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[Tim Drayton]

Tim ,
I hope you can find the answer why they changed and why they feel to change their ideas ?
question yourself about AP and promises of the EU and others .
on your next trip to north try to talk with people what they felt after the referendum and asked them what they are feeling about next coming one.
properly it will be in autumn and let us to know . by judging old articles or sayings are nothing now . It is in past . Important what they are planning or what they are thinking now .

Halil, dostum, I am pretty sure in my own mind why they have changed, and it is not for the reasons you have stated.

There is a puppet regime in the north of Cyprus directly controlled by Turkey. The European Court of Human Rights recognises the situation as such and holds Turkey directly responsible for human rights abuses in that part of the island. When you consider that Turkey directly bankrolls the administration in the north to keep it afloat - you yourself were trumpeting a fresh loan granted by Turkey in another recent thread - it is not hard to understand the degree of leverage that Turkey has over that administration and those that hold office in it.

The simple truth is that there has been a shift in the balance of power in Turkey and, with it, a sharp change in Turkey's Cyprus policy. Talat, Soyer and other leading lights in the CTP have no choice but to eat their words and do as Turkey tells them.

Even so, it is astonishing to see the kind of things that Talat was saying only a few years ago. For example:

"Türkiye, bazı gericilerin anavatanı olabilir ve benim anavatanım değil." (19 December 1997-Kıbrıs Gazetesi)
[Turkey may be the motherland of certain backward people, but it is not my motherland]

"Türkiye'nin Kıbrıs'taki varlığı uluslararası hukuka aykırıdır." (19 September 2003-Vatan Gazetesi)
[Turkey's presence in Cyprus is contrary to international law.]

[Oracle]

Cut the political crap, let us get back to the English lesson!

Methinks a full stop, rather than a comma, may have been more suitable above. At the very least, a semi-colon.

[Tim Drayton]

Cut the political crap, let us get back to the English lesson!

Methinks a full stop, rather than a comma, may have been more suitable above. At the very least, a semi-colon.

For once, I find myself in full agreement with you; a comma may not separate two main clauses (note the use of the semi-colon).

[denizaksulu]

Tim ,
I hope you can find the answer why they changed and why they feel to change their ideas ?
question yourself about AP and promises of the EU and others .
on your next trip to north try to talk with people what they felt after the referendum and asked them what they are feeling about next coming one.
properly it will be in autumn and let us to know . by judging old articles or sayings are nothing now . It is in past . Important what they are planning or what they are thinking now .

Halil, dostum, I am pretty sure in my own mind why they have changed, and it is not for the reasons you have stated.

There is a puppet regime in the north of Cyprus directly controlled by Turkey. The European Court of Human Rights recognises the situation as such and holds Turkey directly responsible for human rights abuses in that part of the island. When you consider that Turkey directly bankrolls the administration in the north to keep it afloat - you yourself were trumpeting a fresh loan granted by Turkey in another recent thread - it is not hard to understand the degree of leverage that Turkey has over that administration and those that hold office in it.

The simple truth is that there has been a shift in the balance of power in Turkey and, with it, a sharp change in Turkey's Cyprus policy. Talat, Soyer and other leading lights in the CTP have no choice but to eat their words and do as Turkey tells them.

Even so, it is astonishing to see the kind of things that Talat was saying only a few years ago. For example:

"Türkiye, bazı gericilerin anavatanı olabilir ve benim anavatanım değil." (19 December 1997-Kıbrıs Gazetesi)
[Turkey may be the motherland of certain backward people, but it is not my motherland]

"Türkiye'nin Kıbrıs'taki varlığı uluslararası hukuka aykırıdır." (19 September 2003-Vatan Gazetesi)
[Turkey's presence in Cyprus is contrary to international law.]

I distrust the dazlak even more now. Thanks Tim, for the quotes. I knew Talat 'talk with fork tongue'.

[Tim Drayton]

Tim ,
I hope you can find the answer why they changed and why they feel to change their ideas ?
question yourself about AP and promises of the EU and others .
on your next trip to north try to talk with people what they felt after the referendum and asked them what they are feeling about next coming one.
properly it will be in autumn and let us to know . by judging old articles or sayings are nothing now . It is in past . Important what they are planning or what they are thinking now .

Halil, dostum, I am pretty sure in my own mind why they have changed, and it is not for the reasons you have stated.

There is a puppet regime in the north of Cyprus directly controlled by Turkey. The European Court of Human Rights recognises the situation as such and holds Turkey directly responsible for human rights abuses in that part of the island. When you consider that Turkey directly bankrolls the administration in the north to keep it afloat - you yourself were trumpeting a fresh loan granted by Turkey in another recent thread - it is not hard to understand the degree of leverage that Turkey has over that administration and those that hold office in it.

