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[miltiades]

This is the thread of a fool who thinks he is above the general population by singling out this one unfortunate incident.

Such things are contemptible and unacceptable anywhere, and Cyprus is well known for bringing to light (not hiding like others) such thankfully rare occurrences .... Yes make the most of this isolated news doesntmatter, because we will not find many genuine cases in Cyprus.

Now care to discuss "Institutionalized Racism" such as that practiced every minute of the day by Turkey ....

When her father tried to report the incident he was told to fill in a medical form and to return with it later. The teen’s father did as he was asked only to be told that the afternoon shift that had handled the incident had gone home.

“He was told to come back the next day. When he went by today he was told that the shift hadn’t come to work yet and that they would contact him,” Polycarpou said.

The incident may be an unusually extreme form of racist violence, but it nevertheless takes place in a broader social framework, where racist attitudes and discrimination against migrants and refugees (concerning employment, housing and other aspects of daily life) now dominate.”

You don't call what's happening in Greek South Cyprus "Institutionalized Racism"?

YOU, the worst Greek racist in this forum?

First of all there is no Greek South Cyprus ... only a racist Turk that condones the racist segregation of 200,000 GCs from their homes and lands of many generations would use such terminology.

Secondly nothing that you have presented has any semblance of institutionalised racism pertaining to the RoC ... So go tell it on the Mountain! ... to a few Kurds that you love so much, you fascist fool!

Will it be the Pentadactilo mountain , "five fingers " or in his case two fingers !!

Indeed Oracle , there IS NO South Cyprus , these fools ought to realize that the island of Cyprus IS NOT for sale either to Turkey or to Greece .

[Nikephoros]

Here are some old Turkish news article from Cyprus Press Review:

ORTAM (13.8.96)
ORTAM (13.8.96) reports that Mr Denktash welcomed the "Idealists" and said: "The Greek Cypriots should sit and think: `Only part of them came from Turkey. What shall we do if the whole of Turkey came?'". Mr Denktash said, moreover, that if the Greek Cypriots do not give up this kind of protest activities they will face more trouble.

HURRIYET (27.8.96)
The Turkish paper HURRIYET (27.8.96) reports that the Deputy Secretary General of the Republican People's Party (CHP) in Turkey, Istanbul deputy, Mehmet Sevigen, accused the Turkish Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Tansu Ciller of paying 65 billion Turkish Lira* to the ultra-nationalist Grey Wolves and Idealist Hearths members who went to Cyprus to confront the Greek Cypriot demonstrators. ...

For reference the Anastasios (Tassos) Isaac was killed on August 11 1996, before Denktash made his threatening comments for Greek Cypriots to ponder that there were many more such people in fanatic land Turkey. A second Greek Cypriot was killed August 14.

Alot of these Turkish takkiye(masters of deception) on this forum think the whole world is stupid. Fanaticism is normalized and respected in their society and state tradition. I do not see where their fake umbrage comes from when in their country people are hailed lik the Idealist Hearths and Grey Wolves who killed two Greek Cypriots. Infact the Turkish government paid and planned for their whole enterprise.

I think the comments of this highly respected Turkish historian sums up their ethos as a nation:

"Halil Inalcik. a highly-respected historian of the Ottoman Empire and Turkey, wrote an article in 1964. titled "Osmanlı Devrinde Türk Ordusu" (The Turkish Military in the Ottoman Period) where he argued that "the Turkish nation has conserved its military-nation characteristic from the beginning of history till today" and that Turks are used to living as hakim (dominant) and efendi (master). İnalcık 1964. 56. This article appeared in the journal Türk Kültürü (Turkish Culture) and was re-printed in the same journal in 1972 and in 1994.

Source:
Altinay, Ayse Gul. Myth Of The Military Nation. (Palgrave, 2004; 1st Edition) p. 13.

This is the crux of the problem with Turkish Cypriots in general. From the beginning they could not accept to be a minority because as the historian said, Turks are accustomed to live as efendi(master) and hakim(dominant) over others(IE: Not as a peaceable minority, they want to form a ruling caste). On the contrary to what Turkish Cypriot takkiye masters on the forum say 2,000 Turkish Cypriots live in the Roc, the same cannot be said the other way around.

[Piratis]

Where did I justify them? I always condemn such actions and I give absolutely no excuse to them.

However this incident has absolutely nothing to do with the Cyprus problem.

