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[Byron]

People should fly any flag they wish alongside the Cypriot one. This is a democracy. Govt buildings should only fly the Cypriot and EU flag which is what they currently do anyway.

The Cypriot flag represents the political institutions of the ROC but representation of the seperate communities is reflected by the addition of the motherland countries. This is what the constitution says. If you wish to make proposals to change existing law then a new constitution is required.

Much of the RoC constitution has been rendered invalid by the actions of most of the parties concerned…

1. Greece launched a coup against the government of Cyprus.
2. Turkey invaded and occupied a portion of Cyprus.
3. Britain stood idle failing to prevent the two above.
4. The Turkish Cypriots rejected the whole constitution, abandoned it, and formed an illegal breakaway state on Turkish occupied Cypriot territory.

In fact, the only party to have stuck by the constitution is the Greek Cypriot community while the rest failed miserably. On the basis of all the above I’d like to see any of the above four offenders attempt to take advantage of their “rights” in the RoC while keeping a straight face!

I presume after your outburst you wish for a new constitution, one with just Cypriots running it ? Unfortunately we cannot agree who is a cypriot so we have a problem to start with !

On the contrary, it is VERY clear what constitutes a “Cypriot” just as it is very clear what constitutes a Britton or an American…

He who raises his right hand and swears allegiance to Cyprus and nobody else and honors their oath is a Cypriot, and anyone who cannot bring themselves round to take and honor such an oath is an imposter.

Short, sweet, and simple…

GR! you are talking sense at last, I second the motion.

If it is as simple as you make out why is it that no solution to the CYPRUS PROBLEM has been found ?

Also what is a BRITTON ? - I have never come across that term before.

[miltiades]

A ...Britton surely is someone Britttish !!

[Oracle]

A ...Britton surely is someone Britttish !!

How is the supply of Christmas Sherry holding out?

I think you are getting mixed up with Fern Britton (I'll ignore your triple "t" in British) ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7429561.stm

[Paphitis]

People should fly any flag they wish alongside the Cypriot one. This is a democracy. Govt buildings should only fly the Cypriot and EU flag which is what they currently do anyway.

The Cypriot flag represents the political institutions of the ROC but representation of the seperate communities is reflected by the addition of the motherland countries. This is what the constitution says. If you wish to make proposals to change existing law then a new constitution is required.

Much of the RoC constitution has been rendered invalid by the actions of most of the parties concerned…

1. Greece launched a coup against the government of Cyprus.
2. Turkey invaded and occupied a portion of Cyprus.
3. Britain stood idle failing to prevent the two above.
4. The Turkish Cypriots rejected the whole constitution, abandoned it, and formed an illegal breakaway state on Turkish occupied Cypriot territory.

In fact, the only party to have stuck by the constitution is the Greek Cypriot community while the rest failed miserably. On the basis of all the above I’d like to see any of the above four offenders attempt to take advantage of their “rights” in the RoC while keeping a straight face!

Only one problem with your post.

Greece has no "rights" within the Cypriot constitution, nor does it claim any rights. The only thing Greece is trying to do is support the RoC politically, and by now you should realise that Greece is your only dependable ally. They were responsible for getting Cyprus into the EU, and without this major victory against all odds, Cyprus would still be in the wilderness and with no bargaining power at all.

[CBBB]

A ...Britton surely is someone Britttish !!

How is the supply of Christmas Sherry holding out?

I think you are getting mixed up with Fern Britton (I'll ignore your triple "t" in British) ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7429561.stm

She would be an advantage for us, she could take on the whole occupation force!

[BirKibrisli]

People should fly any flag they wish alongside the Cypriot one. This is a democracy. Govt buildings should only fly the Cypriot and EU flag which is what they currently do anyway.

The Cypriot flag represents the political institutions of the ROC but representation of the seperate communities is reflected by the addition of the motherland countries. This is what the constitution says. If you wish to make proposals to change existing law then a new constitution is required.