The simple truth is that there has been a shift in the balance of power in Turkey and, with it, a sharp change in Turkey's Cyprus policy. Talat, Soyer and other leading lights in the CTP have no choice but to eat their words and do as Turkey tells them.

Even so, it is astonishing to see the kind of things that Talat was saying only a few years ago. For example:

"Türkiye, bazı gericilerin anavatanı olabilir ve benim anavatanım değil." (19 December 1997-Kıbrıs Gazetesi)
[Turkey may be the motherland of certain backward people, but it is not my motherland]

"Türkiye'nin Kıbrıs'taki varlığı uluslararası hukuka aykırıdır." (19 September 2003-Vatan Gazetesi)
[Turkey's presence in Cyprus is contrary to international law.]

I distrust the dazlak even more now. Thanks Tim, for the quotes. I knew Talat 'talk with fork tongue'.

Deniz, I think you will find the whole of the following thread interesting - it is the reaction of nationalist mainland Turks to quotes of this nature by Talat, Soyer etc.

http://wowturkey.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 44&start=0

[Paphitis]

May I suggest you take a break from CF.

Keep your suggestions to your self your Greek illiterate clown.

I won't take any notice of the "your" or the missing comma.

What missing comma you goofball? It can be written either joined or separated... “your self” and “yourself” are both correct!

What you’re talking about is “You’re” which is an abbreviation of “You are”!

But you stated this:

Keep your suggestions to your self your Greek illiterate clown.

your self should be yourself

Again... either one is correct!

your - should be you or you're (you are)

Go back to the second "your", and remove the "r". And when you’re done, bugger off, because I'm busy!

Attention to detail, GR! I think you need more English lessons.

BTW, the Turks are kicking your butt!

[utu]

Halil, dostum, I am pretty sure in my own mind why they have changed, and it is not for the reasons you have stated.

There is a puppet regime in the north of Cyprus directly controlled by Turkey. The European Court of Human Rights recognises the situation as such and holds Turkey directly responsible for human rights abuses in that part of the island. When you consider that Turkey directly bankrolls the administration in the north to keep it afloat - you yourself were trumpeting a fresh loan granted by Turkey in another recent thread - it is not hard to understand the degree of leverage that Turkey has over that administration and those that hold office in it.

The simple truth is that there has been a shift in the balance of power in Turkey and, with it, a sharp change in Turkey's Cyprus policy. Talat, Soyer and other leading lights in the CTP have no choice but to eat their words and do as Turkey tells them.

I don't think a number of folk living in the north would care to be reminded of it. After all, if the "strings" were cut, would the "puppet" stay standing? The northern administration's claims to independence really ring hollow because of Turkey's influence there. The sooner they realize it, the better.

[halil]

Halil, dostum, I am pretty sure in my own mind why they have changed, and it is not for the reasons you have stated.

There is a puppet regime in the north of Cyprus directly controlled by Turkey. The European Court of Human Rights recognises the situation as such and holds Turkey directly responsible for human rights abuses in that part of the island. When you consider that Turkey directly bankrolls the administration in the north to keep it afloat - you yourself were trumpeting a fresh loan granted by Turkey in another recent thread - it is not hard to understand the degree of leverage that Turkey has over that administration and those that hold office in it.

The simple truth is that there has been a shift in the balance of power in Turkey and, with it, a sharp change in Turkey's Cyprus policy. Talat, Soyer and other leading lights in the CTP have no choice but to eat their words and do as Turkey tells them.

I don't think a number of folk living in the north would care to be reminded of it. After all, if the "strings" were cut, would the "puppet" stay standing? The northern administration's claims to independence really ring hollow because of Turkey's influence there. The sooner they realize it, the better.

Tim and Utu ,
Majority of the TC's knows what they are doing or what they are after .
they are aware of everything . By reading press or what they are saying here does not show the real ideas . To understand reality or conditions of the people u must live with them and share their ideas with them face to face than u can understand what the people are realising .

politicians always follows the people desires otherwise they looses they are sits and kingdoms .

no one is denying Turkey's influence over us but without people will they can not do anything ..... like in 2003 people are demanded and gates are opened .... like people are looked what is good for them and they said yes to AP . Deep state was there but people are not care .

honestly i am telling i know what the people are thinking in the street because i am always with the people .

what the people are complaining ..... economic problems .... they are aware of it . they are blaming present goverment , people are asking for more income ,more democracy , more investment , new roads , solved electricity problems ....etc...etc..... but one the things are comes crossed with Cyprus problem they always first thinking their security and lots of IF's in it ............ how they can trust the solution formulas .....

[iceman]

I just realized i live on the moon..

[Get Real!]

I just realized i live on the moon..

I'm convinced... how much do you want for it?