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Top EU legal advisor backs return of Turkish Cyprus property

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Postby AWE » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:20 am

Before everyone gets carried away with this, it was always going to happen as the advice is about enforcing judgement from one EU member in another. Should the ECJ and then the UK court agree with this opinion then it will be possible to sue an EU national for owning disputed property in the North in the South and have this the judgement enforced elsewhere in the EU.

That said as these will be civil writs you will need the name and address of the persons you are suing - that is going to be hard to come by I suspect.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:43 am

AWE wrote:Before everyone gets carried away with this, it was always going to happen as the advice is about enforcing judgement from one EU member in another. Should the ECJ and then the UK court agree with this opinion then it will be possible to sue an EU national for owning disputed property in the North in the South and have this the judgement enforced elsewhere in the EU.

That said as these will be civil writs you will need the name and address of the persons you are suing - that is going to be hard to come by I suspect.

Are we to presume that you too is one of the ...wise investors in the occupied part of Cyprus ( Not my words but those of the British foreign office , the UN and the EU ) , if so congratulations on your triumphant investment !!
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Postby askimwos » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:53 am

Here is another gem from our friend zan who in many occassions denied that he owned GC proprty in the north!


The GC's have theirs sorted. Live in the south for 6 months and you get your property back...YOU CAN'T TOUCH THEM WITH A COURT CASE NOW.

I DEMAND to know what is going to happen with our properties here! WHere is the govt on this?



If i lose this house my family is ruined.
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Postby AWE » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:33 am

miltiades wrote:Are we to presume that you too is one of the ...wise investors in the occupied part of Cyprus ( Not my words but those of the British foreign office , the UN and the EU ) , if so congratulations on your triumphant investment !!


Hi Miltiades,

As you can see I say "Bellapais 1968-" so to date. As my parents were not Cypriot the deeds are foreign owned from then (in fact we were living there in 74), mortgage paid to Bank of Cyprus etc etc.

So this will increase the value of my pre-74 deeds that my family own but not that of land in dispute. :wink:
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Postby Jerry » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:43 am

Here's a thought, if the Court approves this advice and we can enforce in any EU country what will happen if and when Turkey becomes a member?
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Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:48 am

AWE wrote:
miltiades wrote:Are we to presume that you too is one of the ...wise investors in the occupied part of Cyprus ( Not my words but those of the British foreign office , the UN and the EU ) , if so congratulations on your triumphant investment !!


Hi Miltiades,

As you can see I say "Bellapais 1968-" so to date. As my parents were not Cypriot the deeds are foreign owned from then (in fact we were living there in 74), mortgage paid to Bank of Cyprus etc etc.

So this will increase the value of my pre-74 deeds that my family own but not that of land in dispute. :wink:

I understand Sir .
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Postby askimwos » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:54 am

Jerry wrote:Here's a thought, if the Court approves this advice and we can enforce in any EU country what will happen if and when Turkey becomes a member?


will have to enforce the ROC rulings in Turkey itself :shock:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:“Britons in fight for Cyprus home”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7789444.stm


Posted that! Check post number 2 of this thread!
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:37 pm

AWE wrote:
miltiades wrote:Are we to presume that you too is one of the ...wise investors in the occupied part of Cyprus ( Not my words but those of the British foreign office , the UN and the EU ) , if so congratulations on your triumphant investment !!


Hi Miltiades,

As you can see I say "Bellapais 1968-" so to date. As my parents were not Cypriot the deeds are foreign owned from then (in fact we were living there in 74), mortgage paid to Bank of Cyprus etc etc.

So this will increase the value of my pre-74 deeds that my family own but not that of land in dispute. :wink:


I hope there are more people like yourself in the "trnc", who do not compromise your values by possessing stolen property, as well as standing up for what is right.

People such as yourself and Eric Seans, deserve our respect. I think Rose may be another. You are all very brave people. You guys are heroes for standing firm on your morals, and for also speaking out against those that take advantage of stolen GC property.
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Postby AWE » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:19 pm

But watch out for companies doing this:

"Offshore Company

1. Cook Islands Trust - $12,995
2. Nevis LLC - $1495
3. Swiss Offshore Bank Account - $550

Total discounted to $15,040

Many experts agree that the strongest asset protection tool in the world is the asset protection trust formed in the Cook Islands (south of Hawaii). When the judge in the US, for example, demands that the trust funds be brought back to the US and given to your enemy-at-law, the licensed, bonded trustee in the Cook Islands (who is outside of the US judge's jurisdiction) can refuse to comply. This puts you in a position of impossibility to comply with the judge's orders to return the funds. Your money remains safe and secure beyond the reach of the courts.

The Nevis LLC will be 100% owned by your Cook Islands trust. You are the manager of your offshore companies (in this case, the Nevis LLC). You are the signer on the accounts and have complete management control. This places a legal tool inside of the LLC that you can control until the legal duress arises."

Should the court decision follow the legal advice!
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