Much of the RoC constitution has been rendered invalid by the actions of most of the parties concerned…

1. Greece launched a coup against the government of Cyprus.
2. Turkey invaded and occupied a portion of Cyprus.
3. Britain stood idle failing to prevent the two above.
4. The Turkish Cypriots rejected the whole constitution, abandoned it, and formed an illegal breakaway state on Turkish occupied Cypriot territory.

In fact, the only party to have stuck by the constitution is the Greek Cypriot community while the rest failed miserably. On the basis of all the above I’d like to see any of the above four offenders attempt to take advantage of their “rights” in the RoC while keeping a straight face!

You must be joking,GR!...
Have you forgotten Makarios and his 13 attempted ammendments????

The GCs stuck by the Constitution after they failed to change it,and after the TCs left to go and sulk in their corners...Everybody failed miserably...
If you people do not get this fact in your heads,you will be only pissing against the wind...

[DT.]

People should fly any flag they wish alongside the Cypriot one. This is a democracy. Govt buildings should only fly the Cypriot and EU flag which is what they currently do anyway.

The Cypriot flag represents the political institutions of the ROC but representation of the seperate communities is reflected by the addition of the motherland countries. This is what the constitution says. If you wish to make proposals to change existing law then a new constitution is required.

Much of the RoC constitution has been rendered invalid by the actions of most of the parties concerned…

1. Greece launched a coup against the government of Cyprus.
2. Turkey invaded and occupied a portion of Cyprus.
3. Britain stood idle failing to prevent the two above.
4. The Turkish Cypriots rejected the whole constitution, abandoned it, and formed an illegal breakaway state on Turkish occupied Cypriot territory.

In fact, the only party to have stuck by the constitution is the Greek Cypriot community while the rest failed miserably. On the basis of all the above I’d like to see any of the above four offenders attempt to take advantage of their “rights” in the RoC while keeping a straight face!

You must be joking,GR!...
Have you forgotten Makarios and his 13 attempted ammendments????

The GCs stuck by the Constitution after they failed to change it,and after the TCs left to go and sulk in their corners...Everybody failed miserably...
If you people do not get this fact in your heads,you will be only pissing against the wind...

What do you think would have happened Bir had those amendments not been proposed?

What other options were there to unblock the govt from paralysis? These aren't rhetorical questions, I'm really interested in the alternatives you think Makarios had at the time.

[BirKibrisli]

People should fly any flag they wish alongside the Cypriot one. This is a democracy. Govt buildings should only fly the Cypriot and EU flag which is what they currently do anyway.

The Cypriot flag represents the political institutions of the ROC but representation of the seperate communities is reflected by the addition of the motherland countries. This is what the constitution says. If you wish to make proposals to change existing law then a new constitution is required.

Much of the RoC constitution has been rendered invalid by the actions of most of the parties concerned…

1. Greece launched a coup against the government of Cyprus.
2. Turkey invaded and occupied a portion of Cyprus.
3. Britain stood idle failing to prevent the two above.
4. The Turkish Cypriots rejected the whole constitution, abandoned it, and formed an illegal breakaway state on Turkish occupied Cypriot territory.

In fact, the only party to have stuck by the constitution is the Greek Cypriot community while the rest failed miserably. On the basis of all the above I’d like to see any of the above four offenders attempt to take advantage of their “rights” in the RoC while keeping a straight face!

You must be joking,GR!...
Have you forgotten Makarios and his 13 attempted ammendments????

The GCs stuck by the Constitution after they failed to change it,and after the TCs left to go and sulk in their corners...Everybody failed miserably...
If you people do not get this fact in your heads,you will be only pissing against the wind...

What do you think would have happened Bir had those amendments not been proposed?

What other options were there to unblock the govt from paralysis? These aren't rhetorical questions, I'm really interested in the alternatives you think Makarios had at the time.

