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U.K. Couple Should Demolish CY Home, EU Aide Says

Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:21 pm

U.K. Couple Should Demolish Cyprus Home, EU Aide Says
By Caroline Byrne

Dec. 18 (Bloomberg) -- A British couple ordered by a judge in southern Cyprus to demolish their vacation home in northern Cyprus should be bound by the ruling, an adviser to the European Union’s highest court said in a non-binding opinion today.

An adviser to The European Court of Justice in Luxembourg said the southern Cyprus court has jurisdiction to order Linda and David Orams to demolish their home in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

The case, which has bounced from courts in Nicosia to London and Luxembourg in the past two years, has implications for thousands of Britons who own property in Northern Cyprus. The Orams, from Hove, England, invested 160,000 pounds ($246,000) in a holiday home in Lapithos, a region in the north occupied by Turkish troops in 1974.

The decision of the Cyprus court should require the U.K. courts to act, regardless of whether it is practical to enforce the ruling at this time, the opinion said.

“A judgment of a court in the Republic of Cyprus must be recognized and enforced in other member states even where it relates to land in northern Cyprus,” Advocate General Juliane Kokott said in her opinion. The European Union court generally follows such non-binding legal advice and is expected to rule within a year.

Meletios Apostolides, who brought the action against the couple, argued in a U.K. hearing that the law of Northern Cyprus couldn’t be relied on to deprive him of title to the land. Tom Beazley, Apostolides’s London-based lawyer, didn’t have an immediate comment.

Cyprus has been divided since 1974, when Turkey invaded the northern third of the island to block attempts to unite the country with Greece. While the Nicosia court order is unenforceable in Northern Cyprus, Greek Cypriot residents can bring claims in southern Cyprus and other European Union member states under a 2001 regulation that allowed judgments in one country to be enforced in another.

The Republic of Cyprus on the southern part of the island joined the EU in 2004.

Hassan Vahib, the London-based lawyer for the Orams, wasn’t in the office and didn’t immediately respond to a phone message today.
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Britons in fight for Cyprus home

An adviser to the EU's top court says a ruling against the British owners of a holiday home in Turkish-controlled northern Cyprus should be recognised.

The Court of Appeal of England and Wales had requested a legal opinion from the European Court of Justice.

Linda and David Orams are engaged in a long-running legal battle with Meletios Apostolides, a Greek Cypriot who claims the land their home stands on.
Breakaway Turkish-held northern Cyprus is not internationally recognised.

The Orams, a retired couple from Hove in Sussex, got a favourable ruling in 2006 from the UK High Court, which said they could keep their villa in northern Cyprus.

But Mr Apostolides appealed, insisting that the land was rightfully his because his family had been uprooted from it by the Turkish invasion in 1974.

The UK High Court ruling came after the Nicosia District Court, in the Republic of Cyprus, had ruled that the Orams should demolish their house, return the land and pay "rent" for the time they lived there.

The Advocate General, Juliane Kokott, has now advised the European Court of Justice that the Nicosia court "has jurisdiction in relation to the property dispute, irrespective of the fact that the Republic of Cyprus does not exercise effective control over Northern Cyprus".
Her opinion is not binding on the European court's judges, but in most cases they follow her recommendations.

Ms Kokott was asked to interpret the EU's Brussels Regulation in this case - a regulation dealing with the recognition and enforcement of judgments issued by courts in other EU member states.

Test case
The Republic of Cyprus joined the EU in 2004, even though it does not control the northern part of the island.
Property disputes are one of the main obstacles to efforts to reunify Cyprus.

EU law was suspended in northern Cyprus for the purposes of Cyprus's accession, but the advocate general argues that the Orams' civil case still falls within the scope of the EU regulation.

"The fact that the [Nicosia court's] judgment cannot actually be enforced at this time does not, in the Advocate General's opinion, relieve courts in other member states from the obligation to recognise and enforce the judgment," a statement from the European Court of Justice said.

It is seen as a test case because estate agents in northern Cyprus have sold many holiday homes to British citizens. The European court's rulings are binding on EU member states.

The judges in Luxembourg have started considering the Orams' case and they may take three to six months to reach a verdict, a court spokesman told the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7789444.stm

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Postby juliesewell » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:39 pm

Let's hope courts take notice of the recommendation!
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:26 pm

They may not, allowing for the reprecussions it will have just as the 2 sides try to negotiate a deal, it will put on the back burner for a few more years.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:06 pm

Viewpoint wrote:They may not, allowing for the reprecussions it will have just as the 2 sides try to negotiate a deal, it will put on the back burner for a few more years.


The world does not stop revolving just because the GC's and TC's can't, won't or unable to sort their problems out. The rest of the world goes on about their business as if there was no Cyprus problem. I think you have reminded of this fact to us few times in the past, so I do not expect the EU to put anything on hold just to please us. If anything, this legal opinion becoming law will help narrow the discussions on GC's property in the north, so everyone will knows exactly where they stand. If we had this ruling before 2004, you could have ripped off few hundred pages from the Annan Plan, almost saving a tree from paper wasted .!
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:29 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:They may not, allowing for the reprecussions it will have just as the 2 sides try to negotiate a deal, it will put on the back burner for a few more years.


The world does not stop revolving just because the GC's and TC's can't, won't or unable to sort their problems out. The rest of the world goes on about their business as if there was no Cyprus problem. I think you have reminded of this fact to us few times in the past, so I do not expect the EU to put anything on hold just to please us. If anything, this legal opinion becoming law will help narrow the discussions on GC's property in the north, so everyone will knows exactly where they stand. If we had this ruling before 2004, you could have ripped off few hundred pages from the Annan Plan, almost saving a tree from paper wasted .!


Why do you have to mix scarcasm with everything you write, you know its the lowest form of intelligence and dont count your chickens before they hatch, lets all read the ruling when its made and act accordingly, the majority of Brits are still to obtain deeds from the TRNC so with no evidence they they have actually purchased land in the TRNC the GCs will be very hard pushed to prove anything, they can always take the TC or Turk to court in the GC courts but what would be the outcome?
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Re: U.K. Couple Should Demolish CY Home, EU Aide Says

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:36 pm

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These two belong in a pig sty not a home! :?
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Postby humanist » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:46 pm

very informative article rafaela thank you. Finally justice has been served and Cypriots all of lingusitic and religious affiliations will benefit by the advise given above.
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Re: U.K. Couple Should Demolish CY Home, EU Aide Says

Postby Jerry » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:51 pm

Get Real! wrote:Image

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These two belong in a pig sty not a home! :?


That's an insult to pigs :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby utu » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:58 pm

with Turkey firmly in control of the north, It's going to be interesting to see how this verdict is going to be enforced...
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:24 am

utu wrote:with Turkey firmly in control of the north, It's going to be interesting to see how this verdict is going to be enforced...

Why? Confiscations/repossessions, etc, could be taking place in the UK…
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