What has to do with the Cyprus problem, is the fact that some TCs/Turks are using some irrelevant event that could happen in every other country as an excuse for their own racism against hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Piratis
I disagree with you that this incident is not related to Cyprus problem because these racist thugs show identical racial aggression towards TC's also and what makes it worse is that your administration do not do much in the way of punishing them.

Racists exists everywhere and they have always existed. It is not a problem that can be totally solved.

If you support the human rights violations of 100s of thousands of innocent people using such incidents as an excuse, then you are a racist yourself.

[Piratis]

Where did I justify them? I always condemn such actions and I give absolutely no excuse to them.

However this incident has absolutely nothing to do with the Cyprus problem.

What has to do with the Cyprus problem, is the fact that some TCs/Turks are using some irrelevant event that could happen in every other country as an excuse for their own racism against hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

"irrelevant event"?

A 15 year old girl is beaten up by a bunch of racist thugs just because they lost the match, the police does nothing whatsoever to arrest and procecute the perpetrators and you have the cheek to call it an "irrelevant event".

This has everything to do with the Cyprus problem which you are trying to sweep under the carpet because we all know that this sort of racist "events" has happned many times in the past against TCs and the police did absolutely nothing about it.

Shame on you to call this an "irrelevant event" and being a moderator makes it even worse.

You criminal scum are the last person on earth to give to me lectures about racism. You are trying to use this issue looking for ways to excuse your own racist actions against 100s of thousands of innocent people. It is perfectly obvious why you started this topic here.

Every day you keep 100s of thousands of innocent people out of their own homes at gunpoint, and if they dare to demonstrate against your illegal actions you kill them, as it happened with Isaak and Solomou.

And this is only your racism as exhibited against us. I will not even go to other incidents, such as murders of Armenian journalists, and the criminal actions of your beloved Gray Wolves.

In Cyprus we might have some problem of racism like every other country, but still our journalists can write about it and you can read it. In Turkey the state itself is racist, and racist groups like the Gray Wolves are sponsored by the state. Journalists in Turkey that even dare to talk about these things risk to be murdered, jailed or exiled.

So yes, racism is a problem and you and the regime you support are part of this problem.

[doesntmatter]

All civilized people the world over condemn such disgusting events . This attack was not perpetrated by the entire G/C population but by a bunch of ignorant little shits , to make a political story out of it is utterly futile , I have noticed that the same people who are dead opposed to our island becoming united are the same who will search in the gutter for any story to use as their motive for betraying Cyprus.

You are right, this racist act was not perpetrated by the entire GC population but those guilty ones are protected by the GC police. No investigation is being carried out and no one is arrested but you don't say a word about that. In fact you try to hide it by keeping completely stum about it, shame on you.

cyprus-mail is a GC newspaper and it's news headlines are scrolled at the bottom of the CF forum, are you saying that the CF forum and the cyprus mail are "the gutter"?

I stand for law and order , for human rights , freedom of thought and expression , for a united Cyprus run by Cypriots for the benefit of Cypriots and I don't fly a bloody foreign rug as my avatar mate !!
But there again you are not a Cypriot !!

You are such a "Cypriot" that you don't even care to use the "Cypriot" flag or any other symbol to show your "love" to your "coutry.

If you weren't such a pillock and bothered to take your head out of your own backside, you'd know that the Turkish flag is the flag of the TCs and according to the Cyprus constitution it is not a foreign flag.

Now run along and play with the traffic or go and play hopscotch in a minefield or something and stop talking about things you have absolutely no idea about.

[iceman]

Where did I justify them? I always condemn such actions and I give absolutely no excuse to them.

However this incident has absolutely nothing to do with the Cyprus problem.

What has to do with the Cyprus problem, is the fact that some TCs/Turks are using some irrelevant event that could happen in every other country as an excuse for their own racism against hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Piratis
I disagree with you that this incident is not related to Cyprus problem because these racist thugs show identical racial aggression towards TC's also and what makes it worse is that your administration do not do much in the way of punishing them.

Racists exists everywhere and they have always existed. It is not a problem that can be totally solved.

If you support the human rights violations of 100s of thousands of innocent people using such incidents as an excuse, then you are a racist yourself.

You know damn well i don't support human rights violation of ANY Cypriot and i am not afraid of condoning this violation at every opportunity.
I only wish you did the same...then we might get somewhere..

[doesntmatter]

Where did I justify them? I always condemn such actions and I give absolutely no excuse to them.

However this incident has absolutely nothing to do with the Cyprus problem.

What has to do with the Cyprus problem, is the fact that some TCs/Turks are using some irrelevant event that could happen in every other country as an excuse for their own racism against hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

"irrelevant event"?

