is not a mistake that for thirdly (30) long years Turkey’s Cyprus policy was based on Ecevi’s and Denktash’s doctrine that “the Cyprus problem was solved once and for all in 1974,” it is not a mistake that the UN, the EU and the US have done close to nothing against any of the above wrongdoings of Turkey; but it is only a mistake that the EU admitted Cyprus as its member without a solution for which (non-solution) Turkey primarily bears the responsibility, as it was documented both by the EU and the UN up until Cyprus’ EU accession.

After allowing for more than 3 decades all the above, and after allowing the years to pass without telling turkey even once off; because now there is a need for Turkey to have a solution urgently for the sake of her EU aspirations, they started blackmailing the GC side which was and still is essentially the victim of all the past wrongdoings of Turkey, that this is the “last chance.” Where this pro-Turkish Anglo-American conservative web -whose membership it seems Downer has proudly attained, has been all these years?

The GC side should immediately call for Downer’s replacement, before worst things come out of his mouth and actions! He is very dangerous!
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Re: United Federal Republic of Cyprus Flag - leaked!

Postby Oracle » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:36 am

utu wrote:
T_C wrote:
MrH wrote:Image

Hi all,
This is the "unofficial", but agreed! United Fed Republic of Cyprus flag that was apparently presented to the UN by Christofias and Talat in their last meeting!



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :evil:

It's terrible! It's worse than the Annan one. Much worse.

If we're going to unite and have 1 flag then I think we MUST keep the one that already exists.

The one above looks UGLY with the red and blue. It looks so "desperate" and TACKY.

It's really, really, really bad.

The RoC flag was designed by a TC. It's beautiful....so simple and perfect. :D


Hey, if people are designing flags, I might as well add my one to the list (a little bit of EU blue...)
Image


I could go for this :D ... especially if you add a few smudges to represent the Rock of Aphrodite down by the Paphos Coast ....
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Re: United Federal Republic of Cyprus Flag - leaked!

Postby Paphitis » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:43 am

Oracle wrote:
utu wrote:
T_C wrote:
MrH wrote:Image

Hi all,
This is the "unofficial", but agreed! United Fed Republic of Cyprus flag that was apparently presented to the UN by Christofias and Talat in their last meeting!



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :evil:

It's terrible! It's worse than the Annan one. Much worse.

If we're going to unite and have 1 flag then I think we MUST keep the one that already exists.

The one above looks UGLY with the red and blue. It looks so "desperate" and TACKY.

It's really, really, really bad.

The RoC flag was designed by a TC. It's beautiful....so simple and perfect. :D


Hey, if people are designing flags, I might as well add my one to the list (a little bit of EU blue...)
Image


I could go for this :D ... especially if you add a few smudges to represent the Rock of Aphrodite down by the Paphos Coast ....


Are ypou serious? :shock: That is just as bad as the Cypriot/French design.
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Postby lovernomore » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:29 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:to eraly to talk of flag. Read problems and see very litle hope for reunificaton.

UN special envoy warns 2009 last chance for peace in Cyprus

The article you posted is junk from the Hurriet… (ALWAYS INCLUDE YOUR LINK)

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/worl ... sp?gid=244

When it comes to the CyProb, never-ever read Turkish or Turkish Cypriot newspaper articles!

All statements supposedly made by Downer or some “UN report” in this article are bogus.

Downer would NEVER make a statement like… “The UN is tired of the Cyprus problem” or refer to the RoC as “the Greeks”.

Also, doing a search for the alleged statements should return just the one manufactured hit.

The entire article is not worth the paper it was written on.


Unfortunately the truth is that Downer did say the things Turkish newspapers “Sabah” and “Hurriyet” attribute to him, and for this he has no place anymore as a UN mediator in Cyprus. I have reasons to believe he did say them, and he was not convincing at all in his (non-)rejection statements yesterday, after Christofias and Talat meeting. When a supposedly neutral mediator adopts the Turkish propaganda mottos, namely that it was a mistake that the EU promised membership to Cyprus without a solution and that this will be the last chance and if the problem is not solved by 2009, partition will follow, then the best thing the GC side has to do is to demand his urgent replacement.

The above claims (slogans) were initiated the last 2-3 years by the Turkish propaganda, and subsequently were also adopted and circulated around Europe and the international community by the conservative Anglo-American web of politicians, media (FT, WSJ, etc) and “think tanks” such as the ICG, for the sole purpose of promoting and facilitating Turkey’s EU accession process through the neutralizing her obligations and responsibilities in Cyprus. This propaganda policy aims at victimizing the EU for Turkey’s non-substantial accession progress, by projecting it as the wrong doer; and at the same time to undermine and neutralize the GC side’s moral substratum in the EU. It furthermore aims at intimidating the GC side through the blackmailing and extorting notion that this will be the last chance for a solution, and that partition will follow if it does not (essentially) capitulate to the Turkish claims and expectations.