DT...what was paralysing the government was the stupid decision to block the Tax collection bill,or whatever it was called...By proposing such wideranging ammendmends Makarios went for overkill...He knew what he was doing...And as you know well Makarios was making plans to change the constitution before his signature had dried on the agreement....A bit of objectivity will go a long way here,mate..Nobody had any intention to stand by the Constitution and nobody did...That is my contention...And I believe I am right...

[iceman]

People should fly any flag they wish alongside the Cypriot one. This is a democracy. Govt buildings should only fly the Cypriot and EU flag which is what they currently do anyway.

The Cypriot flag represents the political institutions of the ROC but representation of the seperate communities is reflected by the addition of the motherland countries. This is what the constitution says. If you wish to make proposals to change existing law then a new constitution is required.

Much of the RoC constitution has been rendered invalid by the actions of most of the parties concerned…

1. Greece launched a coup against the government of Cyprus.
2. Turkey invaded and occupied a portion of Cyprus.
3. Britain stood idle failing to prevent the two above.
4. The Turkish Cypriots rejected the whole constitution, abandoned it, and formed an illegal breakaway state on Turkish occupied Cypriot territory.

In fact, the only party to have stuck by the constitution is the Greek Cypriot community while the rest failed miserably. On the basis of all the above I’d like to see any of the above four offenders attempt to take advantage of their “rights” in the RoC while keeping a straight face!

Only one problem with your post.

Greece has no "rights" within the Cypriot constitution, nor does it claim any rights. The only thing Greece is trying to do is support the RoC politically, and by now you should realise that Greece is your only dependable ally. They were responsible for getting Cyprus into the EU, and without this major victory against all odds, Cyprus would still be in the wilderness and with no bargaining power at all.

Greece is also responsible for getting Cyprus into the shit it is in at the moment..

[Paphitis]

People should fly any flag they wish alongside the Cypriot one. This is a democracy. Govt buildings should only fly the Cypriot and EU flag which is what they currently do anyway.

The Cypriot flag represents the political institutions of the ROC but representation of the seperate communities is reflected by the addition of the motherland countries. This is what the constitution says. If you wish to make proposals to change existing law then a new constitution is required.

Much of the RoC constitution has been rendered invalid by the actions of most of the parties concerned…

1. Greece launched a coup against the government of Cyprus.
2. Turkey invaded and occupied a portion of Cyprus.
3. Britain stood idle failing to prevent the two above.
4. The Turkish Cypriots rejected the whole constitution, abandoned it, and formed an illegal breakaway state on Turkish occupied Cypriot territory.

In fact, the only party to have stuck by the constitution is the Greek Cypriot community while the rest failed miserably. On the basis of all the above I’d like to see any of the above four offenders attempt to take advantage of their “rights” in the RoC while keeping a straight face!

Only one problem with your post.

Greece has no "rights" within the Cypriot constitution, nor does it claim any rights. The only thing Greece is trying to do is support the RoC politically, and by now you should realise that Greece is your only dependable ally. They were responsible for getting Cyprus into the EU, and without this major victory against all odds, Cyprus would still be in the wilderness and with no bargaining power at all.

Greece is also responsible for getting Cyprus into the shit it is in at the moment..

Greece initiated a Coup against The Cyprus Government. This matter was purely an internal GC affair and did not involve or endanger the TC community.

It is however a most convenient excuse used by many Neo Partitionists and Turkey to justify their intervention and continued occupation of Cyprus.

Greece was under the influence of a brutal dictatorship, which was fully supported by Washington. Greece was coerced or tricked into initiating this Coup by Kissinger himself, in order to facilitate Turkey's pre-planned invasion of Cyprus.

How the hell did Turkey manage to gather the logistics to stage such a massive invasion in just 5 days without preparing for many more months beforehand?

The country that is solely responsible for this mess is Turkey. It is Turkey that continues to occupy our ethnically cleansed occupied territory.