A 15 year old girl is beaten up by a bunch of racist thugs just because they lost the match, the police does nothing whatsoever to arrest and procecute the perpetrators and you have the cheek to call it an "irrelevant event".

This has everything to do with the Cyprus problem which you are trying to sweep under the carpet because we all know that this sort of racist "events" has happned many times in the past against TCs and the police did absolutely nothing about it.

Shame on you to call this an "irrelevant event" and being a moderator makes it even worse.

You criminal scum are the last person on earth to give to me lectures about racism. You are trying to use this issue looking for ways to excuse your own racist actions against 100s of thousands of innocent people. It is perfectly obvious why you started this topic here.

Every day you keep 100s of thousands of innocent people out of their own homes at gunpoint, and if they dare to demonstrate against your illegal actions you kill them, as it happened with Isaak and Solomou.

And this is only your racism as exhibited against us. I will not even go to other incidents, such as murders of Armenian journalists, and the criminal actions of your beloved Gray Wolves.

In Cyprus we might have some problem of racism like every other country, but still our journalists can write about it and you can read it. In Turkey the state itself is racist, and racist groups like the Gray Wolves are sponsored by the state. Journalists in Turkey that even dare to talk about these things risk to be murdered, jailed or exiled.

So yes, racism is a problem and you and the regime you support are part of this problem.

You as a Moderater should know that personal attacks are against forum rules, who the hell made you a "Moderator"? If you can't keep your emotions and personal attacks on forum members under control then you have no right being a moderator and should resign.

Listen mate, the only reason why Cyprus is divided with a border running through is because of GCs like you who want to punish us for what the Ottoman supposidly did to the GCs hundreds of years ago. God knows you repeat the same crap in almost everyone of your posts.

People like you are the type that would hang a whole family along with a murderer and not just the guilty person. The "regime" I support is to keep me and the rest of the TCs safe from people like you who would at the very first chance do the same to us what the racist scum did to the poor girl, if not worse.

What you are doing here is no better than the GC police in the South. As a "Moderator" it is your duty to stop racism and personal attacks in the forum but instead you let it go on and even join in and call me a "criminal scum". Shame on you and shame on the person who made you a "Moderator".

With people like you around there will never be a unification or peace on the island.

[doesntmatter]

This is the thread of a fool who thinks he is above the general population by singling out this one unfortunate incident.

Such things are contemptible and unacceptable anywhere, and Cyprus is well known for bringing to light (not hiding like others) such thankfully rare occurrences .... Yes make the most of this isolated news doesntmatter, because we will not find many genuine cases in Cyprus.

Now care to discuss "Institutionalized Racism" such as that practiced every minute of the day by Turkey ....

When her father tried to report the incident he was told to fill in a medical form and to return with it later. The teen’s father did as he was asked only to be told that the afternoon shift that had handled the incident had gone home.

“He was told to come back the next day. When he went by today he was told that the shift hadn’t come to work yet and that they would contact him,” Polycarpou said.

The incident may be an unusually extreme form of racist violence, but it nevertheless takes place in a broader social framework, where racist attitudes and discrimination against migrants and refugees (concerning employment, housing and other aspects of daily life) now dominate.”

You don't call what's happening in Greek South Cyprus "Institutionalized Racism"?

YOU, the worst Greek racist in this forum?

First of all there is no Greek South Cyprus ... only a racist Turk that condones the racist segregation of 200,000 GCs from their homes and lands of many generations would use such terminology.

Secondly nothing that you have presented has any semblance of institutionalised racism pertaining to the RoC ... So go tell it on the Mountain! ... to a few Kurds that you love so much, you fascist fool!

Your police is doing abosolutely nothing about racism in your own South Cyprus, foreigners are discriminated against in jobs, housing, employment and other aspects of life and you are trying to tell us that institutionalised racism does not exist in the Greek South Cyprus?

Why am I not surprised that the worst raicst of the CF forum would take her racist bretheren, including the GCs police, under her personal protection!

[doesntmatter]

This is the thread of a fool who thinks he is above the general population by singling out this one unfortunate incident.

Such things are contemptible and unacceptable anywhere, and Cyprus is well known for bringing to light (not hiding like others) such thankfully rare occurrences .... Yes make the most of this isolated news doesntmatter, because we will not find many genuine cases in Cyprus.

Now care to discuss "Institutionalized Racism" such as that practiced every minute of the day by Turkey ....

