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The futility of terrorism

Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:37 pm

Twenty years ago this evening Pan Am flight 103 disintegrated above the Scottish Borders en route from London to New York. All 243 passengers and 16 crew members on board died, and 11 residents of the small Scottish town of Lockerbie were killed as a result of the impact of the falling parts of the plane.
http://www.relativesremembered.com/memo ... ?memid=427

The subsequent investigation showed that the Boeing 747 aeroplane had broken up following a bomb explosion within the forward luggage hold. Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi, a Libyan intelligence officer, is currently serving 27 years in a Scottish prison having been convicted of murder. The Libyan governement has subsequently paid over US$2 billion to relatives of the deceased.

I know small-town Scotland well and remember clearly my shock at the horror experienced by the residents of Lockerbie, let alone the relatives and friends of the dead. Incidentally, there is a Cyprus connection to this tragic story - four US intelligence officers operating in the region (Beirut, although one was a security officer in the US embassy in Nicosia) had flown from Cyprus that morning, and connected with Pan Am 103 in London for the return home for Christmas.

To this day I still do not understand the objectives of the bombers above that of downing the plane and killing the occupants. If the Libyan involvement is real, then what was in it for Libya? Twenty years on the relatives are still mourning, and yet the reasons for the terrorist actions remain murky. Does terrorism really work as a means for change, or is this an example of pointless deaths for no reason beyond the act of the bombing itself?
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Re: The futility of terrorism

Postby Get Real! » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:52 pm

Talisker wrote:To this day I still do not understand the objectives of the bombers above that of downing the plane and killing the occupants. If the Libyan involvement is real, then what was in it for Libya?

Consider this incident, which occurred just a couple of years earlier, as the trigger…

“The United States bombing of Libya (code-named Operation El Dorado Canyon) comprised the joint United States Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps air-strikes against Libya on April 15, 1986”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_El_Dorado_Canyon
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Postby miltiades » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:16 am

Pou en mbori na deri ton garon derni to sama.

There again you were in a position to "justify " the recent massacre carried out by savages in India.
What is it with you that you consider all barbaric inhumane acts against innocent civilians as the result of some American action. !!
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Re: The futility of terrorism

Postby Talisker » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:24 am

Get Real! wrote:
Talisker wrote:To this day I still do not understand the objectives of the bombers above that of downing the plane and killing the occupants. If the Libyan involvement is real, then what was in it for Libya?

Consider this incident, which occurred just a couple of years earlier, as the trigger…

“The United States bombing of Libya (code-named Operation El Dorado Canyon) comprised the joint United States Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps air-strikes against Libya on April 15, 1986”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_El_Dorado_Canyon

Yes. I remember that, and know the link, but I struggle to come to terms with the concept of state-sponsored terrorism resulting in mass murder of innocent civilians. Of course, one could argue that the US themselves are guilty of the same........with the UK complict on occasion too.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:05 am

miltiades wrote:There again you were in a position to "justify " the recent massacre carried out by savages in India.
What is it with you that you consider all barbaric inhumane acts against innocent civilians as the result of some American action. !!

It’s unfortunate that the US’ constant terrorist attacks on other nations, makes the job of identifying other GENUINE terrorist attacks by non-Americans from anti-US reprisals, very difficult if not impossible.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:19 am

Like the suicide bomber last week in Iraq for instance who massacred tens of innocent Iraqi civilians , or indeed the sick bastards who shot one of our compatriots amongst others in cold blood.
Cant you get it through your head that these people are perverted psychopaths , savages who have been thoroughly brainwashed by a warped interpretation of a religion , and who are prepared to kill and maim innocent man women and children .The savages who caused the death of innocent airline passengers at Lockerbie are barbarians in every sense of the world. Do you fly , would you agree that some mentally deranged barbarian takes you and all other passengers down while praising his perceived saviour !! I think not , may they rot in hell .
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:31 am

miltiades wrote:Like the suicide bomber last week in Iraq for instance who massacred tens of innocent Iraqi civilians ,

Prior to the US' illegal invasion of Iraq, "suicide bombers" were unheard of in Iraq.

or indeed the sick bastards who shot one of our compatriots amongst others in cold blood.

If you're referring to Mumbai then everything I've read so far points to the CIA instigating it.

Cant you get it through your head that these people are perverted psychopaths , savages who have been thoroughly brainwashed by a warped interpretation of a religion , and who are prepared to kill and maim innocent man women and children. The savages who caused the death of innocent airline passengers at Lockerbie are barbarians in every sense of the world. Do you fly , would you agree that some mentally deranged barbarian takes you and all other passengers down while praising his perceived saviour !! I think not , may they rot in hell .

Which came first… the suicide bomber or the American bomber?
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Postby miltiades » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:11 am

Savages existed long before mate , as for the CIA involved in the Bombay massacre , I wonder what brand you smoke , you ought to change it quickly cause is clouding your brain !!

ps. Is it the same CIA that executed the 7/11 as well as the 7/7 in London , not forgetting the Bali one too !!
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Postby roseandchan » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:01 am

what conserns me with these lunatics is that they often use others to do their dirty work.
they befriend and groom them for their cause.

a friend of mine who has nieces at school in ankara, recently found out that the pkk were grooming the teenagers for their cause.
they thought they were involved in human rights stuff, but it came to light it was the pkk involved.
luckily they found out in time and the situation was dealt with.
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