For this Anglo-American conservative and imperialist web of Turkey’s friends, it is not a mistake that Turkey (illegally) invaded Cyprus 1974, it is not a mistake that it usurped the GC properties in the north and is looting them ever since, it is not a mistake that Turkey transfers for its own population in the north to permanently alter the demographics of the place, it is not a mistake that Turkey illegally occupies Cyprus for 35 years and has in this way been violating human rights and contributing to the isolation of the TC community, it is not a mistake that for thirdly (30) long years Turkey’s Cyprus policy was based on Ecevi’s and Denktash’s doctrine that “the Cyprus problem was solved once and for all in 1974,” it is not a mistake that the UN, the EU and the US have done close to nothing against any of the above wrongdoings of Turkey; but it is only a mistake that the EU admitted Cyprus as its member without a solution for which (non-solution) Turkey primarily bears the responsibility, as it was documented both by the EU and the UN up until Cyprus’ EU accession.

After allowing for more than 3 decades all the above, and after allowing the years to pass without telling turkey even once off; because now there is a need for Turkey to have a solution urgently for the sake of her EU aspirations, they started blackmailing the GC side which was and still is essentially the victim of all the past wrongdoings of Turkey, that this is the “last chance.” Where this pro-Turkish Anglo-American conservative web -whose membership it seems Downer has proudly attained, has been all these years?

The GC side should immediately call for Downer’s replacement, before worst things come out of his mouth and actions! He is very dangerous!


BRAVO KIFEAS GR, oracel, Paphitis and the rest stuborn Greeks, oh sorry bre GR Greek Cypriots, what have you got to say to this?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:38 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:to eraly to talk of flag. Read problems and see very litle hope for reunificaton.

UN special envoy warns 2009 last chance for peace in Cyprus

The article you posted is junk from the Hurriet… (ALWAYS INCLUDE YOUR LINK)

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/worl ... sp?gid=244

When it comes to the CyProb, never-ever read Turkish or Turkish Cypriot newspaper articles!

All statements supposedly made by Downer or some “UN report” in this article are bogus.

Downer would NEVER make a statement like… “The UN is tired of the Cyprus problem” or refer to the RoC as “the Greeks”.

Also, doing a search for the alleged statements should return just the one manufactured hit.

The entire article is not worth the paper it was written on.

Unfortunately the truth is that Downer did say the things Turkish newspapers “Sabah” and “Hurriyet” attribute to him, and for this he has no place anymore as a UN mediator in Cyprus. I have reasons to believe he did say them, and he was not convincing at all in his (non-)rejection statements yesterday, after Christofias and Talat meeting.

Sorry Kifeas, but that's not good enough without credible evidence. The TC press has zero credibility as I’ve lost count how many times we’ve caught them with their pants down blatantly lying.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:44 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:to eraly to talk of flag. Read problems and see very litle hope for reunificaton.

UN special envoy warns 2009 last chance for peace in Cyprus

The article you posted is junk from the Hurriet… (ALWAYS INCLUDE YOUR LINK)

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/worl ... sp?gid=244

When it comes to the CyProb, never-ever read Turkish or Turkish Cypriot newspaper articles!

All statements supposedly made by Downer or some “UN report” in this article are bogus.

Downer would NEVER make a statement like… “The UN is tired of the Cyprus problem” or refer to the RoC as “the Greeks”.

Also, doing a search for the alleged statements should return just the one manufactured hit.

The entire article is not worth the paper it was written on.

Unfortunately the truth is that Downer did say the things Turkish newspapers “Sabah” and “Hurriyet” attribute to him, and for this he has no place anymore as a UN mediator in Cyprus. I have reasons to believe he did say them, and he was not convincing at all in his (non-)rejection statements yesterday, after Christofias and Talat meeting.

Sorry Kifeas, but that's not good enough without credible evidence. The TC press has zero credibility as I’ve lost count how many times we’ve caught them with their pants down blatantly lying.


I am not totally convinced that Downer didn't say these things as all he would deny was saying them to the media.

Don't most Aussies think he is a plonker anway?
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Postby Cem » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:44 pm

bill cobbett wrote:...Looks a bit French to me. :lol:


Rather, a bit Dutch to me... like..ahem..flying dutchman... :lol:
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