When her father tried to report the incident he was told to fill in a medical form and to return with it later. The teen’s father did as he was asked only to be told that the afternoon shift that had handled the incident had gone home.

“He was told to come back the next day. When he went by today he was told that the shift hadn’t come to work yet and that they would contact him,” Polycarpou said.

The incident may be an unusually extreme form of racist violence, but it nevertheless takes place in a broader social framework, where racist attitudes and discrimination against migrants and refugees (concerning employment, housing and other aspects of daily life) now dominate.”

You don't call what's happening in Greek South Cyprus "Institutionalized Racism"?

YOU, the worst Greek racist in this forum?

First of all there is no Greek South Cyprus ... only a racist Turk that condones the racist segregation of 200,000 GCs from their homes and lands of many generations would use such terminology.

Secondly nothing that you have presented has any semblance of institutionalised racism pertaining to the RoC ... So go tell it on the Mountain! ... to a few Kurds that you love so much, you fascist fool!

Will it be the Pentadactilo mountain , "five fingers " or in his case two fingers !!

Indeed Oracle , there IS NO South Cyprus , these fools ought to realize that the island of Cyprus IS NOT for sale either to Turkey or to Greece .

It is also not for sale or to be given away to the GCs either.

"Greek controlled South="RoC"=Greek South Cyprus" and "Turkish controlled North=TRNC", facts are facts, has been since 1974 and will be for a very long time to come. You are, however, free to call it whatever you like to dream of but whatever you do call it, does and will not make any difference, whatsoever.

[miltiades]

This is the thread of a fool who thinks he is above the general population by singling out this one unfortunate incident.

Such things are contemptible and unacceptable anywhere, and Cyprus is well known for bringing to light (not hiding like others) such thankfully rare occurrences .... Yes make the most of this isolated news doesntmatter, because we will not find many genuine cases in Cyprus.

Now care to discuss "Institutionalized Racism" such as that practiced every minute of the day by Turkey ....

When her father tried to report the incident he was told to fill in a medical form and to return with it later. The teen’s father did as he was asked only to be told that the afternoon shift that had handled the incident had gone home.

“He was told to come back the next day. When he went by today he was told that the shift hadn’t come to work yet and that they would contact him,” Polycarpou said.

The incident may be an unusually extreme form of racist violence, but it nevertheless takes place in a broader social framework, where racist attitudes and discrimination against migrants and refugees (concerning employment, housing and other aspects of daily life) now dominate.”

You don't call what's happening in Greek South Cyprus "Institutionalized Racism"?

YOU, the worst Greek racist in this forum?

First of all there is no Greek South Cyprus ... only a racist Turk that condones the racist segregation of 200,000 GCs from their homes and lands of many generations would use such terminology.

Secondly nothing that you have presented has any semblance of institutionalised racism pertaining to the RoC ... So go tell it on the Mountain! ... to a few Kurds that you love so much, you fascist fool!

Will it be the Pentadactilo mountain , "five fingers " or in his case two fingers !!

Indeed Oracle , there IS NO South Cyprus , these fools ought to realize that the island of Cyprus IS NOT for sale either to Turkey or to Greece .

It is also not for sale or to be given away to the GCs either.

"Greek controlled South="RoC"=Greek South Cyprus" and "Turkish controlled North=TRNC", facts are facts, has been since 1974 and will be for a very long time to come. You are, however, free to call it whatever you like to dream of but whatever you do call it, does and will not make any difference, whatsoever.

NO mate , ROC IS recognised by all , has its own currency , passport , ID , Embassies worldwide with diplomatic status, an independent government and judiciary , industries that produce countless products that have EU recognition , and above all the decency to offer free health service to all Cypriots not just the G/Cs. Now lets see what Turkey's creation has . No recognition , NO currency , NO PASSPORTS OR IDS No Embassies worldwide , no industries to talk off apart from casinos and prostitution . Produces Nothing that can be exported worldwide legally.
Has no independent judiciary and relies on handouts from a third world country to survive.THESE ARE THE FACTS MY FRIEND.

ps. Let me just correct you on the matter of who owns Cyprus . ALL CYPRIOTS , CYPRUS IS AN INDEPENDENT NATION , GREECE AND TURKEY ARE BLOODY FOREIGNERS THAT OUGHT TO GET THE HELL OUT OF CYPRUS.

Foreigners such as you , are the cause of all of our troubles.
LONG LIVE CYPRUS , MY BIRTH COUNTRY AND THAT OF MY ANCESSTORS.